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More Evidence Proving 'Dubbya' was 'Worst President Ever!'

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Mendel, I think your assessment is mostly right, especially your big picture conclusions. That we differ in the details should not stop us from trying to figure out how to deal with a world quickly driving itself off EVERY cliff it can find, from natural resource depletion, environmental destruction, monetary shenanigans and overpopulation to war for cash, corporate led fascism and the setting of people against one another to neutralize their influence, a la American politics.

So the question becomes, now what?!
 
I can fix a bunch of stuff. Stop sending food to nations who wont/cant feed themselves, just hold out their hand.

They are the least productive, there is no reason I can think of to let them be over reproductive. I just solved food shortages and over population, whats next.
 
It sounds like you all got the golden pacifier ripped outta your mouth by the president as some point.

People's greed cause this trouble. Whether it started higher up or not we were the ones refinancing our houses at and on our own dime. Just cause they let us, just because we could have doesn't mean we should have. Nobody else's fault. Us collectively have been purchasing from Walmart, shutting down America, yet we think some dude making half a percent of what executives and CEOs make will actually have a difference. He's a puppet.

Furthermore, think like a HUMAN on EARTH and how good Americans have it regardless if you like who is in office. Cry and bitch about your measly tax. Go to brazil for a year and survive, then come back here. I promise you will be BEGGING for 20% tax, and all the bullshit you "hated" just cause your too ignorant to realize how good it is in America.

99.9% of houses in America have running water. Enough fucking said open your eyes on life and the real good things. When's the last time you were concerned about having enough food for winter???????? Anyone???????

Shit still happens across the globe. You can bitch about how much better it can be, but that's all on you. Life is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel. Make your life better, and I guarantee you it can be wayyyyyyy fucking worse. Hell and I only spent years in Mexican/Latino countries, I could only imagine the extreme poverty elsewhere.


Yet you guys cry your fuckin BMW payment isn't affordable anymore. Anyone with a smart mind can easily afford an provide for a family still.

If you have no financial experience I suggest reading rich dad, poor dad.

Have a great Sunday in this great beautiful country, fuck the politics and live your life. Or be self centered thinking Americans are all of humans just so we can complain about how much shit we don't get for free or cheap anymore.
 
I can fix a bunch of stuff. Stop sending food to nations who wont/cant feed themselves, just hold out their hand.

They are the least productive, there is no reason I can think of to let them be over reproductive. I just solved food shortages and over population, whats next.
That is so disgusting. Lets only focus on the white Europeans thats couldn't handle their own country, raped pillaged and murdered for this soiled land, just to not help any other humans!!!! Wtf?!?!? We are all here in earth. If you lived in a desert you can grow rice dude.

I seriously wish you could be on the other side of that ball expecting shit to have some ignorant dude saying he isn't going to help you survive and live by some measly bags of food. Would you expect the same in return??? Where do you get your food? Cause I'm damn near sure youre not self sustainable, what if they told you no food just cause they had an attitude like you???

No disrespect but that is being a terrible human being IMO, but we are all here for different reasons and raised differently.

Thank god I knew to appreciate ALL life.

Furthermore 66% of Americans slap out their hand out to the government at least once a year for something just like the other countries you cry about , so lets stop w us too??
 
Mendel, I think your assessment is mostly right, especially your big picture conclusions. That we differ in the details should not stop us from trying to figure out how to deal with a world quickly driving itself off EVERY cliff it can find, from natural resource depletion, environmental destruction, monetary shenanigans and overpopulation to war for cash, corporate led fascism and the setting of people against one another to neutralize their influence, a la American politics.

So the question becomes, now what?!
Think about how much this little picture could change if people took it to heart
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Think about how much this little picture could change if people took it to heart
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Not sure I agreed with much of what you said above, but it may be a lack of shared terms and culture that's to blame. On the other hand, that one picture does a pretty good job of describing the current state of affairs in the Civilized World (sic).
 
I mean I could take 20 quotes out of fight club that fit perfectly, but ultimately I just guess my opinion is either you are fully materialistic or you want more money than you need in this life to feel the way you do. Of course we need to be assertive and take precursor actions to ensure more fuck ups will be made, but on the whole I feel it's not too bad, just don't lose sense of what life is. It's not fame dollars and fortune for me. Maybe for you, but I have a >3k a month job and I'm doing fine, an saving money. I'm not in any apartment either lol. It's just all how and what you do with yourself.... But Blum the president on our bad purchases and decisions isnt right, and just because a million people all made te shitty decision to take out double property value refi's cause you had an 800 bullet score and could have, we should just sweep that all under the rug?? We blew the balloon full of air, its the only legitimate response to our actions. We don't live in candyland.

