toolhead said:
'gravity' i began around the 4th week of my flower cycle (about a couple weeks ago) @ 1/2ml per gallon
'snow storm' began around week 2 of flower @ 1/2 tsp (2 1/2 ml) per gallon til 4th week than upped to 1tsp (5ml) per gallon...(Directions say though to begin application during the vegetative stage & to use all the way through to harvest)
I think you are fine on the Crystal Burst and the Snow Storm - I do not believe either of those contain pgr's like Gravity - which is where this is coming from.
Your triple dipping of P additives notwithstanding, this is not a base-nutes issue.
Week 4 is wayy to early to use HCO's Gravity - I don't care what the label says the proper use of Gravity is like a week before flushing starts - but well after budset - like end of week 6 at the earliest.
Sky High said:
they may try to return to "normal" if you let em go and stop hittin em with the "magic" formulas/flush them out.../etc....
I seriously doubt it Sky - the paclobutrazol dose in gravity is pretty fucking high compared to
Bushmaster . . . methinks they are done given the dosages the OP has described.
Anyway - mis-using Gravity like that has probably more or less finished your plants - I'd imagine you'd be best off pulling what you have for whatever it's worth and restarting your cycle.
Careful with Gravity - it's great stuff if used properly - but people rarely do.
lex said:
but can I offer you an alternative to those PGR's?? Top and train your plants, Gravity is used to keep the plants bushy and increase yield, well you can do this by simply training your plants.
And how do you know he isn't training his plants?
Top and train provides equivalent yield to Gravity? What? Why is a chemical finisher and a pruning technique somehow mutually exclusive?
Any proper grow will have trained and topped plants - and this certainly dovetails well with a potent PGR like Gravity.
lex said:
I'm sure you can get the same yields without the PGR's and you will be more satisfied with your product and yourself once you stop using them and start training your plants
The OP will be more satisfied with his product because
you approve of his additive choices?
lex said:
Thats alot of harmful chemicals your feeding your plants, then smoking
lex said:
Now salts like 'potassium phosphate' are considered 'chemicals' but they are proven to do no harm, some of those products you use are known to cause cancer in some cases.
No, HCO products do not contain a single known carcinogen, whatever your misunderstandings regarding paclobutrazol.
Here, since you are clearly are on some holy quest against PGR's you do not understand - have a read and a dose of enlightenment:
Note at oral doses of 1500mg/kg of body weight liver damage was induced in rats. Larger mammals had no appreciable decline in liver function. There is exactly ZERO onocological effects related to the use of paclobutrazol.
The idea that paclobutrazol, metabolized through a plant, and then dried and smoked (with all the myriad and countless attendant chemical changes these actions entail) will somehow transmit a body-alterting chemical is just stupid - particularly when that plant MIGHT metabolize 25 or 50mg of paclobutrazol over the course of the finish/flush and a solid 1000 - day over day over day - would be needed to induce liver damage. IN RATS.
Seriously - one would ingest way more poison eating a tomato out of the Wal-Mart produce section.
