Need info cracking 25 year old seeds?

Beachwalker · May 9, 2020

I'm going to crack a few soon and I'm a little anxious about it cuz I think these are special seeds (I wouldn't have kept them if they weren't)

I will probably try to scuff them, but I have never had luck trying to scuff seeds (I think I scuff them too much?) I've even tried the little pill container and spin them with the sand people lining and that didn't go well either. I stopped that a few years ago because I think I had zero luck with treating seeds like that :/

I was wondering if there's anything to soak them in that would help? One person mentioned a kelp soak and I was wondering what else people do with old seeds?

Madbud · May 9, 2020

I can only tell you what never worked for me, soaking, sandpaper, biting and coconut water. After a couple years the seeds just dry out in a baggie, but a couple thousand years in a pyramid is a different matter.

Beachwalker · May 9, 2020

Madbud said:
I can only tell you what never worked for me, soaking, sandpaper, biting and coconut water. After a couple years the seeds just dry out in a baggie, but a couple thousand years in a pyramid is a different matter.

(wonders where to get a pyramid this time of day?)

That's kind of what I was thinking really, I didn't know if there was a tried-and-true method but I doubt it; and somebody already said sometimes they crack and they just lay there and die, I've seen that before on seeds that were not even that old :/

I'm going to do some in a paper towel and some in medium right next to them, same conditions 80°, full humidity, Dome & all that see what happens?!

Beachwalker · May 9, 2020

Beachwalker said:
(wonders where to get a pyramid this time of day?)

That's kind of what I was thinking really, I didn't know if there was a tried-and-true method but I doubt it; and somebody already said sometimes they crack and they just lay there and die, I've seen that before on seeds that were not even that old :/

I'm going to do some in a paper towel and some in medium right next to them, same conditions 80°, full humidity, Dome & all that see what happens?!

Wanted to add I'm going to do a short 1 hour soak in warm distilled water, don't want to risk drowning anything that might be alive!

Edinburgh · May 9, 2020

I store my beans in the fridge in a pill bottle of rice to prevent condensation, however my boy has seeds from the 90s, you need to soak in a cup of warm water for a few hours, if they float wait till they sink, not all will germanate but many will. Nature allways finds a way, happy growing.

MIMedGrower · May 9, 2020

Beachwalker said:
Wanted to add I'm going to do a short 1 hour soak in warm distilled water, don't want to risk drowning anything that might be alive!

My old breeder told me to always use tap water as the minerals help with germination.

stanknugzz77 · May 9, 2020

I have found a combination of h2o2 and ga3 usually does the trick, IF seeds are still viable. I wish you well with germination. Positive vibes...

~nugzz

cgab3 · May 10, 2020

There's a good article in the sticky threads, the germination bomb... Id give it a read

Madbud · May 10, 2020

Got a new idea and a bag of seeds from last century, seriously not one less than 20 years old. Freeze some in a cup of soil inside a baggie, then germinate in sunlight. Here we gofunny thing is none have stripes

Beachwalker · May 10, 2020

cgab3 said:
There's a good article in the sticky threads, the germination bomb... Id give it a read

Thanks!

Germination Bomb For Old Or Difficult Seeds

Germinating old seeds is of great interest to me. I have a pretty good collection of seeds dating back to around 2003-2007 plus bag seeds that I saved from around 1996-98. All the seeds I saved from back in the 70's are long gone, sigh. I am using some of the old bag seeds for these experiments...

www.thcfarmer.com

Jimster · May 10, 2020

Beachwalker said:
(wonders where to get a pyramid this time of day?)

That's kind of what I was thinking really, I didn't know if there was a tried-and-true method but I doubt it; and somebody already said sometimes they crack and they just lay there and die, I've seen that before on seeds that were not even that old :/

I'm going to do some in a paper towel and some in medium right next to them, same conditions 80°, full humidity, Dome & all that see what happens?!

I have some beans from the late 70s that will still crack, although the rate has dropped off a lot to about 10%. I still use a ziplock and paper towels, with tap water. Call me a caveman!

Indiva710 · May 11, 2020

I have heard treating them like tissue culture for starting old seeds is the way to go by rinsing them with h2o2 then u could get a small container and lid and line with sandpaper and give a shake...Then they say to use sterilized sugar and carbs I believe it was there's a utube video that does it that way and he says it does wonders as it gives the old seeds the ooomph they need to sprout and grow hope it helps best of luck

Madbud · May 21, 2020

Madbud said:
Got a new idea and a bag of seeds from last century, seriously not one less than 20 years old. Freeze some in a cup of soil inside a baggie, then germinate in sunlight. Here we goView attachment 970835funny thing is none have stripesView attachment 970836

Ten days frozen, now hang it in the sun

revfunk · May 21, 2020

Beachwalker said:
(wonders where to get a pyramid this time of day?)

That's kind of what I was thinking really, I didn't know if there was a tried-and-true method but I doubt it; and somebody already said sometimes they crack and they just lay there and die, I've seen that before on seeds that were not even that old :/

I'm going to do some in a paper towel and some in medium right next to them, same conditions 80°, full humidity, Dome & all that see what happens?!

Amazon sold out of pyramids just 2 days into this pandemic

Madbud · May 27, 2020

Madbud said:
Ten days frozen, now hang it in the sunView attachment 975576

Aaaaaand nothing after six days

basscaptain · May 28, 2020

so what ended up happening........ if it was me I would of soaked them in 75%water 25% HP for 2 days then to a coffee filter and shot of HP in that, and them 3 days in the black box.......................

weedtech · May 28, 2020

Roll the bones. Wondering never moved anything forward.]

Get busy.

Kanzeon · May 28, 2020

I've had great luck using a "rooting solution" of iba, kelp extract, and aspirin in the germination medium. Impressive initial results on clones as well.

Sorry. Formula.

500mL H2O
.01g IBA
5g liquid kelp extract
100mg aspirin

Sprayed over the medium before planting the seeds, and on the leaves of the recently cloned plants.

Beachwalker · Jun 4, 2020

Getting ready to try a few of these seeds I'm going to do them pretty much routine with the paper towels and the rest of the bells and whistles, if anything happens I'll come back with some pics ✌

basscaptain · Jun 5, 2020

I'll try a few.. if you need a 2nd level dickhead involved ...lol

Good Luck... Hope you get a few to go......

Need info cracking 25 year old seeds?

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