MPB's are takin over. Bossman converting.

[Lost]

Alright guys I got a couple garden related issues I could use some asistance on.
So I fired up all my light's and let them run for a couple days.
And on the 3rd night the outside temps dropped below 60 degrees and the outside unit freezed up. It is a brand new 2.5 ton split. But in the manual it says the outside unit should not be run in under 60 degrees. So I know there is some thing I can have the HVAC guy do to make it ok to run in cold temps. But those guys are really freaken expensive. I had them just run the copper lines vacuum them and it took 2 hrs but cost me 500$. So If they are bringing the parts and doing an upgrade I am assuming it is not going to be cheap. It is probably what I will end up doing. Figured some input is always best.

The next ? is how are you guys controlling the split AC day night\ temp none of the control boxes I have found work on 40 amp.

Im no help here. I have never turned off my unit since I turned it on and I don't plan on turning it off, lol. Since its got the inverter it just plods along..

What happened after it froze up, does it still work fine or did it burn out the compressor motor?

 

[BOSSMAN88188]

It shuts itself down when it freezes over. But I dont want to move the girls in there.
Till I get it fixed. The AC is off till monday. So I guess I am waiting.

 

[mcattak]

As far as turning the a/c off/on I never have...On all the time...Get a thermostat that you can set day and night time temps...Lesson learned make sure the outside condensing unit can run at low temps...

Found this on google maybe it will help...

To modify a system to operate in cold weather or if you like the house really cold like below 70 degrees you must add the following to your unit which you should have any way. Low pressure cut out CO=40psi and CI=80psi, anti restart timer 3-5 minuites, High pressure cut out manual reset, crank-case heater if a recipricating compressor, expansion valve AND sight glass (see below), head pressure controller if you are going to operate the system when it is cold outside. If you make all these modifications then you can run your system continuously with out hurting anything. note: no ice will form on the coil and you will have to make sure the system is properly charged. But if you want the house to be a "meat locker" because you sleep during the day or have health problems then add the above items and "freeze your self out". A larger coil (see below) will make a huge difference too.

 

[BOSSMAN88188]

I have the HVAC guy coming on monday to give me a qoute.
None of the day nught thermostats run 40 amps.
Much thanx Mcattak

 

[jack the reaper]

Alright guys I got a couple garden related issues I could use some asistance on.
So I fired up all my light's and let them run for a couple days.
And on the 3rd night the outside temps dropped below 60 degrees and the outside unit freezed up. It is a brand new 2.5 ton split. But in the manual it says the outside unit should not be run in under 60 degrees. So I know there is some thing I can have the HVAC guy do to make it ok to run in cold temps. But those guys are really freaken expensive. I had them just run the copper lines vacuum them and it took 2 hrs but cost me 500$. So If they are bringing the parts and doing an upgrade I am assuming it is not going to be cheap. It is probably what I will end up doing. Figured some input is always best.

The next ? is how are you guys controlling the split AC day night\ temp none of the control boxes I have found work on 40 amp.

sup bossman?!
cant help ya with the split, i went ghetto-tech with the A/C.
i got this for ya though. dont mess with mechanical here, get the digital.
http://www.amazon.com/Sylvania-SA315-240-Volt-Double-Pole-Industrial/dp/B000KKHQFW/ref=pd_cp_hi_3

 

[Lost]

Would something like this work?

 

[mcattak]

I have the HVAC guy coming on monday to give me a qoute.
None of the day nught thermostats run 40 amps.
Much thanx Mcattak

Dont get it why does the thermostat need to run 40 amp...My thermostat is hooked up to my air handler..My ac is on all day and night...Please explain why yours is different...

 

[BOSSMAN88188]

sup bossman?!
cant help ya with the split, i went ghetto-tech with the A/C.
i got this for ya though. dont mess with mechanical here, get the digital.
http://www.amazon.com/Sylvania-SA315-240-Volt-Double-Pole-Industrial/dp/B000KKHQFW/ref=pd_cp_hi_3

Would something like this work?

Thanx bro's. I cant figure out how those timer's would be able to tell the AC to be 78 degrees for 12 hrs then 65 degrees for 12 hrs.
I am fully medicated though so I could be missing something.

Dont get it why does the thermostat need to run 40 amp...My thermostat is hooked up to my air handler..My ac is on all day and night...Please explain why yours is different...

All the day \night temp controllers I have seen the power source to the AC go into the unit and it controls what times it needs what temp's.
Is there a way to use the control wires going from the head to the outdoor unit for the day\night controller.
If so I am stoked that would solve an issue.

Thanks again all you cool ass peeps.

 

[mcattak]

My thermostat goes directly into the handler which is in the room...The handler has another wire that goes from it to the condensing unit...Unit is on all the time and my thermostat determines what the temps are...

If I understand your question I don't think the thermostat can be hooked to the outside unit...

I must admit i am still confused and hopefully your HVAC guy can help..

 

[Lost]

Bossman - I guess what I ment was could you use a timer like that to cover the 12 on 12 off issue, then use the a/c thermostat, but its not like its going to ever go into fan made, it gets hot and your a/c will be working pretty hard. Hope you get it sorted, those a/c guys are expensive. We need to find one that's medical and will work for nugs, lol.

