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[franklygrown]

All of my plants are autos. I do have a couple outside. Any couple inside I have sour diesel blue cheese, and Acapulco gold there’s only one out of seven plants I’ve been growing that is not flowering all the other ones flowered way too early. I don’t think there’s a way to avoid that. Thanks for any help though.

I'm new, but my research tells me photoperiod produce more. The ability to control the cycle allows a stronger, longer veg. to build stores for more flower production.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

All of my plants are autos. I do have a couple outside. Any couple inside I have sour diesel blue cheese, and Acapulco gold there’s only one out of seven plants I’ve been growing that is not flowering all the other ones flowered way too early. I don’t think there’s a way to avoid that. Thanks for any help though.

It's best to start a thread of your own to discuss your grow.

 

[Captspaulding]

Yeah Fox farms HF/OF

That combo has a high amount of buffers.
Its not looking like a ph thing to me.
More of a lack of potassium.
And heat stress.

 

[Captspaulding]

I'm new, but my research tells me photoperiod produce more. The ability to control the cycle allows a stronger, longer veg. to build stores for more flower production.

Photo periods can produce more as long as you hang in there and veg and do the proper amount of training to a plant and of course they’re gonna yield more than any auto because the moment that an auto sprout a clock is ticking and you’re definitely on the bubble and you better not mess up because if you do, it’s gonna affect your flowering cycle in a myriad ways you top too late Well then your plants gonna not finish vegging all the way to sustain. It’s new growth and you’re gonna have stubby or stretched out buds with a lot of space in between nodes.
Did you overdose in nitrogen well if you did, you’re gonna have less amount of time to go ahead and do Water only feeds to deplete the amount in soil before you get in the flower which can then translate into more issues as well? Did you have your lights set wrong? Maybe burn your plants a bit well with Auto you have a very limited amount of time to allow the plant to heal and you’re most likely trying to do LST and topping the plant, and guess what now you’re compounding issues Auto are a serious pain in the ass for new growers. I don’t know where people got the idea that Auto’s are great for beginners because they’re just not. just because they can flower by themselves doesn’t mean that they’re magically gonna grow Baller weed and you’re on a damn timer the moment that they sprout you need to be fundamentally sound and no exactly what the hell you’re doing have nutrient regimen dialed in environment as well, to ensure no stressors and know exactly what your window of opportunity is to be able to top, fim and train your plant.
I truly believe that training yourself to know the difference between nutrient caused toxicities and environmental stressors on your plants,
Because to an untrained eye, there are nutrient related issues that look like light stressors and vice versa throwing Auto in the mix in that it can be a straight up train wreck

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Are you saying I should use straight Coco?

You should choose between coco OR soil. There's nothing wrong with running coco. There's actually much to like about running coco. Likewise, with soil ... either medium alone is fine. When you begin mixing it is when you start asking for trouble.

In your case, looking at your buds/flowers, you'll get more weight with soil than you are right now ... and probably even more weight with coco than you would using soil alone. Either way, your yield will improve by using either coco or soil.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Why do some of my plants that are only 5 inches tall flower so early I end up with very small amount of smokable weed

I believe its due to the mix of coco and potting soil. Autos don't give you much time to correct issues so its best to have everything right when you get started. Then, you might actually yield close to the plant's potential.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

So the fact that they sell coco/perlite specifically for the purpose of amending topsoil and potting soil is a failing business model... I'll have to tell my supplier.....
These were grown in Home Depot bagged topsoil mixed with commercial coco and perlite.

There's a huge difference between what you buy in the store premixed and what a grower mixes up at home. This came up because a poster was remarking how he hasn't had trouble with his 50/50 mix of coco/soil. His flowers and plants showed otherwise. They were all small and stunted.

Here's the difference. These suppliers that mix these mediums together have research and development labs. They have the ability to test and to buffer these mixes in their research labs and then test for quality control in their quality labs. These are not things most home based growers have access to. So, bottom line here ... if you bought a commercial mix designed to amend a top soil or potting soil, the research is there and the mix has been adjusted for its use. If you're mixing this at home from scratch, you'll likely not get it right because of the different properties coco and soil have and the lack of a fully equipped lab to test the properties of your home made mix.

That's the difference between your commercially made mixes and coco/soil mixes made at home.

 

[franklygrown]

There's a huge difference between what you buy in the store premixed and what a grower mixes up at home. This came up because a poster was remarking how he hasn't had trouble with his 50/50 mix of coco/soil. His flowers and plants showed otherwise. They were all small and stunted.

Here's the difference. These suppliers that mix these mediums together have research and development labs. They have the ability to test and to buffer these mixes in their research labs and then test for quality control in their quality labs. These are not things most home based growers have access to. So, bottom line here ... if you bought a commercial mix designed to amend a top soil or potting soil, the research is there and the mix has been adjusted for its use. If you're mixing this at home from scratch, you'll likely not get it right because of the different properties coco and soil have and the lack of a fully equipped lab to test the properties of your home made mix.

