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Sadly I've seen a lot of operations just like that. Shut up, do your job. Don't ask questions, don't derive from the plan. First one who tries to suggest a better way to do ... anything.. gets to find a new job.First question. Is the quality bad or the yield shitty? Why switch? Reason I ask is why are you trying to give the "head" grower tips or ideas. Not sure how long you have been working in the industry but keep that shit to yourself unless someone pays for you to be in that position or you do the right thing and consult.
I sure hope thats not the kind of environment you work in, or worse you are the one in charge that discourages frank discussion about what you are doing. We talk frequently about current trends and whats going on in the industry
First question. Is the quality bad or the yield shitty? Why switch? Reason I ask is why are you trying to give the "head" grower tips or ideas. Not sure how long you have been working in the industry but keep that shit to yourself unless someone pays for you to be in that position or you do the right thing and consult.
I sure hope thats not the kind of environment you work in, or worse you are the one in charge that discourages frank discussion about what you are doing. We talk frequently about current trends and whats going on in the industry
Sadly I've seen a lot of operations just like that. Shut up, do your job. Don't ask questions, don't derive from the plan. First one who tries to suggest a better way to do ... anything.. gets to find a new job.
My best suggestion is talk to some large scale super soil people. I haven't seen it yet indoors. Most everyone I know still using soil in warehouses are using something like 707, ocean forest, or buying bulk from a supplier like B.A.S. The amount of time and labor involved is the deal killer. Outdoors I understand. Indoors on multi crop flips and year. You would almost have to employee people just to mix and tend soil. Not to mention the amount of room you would need to let the soil cook depending on the plant count and # of lights. Why you just buy it from a processor and have it delivered. Cuts all of that out of the picture.
Just for info purposes, We are not having problems. We started growing in peat, and are currently growing in large grodans. Our facility is enormous and we are kicking around the idea of doing one small room as a premium grade product (although to date we have been pretty pleased with what we have been producing)
I started commercial growing in Las Vegas, and at the time Greenlife productions was the only one doing a no-till super soil. They seemed to be doing a pretty good job (I liked the quality of their product) however I dont know them. Someone else suggested looking up build a soil which I plan on doing.
That's a good looking girl there. As for needing nutes towards the end of cycle, I top off with more ss here and there. That usually works great. And being that the ss is organic, I don't flush either. Keep me posted on your grow, looks nice.Greengenes, that is why I switched to SS. It is just so much easier during the grow. (I havent posted pics here yet but i'll try) This was my last grow. This plant is way bigger than I typically flower with. Towards the end it really needed more nutes, I tried some teas but I think it was to little to late. I think It was just in the pot to long before I flowered (i was waiting on one more plant) It was about 5 feet wide. Yeild was great thoughView attachment 903817
living soil is recreating a living soil food web, its not something that "garders just made up in their backyard" we've been growing like this forever, and organic growing is pennies to the dollar compared to bottle feeding and other methods. if you wanna see organic growing on a commercial scale id be more than happy to send you pictures of multiple growers doing it right and saving way more money and producing higher yields in weight and cannabinoid production. Just because its just now being accepted into cannabis growing doesn't mean its not betterThere isnt any specifically in super soil. Cause super soil isnt an industry thing. It's just something backyard gardeners made up an pretent is the best thing since sliced bread.
The only studies you will find are organic vs non organic fertilizers. If you're an organic grower, I suggest not reading the studies. You wont like what they say.
Also add something to aereated the soil like coco or perliteA simple 3 part mix
1 part sphagnum peat moss
1 part worm castings
1 part good compost
Then just add some kelp meal, glacial rock dust, red wiggler worms, nightcrawler worms, and some cover crop seed.
You can build the soil hella cheap if you use local sources. I have been getting premium mushroom compost from a mushroom farm for 11$ a yard
Living soil is not "bro science" all living soil is doing is creating a diversity in microbes and making nutrients plant available. the idea is to make the nutrients plant available and your trees will take up what it needs their is nothing bro science about that. that how all plants thrive essentially.First question. Is the quality bad or the yield shitty? Why switch? Reason I ask is why are you trying to give the "head" grower tips or ideas. Not sure how long you have been working in the industry but keep that shit to yourself unless someone pays for you to be in that position or you do the right thing and consult.
If you want to bring something like that to the table figure out how much ( I assume you are already using soil) you are using on a per cycle basis from start to finish and the cost and compare it to super soil cost plus the labor and machinery you will need to mix up large scale batches. The answer is pretty simple from that standpoint. BTW this isnt looking this up online it's calling people and getting quotes on delivery and bulk pricing. Also if you plan to recycle it afterwards and the labor involved in that or not. All depends on scale and if you are indoors or greenhouse or outdoors. It's pretty easy to convince people on scale when the dollars makes sense. As long as YOU know what you are talking about in depth and not just scratching the surface or quoting a phrase someone else said AKA you should prob have been using super soil for a long time or on a large scale to make a suggestion like that and you aren't green behind the ears. I have seen a lot of people talk the talk but when it came time to walk they got their legs nawed off by a rabid beaver and are now dragging themselves everywhere.
Super soil is bro science to a point. The is plenty of science and testing/research on organic soil. Not specifically on super soil. It's just a recipe that was copied and tweaked a little to call it's own. The base recipe was being used and tweaked by Vic High for years. No telling if he was going off testing and analysis but from what I remember he had a pretty long write up of trail and error over years getting it to where he wanted it, not to say he already didn't have many years under his belt mixing soil. This was quite a while ago.
Also their is copious amount of research on organic growing I suggest you research Jeff lowinsfield maybe you can learn a thing or twoliving soil is recreating a living soil food web, its not something that "garders just made up in their backyard" we've been growing like this forever, and organic growing is pennies to the dollar compared to bottle feeding and other methods. if you wanna see organic growing on a commercial scale id be more than happy to send you pictures of multiple growers doing it right and saving way more money and producing higher yields in weight and cannabinoid production. Just because its just now being accepted into cannabis growing doesn't mean its not better
-- P.S. I grow commercially and organic
living soil is recreating a living soil food web, its not something that "garders just made up in their backyard" we've been growing like this forever, and organic growing is pennies to the dollar compared to bottle feeding and other methods. if you wanna see organic growing on a commercial scale id be more than happy to send you pictures of multiple growers doing it right and saving way more money and producing higher yields in weight and cannabinoid production. Just because its just now being accepted into cannabis growing doesn't mean its not better
-- P.S. I grow commercially and organic
Lol Trust me I will, and you have fun growing synthetic mids lmaoYeah, I dont care..
Nothing you said has anything to do with what I said.
Supersoil is a made up marketing term.
Normally scientific studies dont test niche marketing. They would just call it what its. Organic fortified soil.
Anyways. Have fun. I have no interest in inferior growing techniques. I just answered a question. I'm not in to arguing nonsense.
Good luck with whatever you want to do!
and you obviously have done 0 research buddy so please keep irrelevant info of this form, he's wanting to learn about organic soil and you and your huge ego trying to crap on living soil when clearly you have no knowledge over it, whats hilarious is your over here over paying for bottled nutrients and organic growers making yall look silly and we pay a fraction of what yall payLol Trust me I will, and you have fun growing synthetic mids lmao
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