 

[LordDankinstien]

Maybe try building a plywood box to cover it at night when its cold. Im and hung over from last night so that idea might be dumb but it also might work. It would need some venting Im sure but I think the heat in there would build up to at leaste 60 degrees.

 

[BOSSMAN88188]

Thanx lord.
I have the same idea. I am thinking I have a window mount 2 tom.
That is old and not being used. I an thinking I will gut that. Take all the vented sheet metal from it. Build a box around the out door unit with it.
Then put a small heater in there on a thermostat set to come on at 65 degrees.
But just to be sure it does not some how make my system fail in the middle of a grow.
I have the HVAC guy that installed my lines and bled the system coming back at 2pm today.
So I will see what he says and run the idea by him.
I have also found some articles saying that freezing up in cold weather can be due to too much refridgerent. So I just hope he does not rape my wallet.

 

[Lost]

Bossman - I think that you will need to run the a/c even during the dark period now that I think about it. I run mine 24/7 because of the humidity. At night the humidity skyrockets and with huge plants in a confined space the moisture level.

I would imagine with your carp skills you could make a cover outta ply with some holes in it.

 

[BOSSMAN88188]

Exactly what I am planning. I just want to have the HVAC guy's double check that it is not something bigger starting. I am super worried about being in the middle of the grow and have my AC die. I have just about busted the bank on the build.
But if he say alls good I will build a box from vented sheet metal. Then run a heater in there hooked to thermostat to only come on when temps drop.

My purple Kushes are so wanting to meet there new home.
I will make a vid of the ceremony to share with every one.

 

[Shady]

Sending some good karma your way Bossman! I'm looking forward to some cool tree shots... :cool

 

[mcattak]

HVAC guy have good news

 

[BOSSMAN88188]

It cost me 300$
It had low pressure on the return line. And a little low on the R22.
Witch hw had topped off last time. But the systems lines were not pre charged as asvertised. So he said there mey be a small leak. But he does not think so.
Also it is missing a sensor that goes on the air handler where the air is pulled in from the top. I am contacting the manufacturer to get one sent out. I have had the system running with lights on. So if alls good tommorow the girls will met there new home.

And court thursday. Thanks again for all positivity. You guys are the bomb.

 

[doubleds]

Alright guys I got a couple garden related issues I could use some asistance on.
So I fired up all my light's and let them run for a couple days.
And on the 3rd night the outside temps dropped below 60 degrees and the outside unit freezed up. It is a brand new 2.5 ton split. But in the manual it says the outside unit should not be run in under 60 degrees. So I know there is some thing I can have the HVAC guy do to make it ok to run in cold temps. But those guys are really freaken expensive. I had them just run the copper lines vacuum them and it took 2 hrs but cost me 500$. So If they are bringing the parts and doing an upgrade I am assuming it is not going to be cheap. It is probably what I will end up doing. Figured some input is always best.

The next ? is how are you guys controlling the split AC day night\ temp none of the control boxes I have found work on 40 amp.

It sounds to me that you need a cold weather package installed bro. This is why i highly reccomend friedrich model mini splits. They run to 0 degrees (us) minus 18 degrees (canada). This whole winter they never shut off once and last year i had 4 days in a row it was -25. My emergency exhaust and intake kik on and run the room when the a/c fails and if it still gets to hot i havea high temp shutoff that will kill half the lights.

I am not sure the name of the "cold weather package" but what it does is slows down the outside fan or stops it once and a while when necessary.

Hope this helps

dds

 

[BOSSMAN88188]

It sounds to me that you need a cold weather package installed bro. This is why i highly reccomend friedrich model mini splits. They run to 0 degrees (us) minus 18 degrees (canada). This whole winter they never shut off once and last year i had 4 days in a row it was -25. My emergency exhaust and intake kik on and run the room when the a/c fails and if it still gets to hot i havea high temp shutoff that will kill half the lights.

I am not sure the name of the "cold weather package" but what it does is slows down the outside fan or stops it once and a while when necessary.

Hope this helps


dds

Thanks DD,
Lesson learned. I did not think I went cheap, 1500$ for a 2.5 ton. But I know now that is cheap. So after 800$ in HVAC between install and repair.
This unit says it runs from 14 degrees F to 130 F.
The 130 may be wrong as I am medicated but the 14 I have read and reread.
If all goes to plan I pick up dehuey today and will make a vid if the girls going in.


Man the support on this site from all you guy's is frickin amazing.

 

[BOSSMAN88188]

Pics.
So the Purple kushes.
Are doing incredible. I have followed DD's feeding exactly with no variation.
I did not get root pics because It felt unsafe by myself. I should have some to help out in a bit with some root porn.
But let me say DAMN!!!! they are mostly along the sides I would say 80% of the root mass is on the sides.

It is hard to tell in the pics. But that is a 1000 watt 7 inches from them. And I tilt it when not working so it is aimed straight at them 4.
I am aiming for as little lumen shock as possible.

Do you guy's think since I am using RO water I should supliment with some Cal\mag. Honestly I dont like to use much Cal\mag if any.