Neem oil discussion thread (Civilized)

Eledin · Apr 28, 2023

Forgot to mention, I would recommend you swap the dish soap with potassium or phopshoric soap, theyre cheap. Dish soap pesticide solutions have been proven to damage plants and has toxic compounds for you too. The two I mentioned will become food for the plant and leave no toxic residue.

quirk · Apr 28, 2023

I didn't like using the neem for reasons mentioned and switched to Cold pressed Orange Oil. How can you go wrong using the terpene, D-limonene to solve your plant problems.

Eledin · Apr 28, 2023

quirk said:
I didn't like using the neem for reasons mentioned and switched to Cold pressed Orange Oil. How can you go wrong using the terpene, D-limonene to solve your plant problems.

Thanks! Now thats something I could use to replace neem oil. Did a quick research on the stuff and it works for fungus and insects! Perfect for my indoors. A disclaimer that I found tho, if you grow outdoors it will also kill beneficial insects for the enviroment like bees or ladibugs. Instead of destroying bug exoeskeletons it affects the respiratory system of bugs and suffocates them (making it way more broad spectrum against bugs than neem oil) so its not enviromentally friendly in big outdoors or gardens but thats not my case.

Mothman · Apr 28, 2023

Eledin said:
Thats about 5ml per liter compared to 3ml per liter that I use, thats 40% more. Ive read about washing buds for people who grow outdoors and all that dirt that can come out of the plants, but neem oil degrades fairly quickly and gets inside the plant, so it wouldnt really help you with that unless you sprayed it recently and youre gonna smoke it anyway since it will be inside the plant aswell. Its actually nutritious for some beneficial microbes and for the plant, but since its sulfuric compounds it can indeed affect the taste but in theory, based on what I read, not for more than a month, after that everything is normal stored food.

Just a couple of math issues in your last few posts: 3 ml neem oil to a liter (1000 ml) of water is a 0.3% solution, not 3%.

Also, @TSD didnt use 40% more than you did; you used 40% less than she did. She used 67% more than you did.

Not a math teacher, just a stickler for accuracy in this stuff.

Eledin · Apr 28, 2023

Mothman said:
Just a couple of math issues in your last few posts: 3 ml neem oil to a liter (1000 ml) of water is a 0.3% solution, not 3%.

Also, @TSD didnt use 40% more than you did; you used 40% less than she did. She used 67% more than you did.

Not a math teacher, just a stickler for accuracy in this stuff.

Hahaha man I feel stupid, thats basic math... thanks for correcting it. Im finally smoking my last harvest and I can tell its potent...

Mothman · Apr 28, 2023

Eledin said:
Hahaha man I feel stupid, thats basic math... thanks for correcting it. Im finally smoking my last harvest and I can tell its potent...

Excellent idea, it’s almost tea time for me, and by tea I mean Holy Grail Kush.

I’m outta here!

MIGrampaUSA · Apr 28, 2023

Eledin said:
I agree, for bugs I use DE, I only use neem oil when I see suspicious looking spots in the leaves (possible fungus, not spider mites or thrips). It has not happened many times luckily in all my years. I dont know if I never had fungus in my plants because I used neem oil right in time or because Ive been lucky to be honest. Many early symptoms of deficiencies, nute burn, root root, fungus, etc look alike in the early stages.

I use DE as a top dressing on my outdoor crops. It does wonders on any insect that has to crawl through the soil. Neem has always worked well for leaf hoppers and other munching insects that pass by during earlier vegetative growth. I personally would not use Neem for WPM because my issues in past crops always came during fall weather when the buds are trying to finish.

This year, I have a greenhouse sulfur burner. I've run it a few times already in my currently empty greenhouse. I have not run it with plants in it yet.

TrichomeLicker · Apr 28, 2023

If any of ya got thrips no worries my friend,leave da neem on the store shelf.

I've found that thrip poop actually provides a nice earthy aroma and taste to your buds. Give it a try....you won't be disappointed!!!

MIGrampaUSA · Apr 28, 2023

Eledin said:
Forgot to mention, I would recommend you swap the dish soap with potassium or phopshoric soap, theyre cheap. Dish soap pesticide solutions have been proven to damage plants and has toxic compounds for you too. The two I mentioned will become food for the plant and leave no toxic residue.

I use coco-wet as an organic wetting agent.

Eledin · Apr 28, 2023

MIGrampaUSA said:
I use coco-wet as an organic wetting agent.

Thanks! Ill look into it, I did a quick search and its basically a type of coconut oil right?

MIGrampaUSA · Apr 28, 2023

Eledin said:
Thanks! Ill look into it, I did a quick search and its basically a type of coconut oil right?

It's not coconut oil ... although it is made from a reaction involving coconut oil. I'm not a chemist so I don't know the process. I did a quick google search and got a few answers.

Edit: I thought I should clarify something ... I don't use coco-wet as a root drench. I use a few drops when I mix up a folliar feed (usually epsom salts or cal mag) to help break the surface tension of the water so that the spray spreads thin and doesn't bead up as much.

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