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Name That Deficiency

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DenBloom said:
. I'll throw some pics at the bottoms but I am having some issues in my ebb and flow buckets. I can't really tell if it is a nitrogen toxicity, rootbound plants, pH or nutrient lockout, or a combination of several things. They were vigorously growing until about 2 weeks ago when they stopped suddenly, mostly still dark green, roots were totally white until I started giving SoulN to help them get their stretch on, problems started about a week and a half after starting Soul N supplement. I have 3 large plants and 3 small plants all in 4 gallon flo ebb and flow buckets (Greentrees Multiflow system) so I'm not really thinking rootbound since both ages are showing similar signs.

I did find Thrip larvae in my reservoir and treated accordingly with Bacilus Thuringiensis (israelensis) in the reservoir and am on a regular spinosad regiment every 3 days.

Large plants were getting 1000-1250 ppm (700) and small plants were getting 900-1000 (700) until I put them both on the same res and gave each 1100. This is really when I started seeing issues.

Running GenHydro 3pt Flora series in a formula known as SPURS.

The formula is
Protect-2.5
Micro-5
Grow-5
Bloom-7
Epsom Salt-.5 grams per gallon.

I have run this formula at different strengths for years for both veg and bloom with great success. Now I'm running into this and it's throwing me off a little bit.

Plants were getting fed 4 times per day, then down to 3 -2 times once I started seeing these signs, now back up to 5 for fear of rootbound plants but they still look the same.

Note. First time using SoulN on a regular veg regiment. I have since cut it and have been flushing them for the past 2 days.

Thanks

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I'm not a hydro guy so I'm gonna call in the A-Team here @Wisher619 @EventHorizan @justiceman @mandalaman
 
#31
DenBloom said:
. I'll throw some pics at the bottoms but I am having some issues in my ebb and flow buckets. I can't really tell if it is a nitrogen toxicity, rootbound plants, pH or nutrient lockout, or a combination of several things. They were vigorously growing until about 2 weeks ago when they stopped suddenly, mostly still dark green, roots were totally white until I started giving SoulN to help them get their stretch on, problems started about a week and a half after starting Soul N supplement. I have 3 large plants and 3 small plants all in 4 gallon flo ebb and flow buckets (Greentrees Multiflow system) so I'm not really thinking rootbound since both ages are showing similar signs.

I did find Thrip larvae in my reservoir and treated accordingly with Bacilus Thuringiensis (israelensis) in the reservoir and am on a regular spinosad regiment every 3 days.

Large plants were getting 1000-1250 ppm (700) and small plants were getting 900-1000 (700) until I put them both on the same res and gave each 1100. This is really when I started seeing issues.

Running GenHydro 3pt Flora series in a formula known as SPURS.

The formula is
Protect-2.5
Micro-5
Grow-5
Bloom-7
Epsom Salt-.5 grams per gallon.

I have run this formula at different strengths for years for both veg and bloom with great success. Now I'm running into this and it's throwing me off a little bit.

Plants were getting fed 4 times per day, then down to 3 -2 times once I started seeing these signs, now back up to 5 for fear of rootbound plants but they still look the same.

Note. First time using SoulN on a regular veg regiment. I have since cut it and have been flushing them for the past 2 days.

Thanks

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Cutting the soulN was a good idea. It has calcium nitrate and bat guano in it. The guano wasnt a good choice for the res and could cause a pathogen bloom so I wonder how the roots are looking.

I'd be hesitant to increase calmag to 5ml. Thats quite alot actually if you measure it with a meter. I don't mean to give oposing advice but I'd reckon the gh 3part along with 2ml calmag should be plenty. Not to mention you added additional cal already with SoulN.

I'd lower the feed strength by atleast .2-.4EC and flood em 4x a day like when they were healthy so they have more opportunity for water. They look overfed from the searing yellow tips in the second picture. Probably having a hard time uptaking nutes because of strength or somethings up with the roots.
 
#32
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DenBloom said:
And cal mag 2 ml per gal.
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What is the median? Hydroton? Ebb and flow as in, buckets that flood periodically? How many buckets you got? Take a pic of the whole plant and the whole garden. My initial guess is N Toxicity and that's causing a Ca dif. But that is just a guess. I do jot think it's a Ca dif on its own.
Maybe root problems. Larva he said he found, so there is that concern. Are you using hydrogaurd?
What is protect? Silica?
 
#35
justiceman said:
Cutting the soulN was a good idea. It has calcium nitrate and bat guano in it. The guano wasnt a good choice for the res and could cause a pathogen bloom so I wonder how the roots are looking.

I'd be hesitant to increase calmag to 5ml. Thats quite alot actually if you measure it with a meter. I don't mean to give oposing advice but I'd reckon the gh 3part along with 2ml calmag should be plenty. Not to mention you added additional cal already with SoulN.

I'd lower the feed strength by atleast .2-.4EC and flood em 4x a day like when they were healthy so they have more opportunity for water. They look overfed from the searing yellow tips in the second picture. Probably having a hard time uptaking nutes because of strength or somethings up with the roots.
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I believe you are spot on! Op has all the advice needed it your post.
 
#38
justiceman said:
Cutting the soulN was a good idea. It has calcium nitrate and bat guano in it. The guano wasnt a good choice for the res and could cause a pathogen bloom so I wonder how the roots are looking.

I'd be hesitant to increase calmag to 5ml. Thats quite alot actually if you measure it with a meter. I don't mean to give oposing advice but I'd reckon the gh 3part along with 2ml calmag should be plenty. Not to mention you added additional cal already with SoulN.

I'd lower the feed strength by atleast .2-.4EC and flood em 4x a day like when they were healthy so they have more opportunity for water. They look overfed from the searing yellow tips in the second picture. Probably having a hard time uptaking nutes because of strength or somethings up with the roots.
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Roots have definitely taken a hit, starting after Soul was added, went from pearly white to brown, not root rot but definitely stained and or something going on. I went with 3 ml of cal mag per gal as I had to mix before I saw this,
 
#39
EventHorizan said:
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What is the median? Hydroton? Ebb and flow as in, buckets that flood periodically? How many buckets you got? Take a pic of the whole plant and the whole garden. My initial guess is N Toxicity and that's causing a Ca dif. But that is just a guess. I do jot think it's a Ca dif on its own.
Maybe root problems. Larva he said he found, so there is that concern. Are you using hydrogaurd?
What is protect? Silica?
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Median is hydroponic, ebb and flow 4 gal buckets that flood 5x per 18 hour lights on.
Yes running hydroguard, yes Protekt is a silica.
 
#40
DenBloom said:
Roots have definitely taken a hit, starting after Soul was added, went from pearly white to brown, not root rot but definitely stained and or something going on. I went with 3 ml of cal mag per gal as I had to mix before I saw this,
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Keep an eye and a nose on your roots. If you don't see any new white ones coming or they smell funky then that's gonna be a sign of a pathogen for sure. Make sure your reservoir temps aren't too high either. I know it's been warming up outside lately. Forgot to mention that part. I hope they pull out!
 
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