"Don't gain the world and lose your soul, life is worth much more than silver or gold" bob

Chicken man should be the lifestyle I want to end up like, being able to sustain life for my family, very very few people could do that. That imo should bring way more respect than any eyeball debt in the garage per on paper.
Curious to see what a man with his lifestyle thinks... I would think his matters are strictly opinions. Obama isn't cutting back his chickens
 
If it was just us that would be a viable approach. Sadly, it is not, and part of being a citizen is standing up TO our government to make it work FOR us, instead of for someone else. I don't see enough citizens doing that. Occupy Wall Street tried, but people didn't get involved. It fizzled not because there was no need or support, but because of apathy.

You can pay your bills and the country can still crash- whether it's your fault or not, you'll be going down, too. We are all on the same ship- let's get to stopping those people who are busy shooting holes in it!
 
But so with that said, what are you all actively doing other than talking about it?
I'm not saying you're not ttystikk I have a ton of respect for you. But if that's how it is...

It's like watching a faucet running and everyone standing around saying we should do something about it. It's all talk, who's going to shut up and shut off the water so to speak??
 
First, I'm involved with the political process, mostly at the local level where I have some chance of being heard. Second, I talk to anyone who will hold still long enough! Third, I'm still looking out for #1; my child and the future she will inherit from us. It is not enough, but it's a start.
 
I mean I could take 20 quotes out of fight club that fit perfectly, but ultimately I just guess my opinion is either you are fully materialistic or you want more money than you need in this life to feel the way you do. Of course we need to be assertive and take precursor actions to ensure more fuck ups will be made, but on the whole I feel it's not too bad, just don't lose sense of what life is. It's not fame dollars and fortune for me. Maybe for you, but I have a >3k a month job and I'm doing fine, an saving money. I'm not in any apartment either lol. It's just all how and what you do with yourself.... But Blum the president on our bad purchases and decisions isnt right, and just because a million people all made te shitty decision to take out double property value refi's cause you had an 800 bullet score and could have, we should just sweep that all under the rug?? We blew the balloon full of air, its the only legitimate response to our actions. We don't live in candyland.

"Don't gain the world and lose your soul, life is worth much more than silver or gold" bob

Chicken man should be the lifestyle I want to end up like, being able to sustain life for my family, very very few people could do that. That imo should bring way more respect than any eyeball debt in the garage per on paper.
Curious to see what a man with his lifestyle thinks... I would think his matters are strictly opinions. Obama isn't cutting back his chickens
We do as much as we can to be self sustaining, still am not off grid, probably never will be, but we do what we can to nourish ourselves with home produce as much as we can....
 
And there ya have it folks. Mendel nails it. (the only thing I would add is the importance of opium as well. But in general it's all about MONEY, OIL AND OPIUM.


More importantly though.....what is the solution? Before we can fix things, we the people need to understand, accept and admit what the REAL problem is. That's the first step. Then we can get to work. :)

The reason for the iraq war was because saddan hussein decided to sell oil for something other than the petro-dollar. plain and simple, the rest is smoke and mirrors. When saddam was a youngster he was imprisoned for trying to assasinate the president of iraq. he spent many yrs in the can, he worked for the CIA. When the govt was overthrown there like in Iran (remember they executed democratically elected mossadegh on iranian TV), saddam was #1 boy in the eyes of the US govt and was installed. Later on he got pissed off and decided to break the golden rule and shove 1 up the us' ass by selling oil for euros. This is covered extensively in writtings by John Perkins.

The reason the Us attacked Libya was becuase quadaffi decided to sell oil for something other than USD, and to top it off the fucker got together with the other african leaders (they have some congress type thing going like a league of nations), they decided theyd been fucked by the developed western world enough. Their idea was to create a gold based african dinar system, and to only sell the resources of africa in this currency. The UN replied by flying in a bunch of taliban and al queda fighters from other theaters and deposing, then rifle ass fucking and killing maumar. the supposed, sometimes enemy, mulsim fundamentalists hated quadaffi becuase he was a liberal muslim and didnt believe in all that hardcore jihad crap, he was a big enemy of taliban and alqueda and would shoot the fuckers whenever he found them. These islamist mercenaries gladly did the dirty work. There is an interview done by RT of a libyan guerilla commander (yemeni) bragging he had killed americans and would do so again. he was flown into libya on a US transport plane. How fucked up is that shit.

