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I have 4 total plants and my second year growing in NE ohio. 2 are great in my back yard . But 2 I have in another friends backyard .the 2 that are in friends back yard in having some trouble with. 1 I feel like they might not be getting enough sun at that location in the ground . 2- I went over tonight and they are have little yellow/white spots all over leaves . I feel like it might be a bug problem but not experienced enough to know or what's going on. I'm thinking about moving them to my yard where my other 2 is because they seems to just be struggling I took pictures . If anyone has ideas
 

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according to growweedeasy.com

Fourlined Plant Bugs

This is the cannabis leaf damage from a four-lined plant bug (Poecilocapsus lineatus). You can see the adult version of the bug on the lower left. Both the adults and their nymphs make spots in cannabis leaves that usually appear in clusters.

This is the cannabis leaf damage from a four-lined plant bug (Poecilocapsus lineatus). Commonly misdiagnosed as leafhopper or planthopper damage. You can see the adult version of the fourlined plant bug on the lower left. Both the adults and their nymphs make spots in cannabis leaves that usually appear in clusters.

 
according to growweedeasy.com

Fourlined Plant Bugs

This is the cannabis leaf damage from a four-lined plant bug (Poecilocapsus lineatus). You can see the adult version of the bug on the lower left. Both the adults and their nymphs make spots in cannabis leaves that usually appear in clusters.

This is the cannabis leaf damage from a four-lined plant bug (Poecilocapsus lineatus). Commonly misdiagnosed as leafhopper or planthopper damage. You can see the adult version of the fourlined plant bug on the lower left. Both the adults and their nymphs make spots in cannabis leaves that usually appear in clusters.

I wonder if seven dust will kill em
 
Will sevin dust work?
this is what google say:

How to get rid of 4 line bugs?


Contact insecticides listed for control of four-lined plant bug include carbaryl (sevin), bifenthrin, permethrin, lambda-cyhalothrin, acetamiprid, and cyfluthrin. If you do choose to use pesticides, be sure to read the label carefully and pay particular attention if you are going to use an insecticide on vegetables or herbs
Horticultural oils and insecticidal soaps are alternatives, but they do not work well on plant bugs after the spray has dried

Is Sevin safe to use on cannabis?


Using Sevin on marijuana plants can come with several risks. Firstly, as mentioned earlier, the potential for residue is a significant concern. Even trace amounts of pesticides can be harmful when inhaled or ingested, making it crucial to consider the implications for end-users.
 
this is what google say:

How to get rid of 4 line bugs?


Contact insecticides listed for control of four-lined plant bug include carbaryl (sevin), bifenthrin, permethrin, lambda-cyhalothrin, acetamiprid, and cyfluthrin. If you do choose to use pesticides, be sure to read the label carefully and pay particular attention if you are going to use an insecticide on vegetables or herbs
Horticultural oils and insecticidal soaps are alternatives, but they do not work well on plant bugs after the spray has dried

Is Sevin safe to use on cannabis?


Using Sevin on marijuana plants can come with several risks. Firstly, as mentioned earlier, the potential for residue is a significant concern. Even trace amounts of pesticides can be harmful when inhaled or ingested, making it crucial to consider the implications for end-users.
I've used sevin dust on my last grow last year. You just got a make sure to wash it off good after you give it 24 hours to work
 
Abstract
Insecticide use is steadily increasing in the United States. Of these, the insecticide Sevin™ has the active ingredient carbaryl, which is a xenobiotic. This is a reverse inhibitor of acetylcholinesterase, which prevents nerve excitation causing paralysis and death in insects. Though insects are the target species, carbaryl has many routes of exposure such as run-off, inhalation, and physical contact making it easy to encounter for non-target species like aquatic life and humans. Carbaryl has been studied within in vitro models to test its effects on zebrafish. The insecticide has already been shown to act on the acetylcholinesterase (AChE) pathway, but it also has potential to act on a second pathway: the aryl hydrocarbon receptor (AhR) pathway. Zebrafish genes and genetic pathways are homologous to humans, allowing for insight on how carbaryl could be affecting humans as well. This study set out to use an in vivo model to show how carbaryl is inducing cytochrome P450 or other AhR pathway gene expression. Gene expression of carbaryl treated embryos were compared to untreated embryos to examine this possible relationship. Cyp1a and cyp1b gene expression was increased with an increase in carbaryl concentration suggesting that carbaryl may be causing induction of the AhR pathway.

