I gotta decrease the lights per hour slowly, GNick in another thread suggested it instead of flipping to straight 12/12 to avoid stress and hermies, so until I get to 14 hours per day ill technically be in veg. I used to just flip 12/12, I didn't know decreasing it slowly reduced stress.A few more weeks? You have plenty of space in the front because you only have one but the ones in the back already took all the net, keep in mind that the first 3 weeks after you flip theyre gonna grow like crazy, some strains can double or triple their height. If it does happen, I think we've all been there anyway, you'll have a few tall branches on the sides that you wont be able to pass through the net anymore but thats not the end of the world.
Yeah I have a feeling these 3 might get out of hand for me haha >.<Hell, Im facing the same problem right now because I misscalculated how much they would grow when I bought bigger and tubular pots, it got out of my hands hahaha but nothing serious.
That's the way I used to do it, just flip 12/12, but I regularly ran regs I wasn't so worried about. I'm running fems at the moment and this is my first set of seeds from this breeder so I am going easy on them. Ill have to think about this lol. I might try and speed up the flip, find something in-between because you are right. The back 2 only have a few squares left.Yes I saw that in your previous post. I have a friend that does the exact opposite, he gives them 1 day of darkness before flipping to 12/12 but he uses trusthworthy clones it might be risky with seeds. I tried it this run and they are more or less all at the same pace, didnt notice a huge difference, but they also didnt get stressed.
I've done it both ways and never noticed a difference, but it will be interesting to get your take on it down the roadI decided to keep the light at 50% for now.
They needed a water yesterday. Their last water was 4 litres 5 days ago, and the bottom of the pots were dry today. This 3rd water was just plain water, as last water included a feed for the soil. I gave them 4 litres each again.
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A slight change of plans. At the suggestion of GNick in another thread, instead of flipping straight to 12/12 I am going to reduce the hours gradually over a few weeks starting today, so the "flip" to flower is going to have a delay. I should have voiced questions earlier as I didn't know a straight 12/12 flip was stressful, its just how I had always done it.
I wish I would have looked into this sooner. I am going to research progressive flower a bit more, and just keep this flower to a 12/12 flip. I spent a good 30 minutes looking at them today and I don't think I can afford any more veg timeI always start at 14/10. and end at 11/13
People ae saying it gives smaller harvest though. I wonder if it's true- somebody would have to run two similar plants and flower them differently. I just don't like that sudden flower. Feels unnatural. And climb is desperate on it. Too desperate
Hey man! Yeah I have always done it 12/12 myself. I wanted to see what people on the breeders discord were doing and they seem to 12/12 flip without worries but the progressive flip makes more sense to me, so I am going to try it next grow. I like the idea of it, I just wished I had of planned for it this grow. I didn't know it was a thing, I just always 12/12'd haha.I've done it both ways and never noticed a difference, but it will be interesting to get your take on it down the road
tempting. I have already seen few people saying they tried and there was no difference...I've done it both ways and never noticed a difference, but it will be interesting to get your take on it down the road
I don't think I can afford any more veg time
I would assume this depends on the intensity of light and DLI. If they reduce light hours and don’t increase intensity, extra stress from reduction of light and adds to a stressful transition. It isnt the flipping to flower that really stresses them out, its the ever reduction in DLI that stresses them. So doing a bell lighting curve is great and desirable, but if you don’t know how to manage lights in that equation and just leave the lights as they are, same intensity same distance, you definitely will Slow everything down and give low yields as they say.I always start at 14/10. and end at 11/13
People ae saying it gives smaller harvest though. I wonder if it's true- somebody would have to run two similar plants and flower them differently. I just don't like that sudden flower. Feels unnatural. And climb is desperate on it. Too desperate
I've likely got something written on it in here from years ago under Beachwalker but I don't remember specificstempting. I have already seen few people saying they tried and there was no difference...
Please elaborate @Beachbumm
Similar strains? Gradual is definitely longer
I am in similar position researching what I can do to cut flower by a week
well. I won't have problem here as they will be jumping from 95W blue to 640 fullI would assume this depends on the intensity of light and DLI. If they reduce light hours and don’t increase intensity, extra stress from reduction of light and adds to a stressful transition. It isnt the flipping to flower that really stresses them out, its the ever reduction in DLI that stresses them. So doing a bell lighting curve is great and desirable, but if you don’t know how to manage lights in that equation and just leave the lights as they are, same intensity same distance, you definitely will Slow everything down and give low yields as they say.
So it’s the grower not maintaining proper DLI that affects the yields when performing bell lighting flower transition. They get the light schedule no problem but people always forget to increase that intensity or shorten light distance while they reduce light hours.
Doing the progressive reduction of light hours will actually cause more stress if you do not do it properly with DLI in mind.
Its all good! The best part of this website is jumping in when you're curious about something talked about in a thread. The community grows togethersorry for trashing your diary BudRanger
Oops! I meant pop it in the flower tentI've likely got something written on it in here from years ago under Beachwalker but I don't remember specifics
I know for a time I was running my veg light at either 14 or more likely 16 hours, and when I noticed one starting to put out white pistils I'd pop it in the veg tent but that's about as much as I recall offhand
Edit: I used to do what you said above with the gradual reduction as well and that did make a difference in speeding up the finishing
Agree, I think it's a waste of time tooReducing hours of light progressively for starting flower doesnt speed up the process, its safer but it makes it slower. Swaping directly to 12/12 makes the plant produce chemicals that tell her its flower time so all that time youre reducing from 18 to 13 or 12, youre wasting it in my opinion. I have only had hermies once and it was because my timer broke and I didnt realize, they were getting 30 minutes of light during their dark period. I personally lean more to speed than safety because if theyre healthy and the genetic is stable they wont herm on you. As I said before I have a friend that works with quality clones and he gives them 1 entire day of darkness before 12/12 and his runs are very short, never hermies. I tried that this grow and out of 4 only 1 is a couple days behind, not a huge difference but noticeable. No stress, no hermies. Its easy to tell when theyre stressed, specially at the start of flower, when theyre stressed they wont grow as usual for a few days. Oh and he is one of the best growers in the region, his weed is always premium (partially due to the fact that he uses clones from the same mother than award winning plants from the spannabis, but also he is very experienced and has everything automated and in the perfect conditions).
he gives them 1 entire day of darkness before 12/12 and his runs are very short, never hermies. I tried that this grow and out of 4 only 1 is a couple days behind, not a huge difference but noticeable.
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