Two things i know of that will help with most problems= #1 Vermi T natural keylater=#2 and can be used any time when plant is stressed, Roots Excelerator (H&G)
Thank you...I don't have access to certain products but thanks to you guys i stepped back and got outside the box. I rethunk some stuff I do and I think I have it figured out.
Since I do not like to Flood roots, I flush/leach (whatever the correct term) with a one of those hose end wands set to the medium strong spray, just enough so that it will churn up the top 1/2 inch of medium. Last night I gave a good dose of bennies, Rapid Start (works as good as RE imo),
Hormex and
Hygrozyme. I watered the DStar to the point so I could check runoff in drip saucer. Fucking 1100 ppm??? WTF i say...then it hits me, the frigging obviousness of it pisses me off at myself. I have flushed them, but as i was saying when i flush i just run about 20 gallons of ph'd 10% nuted (about 150ppm) RO water until the ppm and ph comes down. That is fine but I am guessing that when my shit was getting watched by my partner he nuted em to death or to the point that they need multiple flushes, or I need to put them in the bathtub and submerge them in order to get rid of ALL the excess nutes.
In my thinking, your flush water can only grab so much excess salts plus you need to get the medium to let go of the salts. With big buildups you need to let the medium adjust maybe? CEC wise I mean. So I should have been flushing them and waiting about 8 hours maybe then flushed again. It makes sense because everytime I flushed they would do a semi recovery then slip back... I was getting a drop in runoff ppm's because they flush water would grab what the medium would let go of. I should have waited about an hour, watered to runoff again and rechecked. Yup I am a fucking overthink the problem dumbass.
So, I do not want to submerge the roots in the bathtub, they would take to long to recover and I have to jam as it is that time of the year. So I will keep foliar spraying and start a series of flushes, twice a day then one day off then twice a day. That has to be what the problem is. The clones I took off it are doing fine, so no virus. Everytime I foliar spray the look almost normal for awhile. I use SpraynGro Micronute with CocoWet and Bills Perfect Fertilizer.
Does anyone think that this makes sense? I do have a question, when foliar spraying NPK, can you supply all the plants (mother) needs for awhile, or at least until I get the roots flushed entirely? Also, with using fish/organic based fertilizer either foliar or to the roots, how do the plants get cal/mag?