That's the difference between your commercially made mixes and coco/soil mixes made at home.

Thanks, my snark was not needed. I know just enough to get me in trouble.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Thanks, my snark was not needed. I know just enough to get me in trouble.

No offense taken. This does become a divided topic sometimes. I've been growing for a while. I've tried a lot of different things. Some have been quite successful. Others have not. You live and learn. However, if I can steer you away from a potential problem because I already went to the school of hard knocks over it, I'll share it with the hopes of saving you those growing pains.

When it comes to commercial mixes, not all are equal anyway. Fox Farm makes good products. If you use them the way they are intended, you'll usually do well.

 

[franklygrown]

No offense taken. This does become a divided topic sometimes. I've been growing for a while. I've tried a lot of different things. Some have been quite successful. Others have not. You live and learn. However, if I can steer you away from a potential problem because I already went to the school of hard knocks over it, I'll share it with the hopes of saving you those growing pains.

When it comes to commercial mixes, not all are equal anyway. Fox Farm makes good products. If you use them the way they are intended, you'll usually do well.

I use FF bottled nutes, a little lighter as internet suggests. I have done ok I guess, trying to give the girls what they ask for. Little pinch Epsom here & there, watering consistently 6.2-6.6 ph, run off is little higher. FF seems low in N gave extra during veg, told not too much N for flower, for taste. I now think that's a mistake.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

I use FF bottled nutes, a little lighter as internet suggests. I have done ok I guess, trying to give the girls what they ask for. Little pinch Epsom here & there, watering consistently 6.2-6.6 ph, run off is little higher. FF seems low in N gave extra during veg, told not too much N for flower, for taste. I now think that's a mistake.

N is needed in higher amounts during veg up through the stretch. After that, the plants still require some, but its not that much in comparison. If you're asking if stopping N too soon is a mistake? Then yes, that is correct. Here's my go-to chart to help illustrate this:

 

[Bozzin]

Be aware that its a recipe for trouble at some point. The coco and soil have completely different properties. I looked at your pictures you uploaded. Your buds are very small. You would do much better with either soil or coco ... Your grows can improve if you stop mixing them together.

What soil do you recommend regular topsoil r straight, Coco

 

[Bozzin]

What soil do you recommend regular topsoil r straight, Coco

 

[Bozzin]

I just took these five minutes ago. I want to hear from people what I am doing wrong they flower when they were only a couple inches tall they are auto flowers.

 

[Bozzin]

I just took these five minutes ago. I want to hear from people what I am doing wrong they flower when they were only a couple inches tall they are auto flowers.

The top picture is indoors

 

[franklygrown]

I just took these five minutes ago. I want to hear from people what I am doing wrong they flower when they were only a couple inches tall they are auto flowers.

Captn Spaulding has a great explanation above, read through this page.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

What soil do you recommend regular topsoil r straight, Coco

That depends.

Are you able to water plants daily? Do you have issues using nutrient salts? If you can water daily and you aren't trying to grow organically, then coco very much might be for you. Keep in mind that coco is inert so there's no stored nutrition in the coco itself. If it has nutrients, its been added by the manufacturer. You'll need to feed it early on and regularly.

If the thought of watering your plants daily is too much for you due to work schedule or life in general, then soil would likely be the way to go. I use Ocean Forest. I add extra perlite (20%). My goal is to water my mature plants every 3-4 days. If you want to grow organically, then soil might be your easiest first approach.

This is just scratching the surface.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

I'm new, but my research tells me photoperiod produce more. The ability to control the cycle allows a stronger, longer veg. to build stores for more flower production.

There are advantages for each type of plant.

I like growing an auto occasionally. They're usually energetic growers, and that's fun to watch. I have one planned for my next grow. My best advice about growing them is to get as good a vegetation stage as possible. There aren't second chances like there are with photos, so, with autos, vegetation has a significant impact on differences in yield.

 

[franklygrown]

There are advantages for each type of plant.

I like growing an auto occasionally. They're usually energetic growers, and that's fun to watch. I have one planned for my next grow. My best advice about growing them is to get as good a vegetation stage as possible. There aren't second chances like there are with photos, so, with autos, vegetation has a significant impact on differences in yield.

Photoperiod are more forgiving for beginners figuring it out? Auto are more for those that already know what to expect?

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Photoperiod are more forgiving for beginners figuring it out? Auto are more for those that already know what to expect?

Autos are great for outdoor grows in more northern climates where you need to run the full grow cycle and be done before September. I've run a number of them outdoors in recent years.

Indoors, I run photos. Where photos shine is I can train the plant and flip to flower when I'm ready. I'm not on a built in timer running inside the plant.