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RavenRaziel
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Hi there :)
So by the start of last December I started my first indoor run.
My only experience to that point was a summer outdoor grow on my balcony that went okish until the bud rot came, with my best plant having been a Gelato Auto.
Therefore I went for Gelato Auto again.
I planted 4 of them in 11l pot, fully watered (I was told that's how it's supposed to be done).
Apparently that was not good (and having the seedling soil turn out a gnat hotel didn't help either) because she behaved over watered.
The plants grew (except for one that never really made it far) but a weird cycle occurred.
The plants' fan leaves would always wither away.
To be precise, I would have an average set of 3 nodes with fan leaves, the lowest withered strongly, the one above beginning to go that direction as well and the too growth looks healthy at first then when outgrown enough to let the next pair shoot through, the most recent one would start with things like interveinal chlorosis.
They also didn't really grow in width, after 7 weeks I gave up on them.
This was the status when I dug them out:
So I figured
Try again, this time water only as much as you think the plants need
That went well for about two weeks, then this happened
So I asked and explained that (and why) I kept the watering on the limited side
I got basically treated like and idiot because I would just let the soil turn hydrophobe and got told to water the pot fully both on her and the seedling that just popped out 3 days ago.
After a while my plants looked like this
Because of that I got recommended to transplant the smaller one to a smaller pot/different soil
I figured it's worth a try
This was the situation a few days later
Under the impression that they are overwatered I let them dry back real good but it wouldn't change a thing
Plant behaves like that no matter how light/heavy the pot is.
Drying back would not stop that cycle, neither would watering again when at a reasonable point.
I got recommended to do a full transplant of the big one to another soil
So I did, oddly enough the roots did not look mushy or brown at all
She didn't handle it well but seems to recover?
This was immediately after
She lost some foliage since but this is her now
It looks like the top growth is getting green again, I assume that is a good sign?
Anyway, that's how she looks as of now
Meanwhile the smaller one is doing something, but it doesn't seem to be something good
I also started to raise 4 Blue Sunset Sherbert Photo Fems, they too show issues like that already (one of them stunted because of issues with the seed shell but she is doing better after I freed her)
This was a few days ago (morning of the 15th to be precise)
This is now
I don't understand where the issue is
I went with a bottom feed on these (on the 18th) to make sure they only take as much as they need to
It won't take much longer until they start eating themselves too
I don't understand it, I really dont
My temps are between 24.5 and 29.5 on average
Humidity in the 60s
The soil I use now is a common growing soil here (Floragard Professional Grow Mix: 85% peat, lime, perlites, NPK fertiliser with trace nutrients, additional trace nutrients, trichoderma) and many people seem to be able to grow with it, so it should be fine.
I run a Caluma 80cm×80cm×180cm tent with a Caluma Force Full Spectrum LED (150w, running at 30% atm).
I did not feed anything yet, I just gave water.
My water pH is a little high (past 8) but I keep hearing very conflicting things here ranging from "completely irrelevant because soil acts as a puffer, don't screw around with pH" to "neglectable for organic grows" to "regulate your pH to the right range regardless of medium" so I'm not sure if it even is an issue.
The last 3 months have been nothing but a short period of excitement (this time it seems to work) followed by a feeling of depression and defeat whenever I get up and check the plants because all I see is how they become progressively worse as I'm standing there, powerless, watching myself create just for it to be destroyed by something I don't understand.
So by the start of last December I started my first indoor run.
My only experience to that point was a summer outdoor grow on my balcony that went okish until the bud rot came, with my best plant having been a Gelato Auto.
Therefore I went for Gelato Auto again.
I planted 4 of them in 11l pot, fully watered (I was told that's how it's supposed to be done).
Apparently that was not good (and having the seedling soil turn out a gnat hotel didn't help either) because she behaved over watered.
The plants grew (except for one that never really made it far) but a weird cycle occurred.
The plants' fan leaves would always wither away.
To be precise, I would have an average set of 3 nodes with fan leaves, the lowest withered strongly, the one above beginning to go that direction as well and the too growth looks healthy at first then when outgrown enough to let the next pair shoot through, the most recent one would start with things like interveinal chlorosis.
They also didn't really grow in width, after 7 weeks I gave up on them.
This was the status when I dug them out:
So I figured
Try again, this time water only as much as you think the plants need
That went well for about two weeks, then this happened
So I asked and explained that (and why) I kept the watering on the limited side
I got basically treated like and idiot because I would just let the soil turn hydrophobe and got told to water the pot fully both on her and the seedling that just popped out 3 days ago.
After a while my plants looked like this
Because of that I got recommended to transplant the smaller one to a smaller pot/different soil
I figured it's worth a try
This was the situation a few days later
Under the impression that they are overwatered I let them dry back real good but it wouldn't change a thing
Plant behaves like that no matter how light/heavy the pot is.
Drying back would not stop that cycle, neither would watering again when at a reasonable point.
I got recommended to do a full transplant of the big one to another soil
So I did, oddly enough the roots did not look mushy or brown at all
She didn't handle it well but seems to recover?
This was immediately after
She lost some foliage since but this is her now
It looks like the top growth is getting green again, I assume that is a good sign?
Anyway, that's how she looks as of now
Meanwhile the smaller one is doing something, but it doesn't seem to be something good
I also started to raise 4 Blue Sunset Sherbert Photo Fems, they too show issues like that already (one of them stunted because of issues with the seed shell but she is doing better after I freed her)
This was a few days ago (morning of the 15th to be precise)
This is now
I don't understand where the issue is
I went with a bottom feed on these (on the 18th) to make sure they only take as much as they need to
It won't take much longer until they start eating themselves too
I don't understand it, I really dont
My temps are between 24.5 and 29.5 on average
Humidity in the 60s
The soil I use now is a common growing soil here (Floragard Professional Grow Mix: 85% peat, lime, perlites, NPK fertiliser with trace nutrients, additional trace nutrients, trichoderma) and many people seem to be able to grow with it, so it should be fine.
I run a Caluma 80cm×80cm×180cm tent with a Caluma Force Full Spectrum LED (150w, running at 30% atm).
I did not feed anything yet, I just gave water.
My water pH is a little high (past 8) but I keep hearing very conflicting things here ranging from "completely irrelevant because soil acts as a puffer, don't screw around with pH" to "neglectable for organic grows" to "regulate your pH to the right range regardless of medium" so I'm not sure if it even is an issue.
The last 3 months have been nothing but a short period of excitement (this time it seems to work) followed by a feeling of depression and defeat whenever I get up and check the plants because all I see is how they become progressively worse as I'm standing there, powerless, watching myself create just for it to be destroyed by something I don't understand.