Some of the same insurgents in Syria from that little depositione were flown to southern turkey by the UN, and went into syria to get that show kicked off. These fucking terrorists by and large were created by the very countries who 'fight' them. terrorist is a subjective word, it depends on which side you ask, but for sure many innocent people are killed or worse in these fatal bullshit banker wars. many developed out of the muslim brotherhood which was created in eqyt between wwi and wwii by the us and british govts to destabilize the region.......suez canal....;)

It seems to me that the bankers and military industrial complex, fucking energy companies, wacko religionists, w varying motives are keeping us in a perpetual state of war for their varied gains.

We need to hang all those mutherfuckers who are enemies of our countries, humanity and everything that is good in the world. I do not hold my breath for somthing like that however when John corzine, adviser to the whitehouse, can steal 2 bill of funds from mf global customer accts that were supposed to be segregated. the fuck was called to a senate hearing on his theft and told them to fuck off, I dont remeber ala ronnie raygun.....they lined up to suck his sack. he used to be the tresury secretary for fuck same, his name is on some of the bills in you wallet.

There is no rule of law in america or the world, if there were, he and many other fucking pigs would be swinging from tall trees. Rich people rule this motherfuker, and if you get out of line they will kill you. When you do not put into their system you are useless. They will send you kids to war to fight and die for their fucking checkbooks. They will steal all your shit when they have gambled theirs away.

Both of the 'parties' are as an irishman once told me, two cheeks of the same ass. washington is run by lobbyists, congreesmen are money junkies addicted to a buck.

I suppose when the oligarchs have destroyed the rest of the world and turn inward in a last ditch effort to steal and kill whats left to get another last hit of liquidity we will kill them all and make a big pile of bodies and have a bonfire. the bullshit that has been done to others all over the world in the name of 'democracy' and 'nation building' well come home to roost, and who better to tell them to fuck off, than a bunch of americans.

democrat, republican, bullfuck, its you against the state. On a brighter note, it seems that in the end (no not always when you want it too) good always wins.

That is the truth nearly as I can tell at least, and I think im mostly right.
 
Its funny because at least bush didnt shit all over our constitution like osama has. I mean obama.

Obama is hands down the worst president thats ever scammed his way into office. He is turning the country against itself. And soon things will get real bad..

But hey hes cool because he surrounds himself with rap artists and black actors right? Please. This country has gone to shit and our president is making things 100 times worse. But i guess its ok for our president to shit on our constitution and make our country how he sees fit. Forget about americans rights, lets just build hundreds of prisons across the country and call everyone terrorists so we can have full power over the sheeple.

If u study history. Obama is following the same steps hitler followed to create his reign.


O.k. lets deal with this a little bit. First a little history lesson. When Adolf Hitler entered Germany it was post ww1 and the economy had collapsed due to war reparations paid to europe and that caused extreme poverty and a climate that was perfect for an influential leader to rule. Germany allowed Hitler to stay in power for well over the period of time that our constitution would ever allow Obama could ever stay in power. War torn and desperate Germany was ripe for a zealous and destructive leader that KILLED millions of Jewish people in his own country. There is no logical argument that Obama has done anything like this, to try to equate the two diminishes the truth of Hitler and Germany as well as the atrocity that the Jewish people and much of Europe was subjected to because of such an asshole as Hitler.

The United States has never been war torn or lost a major battle that the rest of the world would force us to economic collapse by paying back the damage done (not saying many countries wouldn't love it but it has never happened.). We have a strong constitution in place and part of our working democracy comes from peaceful power changes, i.e. when Obama was first elected President Bush was there and willingly gave over the presidency.....no military coup required as you would see in Latin America or other countries that don't have legitimate democracies. President Obama will be done in office in 3 short years and how many American has he killed? Seriously? I would argue that even Clinton killed more Americans (minus war casualties) as he (clinton) had over 50 ex business partners killed.

I would like to know if you have any sort of facts to back up your statement: " Obama is following the same steps hitler followed to create his reign." Do you think that in the next 3 years there will be a constitutional amendment in the next 3 years that will allow Obama to stay passed two terms? I am sure you know that would take a majority of congress to agree on that amendment and they can't even agree on what type of beer to drink at the moment.

And Bush? Well I could spend hours on how much of a worse president but lets just deal with these little tidbits for you: Bush failed at his job on 9/11 as we were attacked on our homeland and Bush did not adequately protect us from the obvious threats that existed, he started a war with Iraq under false pretenses and continually changed his justifications/reasons for war, destroyed our economy from within and had a vice president that directly profited from our wars with Halliburton deals, Bush's horrible response to Hurricane Katrina caused the loss of many lives that did not need to happen, he tried to privatize social security, attempted to sell the security of our U.S. ports to a subcontractor out of the United Arab Emirates. I could go on for days.

