My leaves look like tornadoes man

PpmOver9000 · Jan 29, 2021

Hello.
The plants pictured below are gorilla glue.
They are in day 3 of flower 12/12
I am growing in rockwool under LEDs
They are receiving 23k lux and 520par
My feed is at 5.7ph/1.4ec
My room is sitting at 79F/60RH day cycle
My room is sitting at 72F/55RRH night cycle

I had a ph issue for a while and have since stabilized it.
When I take a sample of the root zone via syringe, the average reading is 6.0ph/1.1ec

I attributed the leaf twist to ph fluctuations during the time I was fixing it, but since that has been stabilized I am curious as to why I am still seeing this tornado leaf on the newer growth.

PpmOver9000 · Jan 29, 2021

Also, will this fix my twisting leaves?

tobh · Jan 29, 2021

Drop your RH about 10%. Mine were doing the same thing until I got the environment happier. I run at 82F/50% RH during lights on. Keeps the VPD at ~1.5kPa

PpmOver9000 · Jan 29, 2021

tobh said:
Drop your RH about 10%. Mine were doing the same thing until I got the environment happier. I run at 82F/50% RH during lights on. Keeps the VPD at ~1.5kPa

Fantastic. Through my searches before posting this thread, that is the same adjustment I wanted to make so nice to hear from someone who had similar issues.
Question though, are you running CO2 with those numbers?

tobh · Jan 29, 2021

PpmOver9000 said:
Fantastic. Through my searches before posting this thread, that is the same adjustment I wanted to make so nice to hear from someone who had similar issues.
Question though, are you running CO2 with those numbers?

Fuck, I wish. I'd be really killing it if I were. Unfortunately, my configuration is fully vented, so I'm not eager to waste the CO2. Whatever CO2 the girls get is what I breathe while working in the room the tent's in all day.

PpmOver9000 · Jan 29, 2021

tobh said:
Fuck, I wish. I'd be really killing it if I were. Unfortunately, my configuration is fully vented, so I'm not eager to waste the CO2. Whatever CO2 the girls get is what I breathe while working in the room the tent's in all day.

I am also vented, good to hear. I'll be going with this adjustment for tomorrows day cycle, thanks for the input tobh.
I try to do as much cardio as possible when i am the vicinity of my tent.
My goal is to lose weight while my plants gain weight.

PpmOver9000 · Jan 30, 2021

Gon bump this thread cuz i found something going on with the ph inside my cubes just now and can't really find another thread with similar symptoms.

The ph took a nose dive inside my cubes (which i havent checked in 2 days cuz it was stable). My feed going in is 5.7ph/1.6ec and i tested a few cubes at 4.2ph/1.1ec

It was sitting at 5.9ph just 2 days ago, not sure if this is a red flag of something bad like root rot. Now I am thinking the plants looking slightly off these past 2 days is cuz of the very acidic root zone. They were flipped to 12/12 3 days ago which is the last time everything seemed okay.

Typically I will see one go up and the other go down or both stay the same. But never seen a combination of both numbers going down? Any ideas on what this could be?

Aqua Man · Jan 30, 2021

Light stress, looks like a touch of magnesium would also help... mag only NOT cal/mag.

RippedTorn · Jan 31, 2021

So far you've gotten shit advice.

Aqua Man · Jan 31, 2021

RippedTorn said:
So far you've gotten shit advice.

Kinda like this post?

jollycanna · Jan 31, 2021

PpmOver9000 said:
Hello.
The plants pictured below are gorilla glue.
They are in day 3 of flower 12/12
I am growing in rockwool under LEDs
They are receiving 23k lux and 520par
My feed is at 5.7ph/1.4ec
My room is sitting at 79F/60RH day cycle
My room is sitting at 72F/55RRH night cycle

I had a ph issue for a while and have since stabilized it.
When I take a sample of the root zone via syringe, the average reading is 6.0ph/1.1ec

I attributed the leaf twist to ph fluctuations during the time I was fixing it, but since that has been stabilized I am curious as to why I am still seeing this tornado leaf on the newer growth.

i got that when my hormones were juiced to much of some thing

Moshmen · Jan 31, 2021

RippedTorn said:
So far you've gotten shit advice.

Well give us some good! This is a common issue. Please share and we will decide who’s full of shit

Homesteader · Jan 31, 2021

I had a strain do this awhile back while others that were growing next to it in the same soil mix did not. I never really figured out why this strain would "tornado". I like that word for it though.

DAGAR · Jan 31, 2021

PpmOver9000 said:
Gon bump this thread cuz i found something going on with the ph inside my cubes just now and can't really find another thread with similar symptoms.

The ph took a nose dive inside my cubes (which i havent checked in 2 days cuz it was stable). My feed going in is 5.7ph/1.6ec and i tested a few cubes at 4.2ph/1.1ec

It was sitting at 5.9ph just 2 days ago, not sure if this is a red flag of something bad like root rot. Now I am thinking the plants looking slightly off these past 2 days is cuz of the very acidic root zone. They were flipped to 12/12 3 days ago which is the last time everything seemed okay.

Typically I will see one go up and the other go down or both stay the same. But never seen a combination of both numbers going down? Any ideas on what this could be?

By any chance do you have any algae growing on the tops of your cubes?

PpmOver9000 · Jan 31, 2021

Aqua Man said:
Light stress, looks like a touch of magnesium would also help... mag only NOT cal/mag.

Might try foliar an epsom salt mix on a few plants and already dialed back the light, you are second person to say Mag. Do you attribute Mag to the leaf shape or are you looking at the color of the leaf?

PpmOver9000 · Jan 31, 2021

DAGAR said:
By any chance do you have any algae growing on the tops of your cubes?

Yes a bit but I run h202 periodically so it dies off, a lot of the tops of the cubes are just brownish now from the dead algae.

One drop · Jan 31, 2021

RippedTorn said:
So far you've gotten shit advice.

So what’s your advice or are you stumped ...

Dirtbag · Jan 31, 2021

How often are you watering them? Are they getting proper dryback?

PpmOver9000 · Jan 31, 2021

I attributed the randomly low ph due to too big of a dryback between irrigations. Increased my irrigation times and things seem to be back to normal on that front.

As to the leaf issues I still feel like Frank Ocean cuz tornadoes are still flying through my room.
Adjustments so far: dialed back my light intensity, lowered temps and rh to 78F/55RH

Foliared 2 plants with 1g epsom salt in a gallon of RO water, they seemed to look worse a few hours later?

I keep coming back to something environment related, they don't seem to be transpiring properly. The leaves feel dry like they're dehydrated. Is there any chance this is at all related to my irrigation schedule? Maybe I kept the blocks too dry and they simply just needed more food?

Hard to convey in a forum post what my watering is like, but as reference I am seeing very little runoff throughout the day. Just a little dribble around midday. I increased my irrigation times as mentioned above, so gon try to just have more runoff and see if things balance out.

The ec in the blocks is always consistently lower than my input but the last time I tried to just increase the strength of my feed I started to see some burnt tips.

PpmOver9000 · Jan 31, 2021

Dirtbag said:
How often are you watering them? Are they getting proper dryback?

shit read my mind. blocks are always pretty light until midday. But I noticed today that some of the plants I flushed and didnt water them for 24 hours shot down to 3.5ph, while the ones that were on the normal schedule were around 5.4. So I just decided to increase the irrigation length for each feed.

Typically if I saw any buildup, the EC would rise and the PH would drop, however I am seeing both of them dropping. Not sure what this is typically a sign of. Im guessing it's something simple that I am missing, like environment or my feeding habits.

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