Low levels of acetylcholine are associated with memory issues and muscle disorders. Cholinesterase inhibitors are used to treat Alzheimer's disease and myasthenia gravis. The benefits of a choline supplement have yet to be fully determined

The resulting accumulation of ACh causes symptoms such as cramps, increased salivation, lacrimation, muscular weakness, paralysis, fasciculations, diarrhea, and blurry vision

The aryl hydrocarbon receptor (AhR) is a ligand‑activated transcription factor originally isolated and characterized as the dioxin or xenobiotic receptor. With the discovery of endogenous ligands and studies of AhR knockout mice, AhR has been found to serve an important role in several biological processes, including immune responses and developmental and pathological regulation. In particular, it has been considered as a new major player in cardiovascular diseases. Recent studies have revealed that the development of atherosclerosis is closely associated with AhR function. However, the roles of the AhR in the pathological development of atherosclerosis and atherosclerosis‑associated diseases remain unclear. The current review presents the molecular mechanisms involved in the regulation of AhR expression during inflammation, oxidative stress and lipid deposition. Additionally, the role of the AhR in atherosclerosis and atherosclerosis‑associated diseases is reviewed.

residue are not necessarly on the leaf they could be for part absorded by the plant, so not sure about washing the plant.

not sure i personnally would risk it with that product after diggin a little around it, actually we lack actual studies to be 100% sure it's safe or not when used in that context.
 
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the thing about four lined plant bugs is they could be nomad and don't necessarly stay on the same plant across the mating season, so if they don't lay egg on your plant the issue might be anecdotal and neglectable overall and treating might be useless if they re gone
 
Abstract
Insecticide use is steadily increasing in the United States. Of these, the insecticide Sevin™ has the active ingredient carbaryl, which is a xenobiotic. This is a reverse inhibitor of acetylcholinesterase, which prevents nerve excitation causing paralysis and death in insects. Though insects are the target species, carbaryl has many routes of exposure such as run-off, inhalation, and physical contact making it easy to encounter for non-target species like aquatic life and humans. Carbaryl has been studied within in vitro models to test its effects on zebrafish. The insecticide has already been shown to act on the acetylcholinesterase (AChE) pathway, but it also has potential to act on a second pathway: the aryl hydrocarbon receptor (AhR) pathway. Zebrafish genes and genetic pathways are homologous to humans, allowing for insight on how carbaryl could be affecting humans as well. This study set out to use an in vivo model to show how carbaryl is inducing cytochrome P450 or other AhR pathway gene expression. Gene expression of carbaryl treated embryos were compared to untreated embryos to examine this possible relationship. Cyp1a and cyp1b gene expression was increased with an increase in carbaryl concentration suggesting that carbaryl may be causing induction of the AhR pathway.

Low levels of acetylcholine are associated with memory issues and muscle disorders. Cholinesterase inhibitors are used to treat Alzheimer's disease and myasthenia gravis. The benefits of a choline supplement have yet to be fully determined

The resulting accumulation of ACh causes symptoms such as cramps, increased salivation, lacrimation, muscular weakness, paralysis, fasciculations, diarrhea, and blurry vision

The aryl hydrocarbon receptor (AhR) is a ligand‑activated transcription factor originally isolated and characterized as the dioxin or xenobiotic receptor. With the discovery of endogenous ligands and studies of AhR knockout mice, AhR has been found to serve an important role in several biological processes, including immune responses and developmental and pathological regulation. In particular, it has been considered as a new major player in cardiovascular diseases. Recent studies have revealed that the development of atherosclerosis is closely associated with AhR function. However, the roles of the AhR in the pathological development of atherosclerosis and atherosclerosis‑associated diseases remain unclear. The current review presents the molecular mechanisms involved in the regulation of AhR expression during inflammation, oxidative stress and lipid deposition. Additionally, the role of the AhR in atherosclerosis and atherosclerosis‑associated diseases is reviewed.

residue are not necessarly on the leaf they could be for part absorded by the plant, so not sure about washing the plant.

not sure i personnally would risk it with that product after diggin a little around it, actually we lack actual studies to be 100% sure it's safe or not when used in that context.
I did use seven dust last year on the plant I only grew 1 last year to see if I could do it so this year I got 4. What else would kill them because if not their gonna probably kill that plant and it's only on 1 plant out of 4 but their all spaced out
 
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the thing about four lined plant bugs is they could be nomad and don't necessarly stay on the same plant across the mating season, so if they don't lay egg on your plant the issue might be anecdotal and neglectable overall and treating might be useless if they re gone
Lets hope! I have seen some and other random bugs but nothing crazy like just this 1 plant out of 4
 
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