Lastly, its easy to be jaded by politics, shit even most politicians are too. There must be a balance as to what conspiracies exist and don't, in other words not everything is a conspiracy and there are many differences between the presidents it just takes looking under the surface. Of course there will be common threads amongst all presidents as well simply by the job that they are taking, as that job has many of the same requirements regardless of who is in office.
 
More importantly though.....what is the solution? Before we can fix things, we the people need to understand, accept and admit what the REAL problem is. That's the first step. Then we can get to work. :)
Here's the issue and it's spelled out so painfully clear in this thread and others like it, and that is...
"They" (TPTB) want us polarized. They want us "pointing fingers" at one another. They want us divided, because the minute "we" present a "united front", the minute "We The People" show solidarity..."they're" in trouble. If we were all to come together and saw collectively that we need to effect a change in government, they'd be out either peacefully or through rebellion, they'd be ousted. "We" are also too comfortable to even want to do anything about it. As long as we have our "Dancing With The Stars" and our reality shows, and processed foods, we'll sit on our asses and do what we're told.
Things only happen once it starts..."hurting".
 
It sounds like you all got the golden pacifier ripped outta your mouth by the president as some point.

People's greed cause this trouble. Whether it started higher up or not we were the ones refinancing our houses at and on our own dime. Just cause they let us, just because we could have doesn't mean we should have. Nobody else's fault. Us collectively have been purchasing from Walmart, shutting down America, yet we think some dude making half a percent of what executives and CEOs make will actually have a difference. He's a puppet.

Furthermore, think like a HUMAN on EARTH and how good Americans have it regardless if you like who is in office. Cry and bitch about your measly tax. Go to brazil for a year and survive, then come back here. I promise you will be BEGGING for 20% tax, and all the bullshit you "hated" just cause your too ignorant to realize how good it is in America.

99.9% of houses in America have running water. Enough fucking said open your eyes on life and the real good things. When's the last time you were concerned about having enough food for winter???????? Anyone???????

Shit still happens across the globe. You can bitch about how much better it can be, but that's all on you. Life is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel. Make your life better, and I guarantee you it can be wayyyyyyy fucking worse. Hell and I only spent years in Mexican/Latino countries, I could only imagine the extreme poverty elsewhere.

Yet you guys cry your fuckin BMW payment isn't affordable anymore. Anyone with a smart mind can easily afford an provide for a family still.

If you have no financial experience I suggest reading rich dad, poor dad.

Have a great Sunday in this great beautiful country, fuck the politics and live your life. Or be self centered thinking Americans are all of humans just so we can complain about how much shit we don't get for free or cheap anymore.

Can't live your life through Fight Club...
When I work day in and day out only to see the majority of my income going to Federal programs consisting of roughly 12 million unemployed and 47.7 million on food stamps it's fucking irritating. Yes, it's easy to light up a joint and brush it off but when the amount taken from my check is continual increasing, at some point you need to say enough is enough.

Yes, we have it WAY better then allot of other places and we are fortunate to live here but if we're at the point of having to compare ourselves to Brazil there's a huge fucking problem.
 
democrat, republican, bullfuck, its you against the state. On a brighter note, it seems that in the end (no not always when you want it too) good always wins.

Your entire post, exemplifies the exact reason that I have so much respect, for you Mendel. The good might never actually win, though. Let's fucking face it. Even a cannabis forum can't come together. I can only hope that we go the way of the dinosaurs. At least most of us. Overpopulation, of mindless fucking sheeple. Public enemy number one. Positive vibes...

~nugzz
 
I'm gonna give you gives a perfect example regarding how the media is manipulating us...

I often like to listen to NPR, Limbaugh, a few others just to see what "they're" up to. Anyway, Limbaugh a few weeks ago was going on a tear about those "damn, dirty liberals"...And he's going on and on about how the liberals HATE conservatives, about how liberals HATE the Constitution, about how liberals HATE freedom...He was really working his audience into a feeding frenzy and it bore itself out in the callers who called in to express their HATRED toward liberals.

Hate...Such an effective weapon to use in whipping the masses into line. I believe Hitler used the same tactics when he set out on a campaign to rid the world of Jews.
 
You're god damn right they speak in a hateful tone, they HATE what Liberals are doing to this country. Example, the laws passed in New York outlawing specific size cups you can order your beverages in and adding an additional tax on candy. It's Dictatorship at it's finest with the Democrats spear-heading it.

Any form of manipulation can be compared to Hitler...
 
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