Mineral nutrients: is it necesary to mantain an active microbiology?

[veloci]

Hey there. I've just started a new grow and am using a mineral nutrient line this time (Advanced Nutrients tri grow combo).

Because the nutrients I'm giving my plants are already available for the plant to absorb, I've been thinking if it's still necesary to use microbiology suplements and/or mantain an active microbiology in my soil, as no nutrients need to be degraded for plant uptake anymore (as oposed to using organic fertilizers).

I'm talking about mycorhize, good bacteria and fungus. Are they still beneficial to the plant when using mineral nutrients?

Maybe the nutrients present in my substrate are still worth being processed by these despiste the fact I'm feeding mineral nutrients?
If I were to use molasses some time during the grow, would it be smart to have active microbiology then?

Interested in reading what you think about this.

Edit: nutrients name is linked to an Amazon listing automatically somehow, this is no advertisement.

 

[GreenGalaxyFarm]

Because the nutrients I'm giving my plants are already available for the plant to absorb, I've been thinking if it's still necesary to use microbiology suplements and/or mantain an active microbiology in my soil, as no nutrients need to be degraded for plant uptake anymore (as oposed to using organic fertilizers).

Like you mentioned, they are in a form that is available for uptake. Microbes are chemical decomposers so you dont need them. Through the process of osmosis microbes literally get sucked dry due to the salt content of such a feeding schedule so i cannot see any benefit to feeding sugars. Others might disagree

 

[Shaded_One]

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idk but this shit is super popular with hydro growers

 

[freezeland2]

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idk but this shit is super popular with hydro growers

I use that in soil grows. Along with King Crab and great white.

 

[Lockebox]

I believe microbes are beneficial in all growing systems!
True in a synthetic system the nutrients are already plant available and don't need to broken down further, but that's not all microbes do!
Having a healthy and diverse microbiology will outcompete pathogenic and other bacterial/ fungal guests you don't want.
Not to mention the benefits microbes have when it comes to everyday stress such as temp or watering habits.
I don't know much but I do believe the plant will adapt to and work with microbiology regardless of the system.

I believe it was Guru from the DGC who said something about the cation exchange between synthetic nutrients and microbiology. If I understand correctly, the microbes will attach to and hold on to synthetic nutrients instead of them being leached from the medium like a traditional example.

If you have microbes, do it.
If you don't have microbes, screw it

 

[GreenGalaxyFarm]

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Orca is a liquid mycorrhizae product concentrated with a diverse mix of mycorrhizae & beneficial bacteria is designed to be watered in or run through hydroponic or irrigation systems. Buy now!

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idk but this shit is super popular with hydro growers

it is the buildup of salts that kill off the bacteria by osmosis as i understand, if your hydro system has salt build up they will die and you will need to get cleaning..

 

[Shaded_One]

it is the buildup of salts that kill off the bacteria by osmosis as i understand, if your hydro system has salt build up they will die and you will need to get cleaning..

this product is designed and sold for hydro systems, not sure why you are so argumentative

 

[GreenGalaxyFarm]

this product is designed and sold for hydro systems, not sure why you are so argumentative

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yes and i said salt build up will lead to their death amongst other issues
nowhere have i said it wont work in a clean system

 

[Shaded_One]

yes and i said salt build up will lead to their death amongst other issues
nowhere have i said it wont work in a clean system

and the sky is blue, thank you

 

[veloci]

How do you prevent salt buildup in a soil grow? Should I just use water every now and then to wash out some of them?

 

[GreenGalaxyFarm]

How do you prevent salt buildup in a soil grow?

by using organic liquid or dry soil amendments

 

[steamroller]

Moe is doing research on bacteria for us all.

Fogponics. As good or better than Hydro?

This thread has just become a journal at this point, and I'm making it up as I go. Some of this will seem disjointed. But I have several projects happening simultaneously so it's all getting dumped here. Microbes: So the petri dishes in post 643 are going to confirm what, if anything, grows...

www.thcfarmer.com

^^Link^^ gets you on THIS topic.

 

[Lockebox]

How do you prevent salt buildup in a soil grow? Should I just use water every now and then to wash out some of them?

If you're synthetic, you can feed on a schedule like: water, nutes, water, nutes or something similar. And always water until about 15% to 20% runoff to help washout the salts

 

[veloci]

Thanks. I suppose it won't do any harm to try some fungus and bacteria suplements. Any general recommendations?

 

[steamroller]

Thanks. I suppose it won't do any harm to try some fungus and bacteria suplements. Any general recommendations?

Moes initial results show more 'activity' in the Orca culture.
I would try Orca if available to you.