MPB's are takin over. Bossman converting.

LeroyBrown · Mar 27, 2010

Pulling up a chair. blow em up Bossman

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 28, 2010

mrdizzle said:
Im liking the 5 light set up,, thanks for the video

Thanks dizzle,
I am hoping to have the new A\C ANd ballast to up it to 6 plant's.

doubleds said:
yo bossman, you blew it the fook up bro!!

2 things, raise those wall mount fans up and get all your nute bottles out of the room bro. Those white bottles let the light through.

dds

Thanx DD's.
#1 nutes. Done. I wrapped the shelf in panda paper.
I am going to put a small fridge in the garage for nute's when I thin out the line up.
I will get the fans raised ASAP.
Do you think they need to be raised for when they get bigger or for the entire time. I was planning on adding a anothe set of brackets to the wall to raise them when they are big. Or is that a waste and just leave them up higher alway's. You're input is alway's needed.

smkultra said:
nice fired u[]D mpb setup bossman.!! congrats . do you plan on pulling 5 pounds off those four purple kush clones?? thats what strain your running right?

Thanx bro,
I am shooting for 1.5 per girl.
But will be happy with 1 per. My first run with this setup so I am keeping my expectations low.
But at the same time with all the peep's in here helping I will not be shocked if I hit 2 per.

LeroyBrown said:
Pulling up a chair. blow em up Bossman

Thanx leroy,
Everytime I see you're post.
I start singing.
[youtube]Ooq3JbWbdjk[/youtube]

mrdizzle · Mar 28, 2010

I think you can get a big yeild out of that room, but dont flip them too small and make sure you have some roots swimming before you do and youll be gravy

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 28, 2010

I think I may need help!!!!!!!!

So this is what is goin on.
They perk up for about 8 hrs a day give or take.
But they are not growing much or at all really.
And copper patches showing up.

My system holds a total of 130 gallon's. I filled with RO water. Then added.
5 cups each Sensi A & B.
1 cup Multizym
1 cup Algen.
1\2 cup Root excelerater (I will join the H&G boycott as these bottles epmty we gotta support each other).
PPM 1200, PH 5.8.
They had been getting 950 in the veg room.
The PH drifts to 6. And I readjust it.
This I stopped doing today and just left it at 6.
So today I drained about 20 gallons from the system and topped it off with RO water . And 1 cup of Cal\Mag.
When I was done the PPM 1150 and PH 6.0.
The rez temps are holding very well at 65.
The room gets 80 max during light on.
It is sealed with Co2. Humidity reads 35.
The rockwool is staying nice and wet with the dripper on 24 hrs.

Am I just dorkin out and it is a small cal\mag dif. Along with some lumen shock?:mysterymachine:

TIA

LeroyBrown · Mar 28, 2010

BOSSMAN88188 said:
Thanx leroy,
Everytime I see you're post.
I start singing.
[youtube]Ooq3JbWbdjk[/youtube]

You and me both my friend lol....

Shady · Mar 28, 2010

First, great idea on the mini fridge for nutes BOSSMAN! I've got an empty one that would be perfect for my room... :cool

Second, did you add CalMag with your initial res change of the original mix as it wasn't listed until you topped off? I'd recommend 4 to 5 ml/gal if your base nutes are low in their Ca and Mg. I'd also wonder how the airstones are doing in that particular tub as well as the water level. :wondering I'm assuming the rest of the plants are healthy...

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 28, 2010

I did not add cal\mag in the original fill.
DD's feeding does not call for it. But all plants differ and these look like they need some more.It is a little more on that one plant.
But they all are showing the same issues. I checked all the airstones and drip feed and all is working well.

Shady · Mar 28, 2010

Hmmm, I'm no expert at DD's mix so I'll defer to the other MPB'ers on this one... Good news that the system water levels and airstones are on point. Seems like this strain needs something diff in the mix... :thinking

mcattak · Mar 28, 2010

Sry Boss for asking again...How are those water temps...Maybe check them in the buckets too..

Lost · Mar 28, 2010

Bossman, nute levels are too high bro! Back that shit down to 1000 and keep us posted!! Also check on your roots, make sure its all good. I got time this week if you want to get together.

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 28, 2010

I will do that in about ten minute's.
Thanks bro.
I will PM you. I think this weak will be good time to hook up.

Lost · Mar 28, 2010

My wild ass theory about MPB and the low PPM's is the there is so much more surface area, because of the larger plants. More surface area means more water loss due to increased area, and in this way the nutes build up in the plant. (water evaporates and all that left are the nutes..) Also it alot of light and that makes it really dry so the plants lost more water that way as well.

Im sure if it any part of it its just a part of it, but I think it has an effect..

easypleasie · Mar 28, 2010

ppms do seem a bit high, bro. Especially when they're trying to adjust to the lumens. Maybe a lock out? You're veggin in the buckets, right? Maybe even run a much lower ppm till they bounce back...700 ppm, maybe? My veggin girls like around 700-750 ppm. I tried it a little higher and they weren't happy with it. Of course, your girls are gonna have different needs than mine.

I noticed when my ppms match up right with the evaporation/plant uptake, the ph stays much steadier. Too high in nutrients, and the ph drops daily...too low and it goes up. Just an observation as i'm new to hydro and still learning.

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 28, 2010

PPM's dropped to 1005.
I think I will back it down to 800ppm if they dont look a little better tommorow.
Thanx for all the tips. Oh and I vegged them on a flood and drain table.

easypleasie · Mar 28, 2010

Did you flip already? I thought you were gonna veg in the mpbs for a little bit since DD recommended it. I've noticed they respond quickly when levels/conditions are not ideal. Keep an eye on em bro and keep us in the loop! Best of luck homie.

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 28, 2010

I did not flip yet.
I am planning to veg them for atleast 10 to 14 days more in the buckets.
They seemed to be growing alot like my GDP atleast when they were growing.
They have real tight nodes. So I am not expecting to much stretch.

mrdizzle · Mar 28, 2010

I woulndt conclude its the PPM just yet. I have had my bubba's at 1400ppm most of the grow and they are as lush as I could ever imagen. I know the PK can take alot of nutes too

That looks like some lumen shock and possibly over watering. Thats a 8x8 cube, holds a ton of water. Hopefully they turn around for ya

Lost · Mar 28, 2010

That brings up a good point. Can you kill the top feed?

JACKMAYOFFER · Mar 28, 2010

Hey BOSSMAN thats exacatly the way my plants looked two rounds ago when they went into lumen shock, I was scared shitless this round and started out with 4 lights on the lowest setting 4 ft above the plants then every day I lowered just a little. 7 days have passed and tommorow I will lower them where they should be. If I rember correct you where vegging under t5's or t8's ? Thats a huge shock when you put the under HPS I would start with 1 light on way above..I have found it is really hard to turn a plant around once there lumen shocked. Let me know if there is any thing I can help you with ..JACK

easypleasie · Mar 28, 2010

What's your co2 ppms at?

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