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Dear Mr McCormick. This is in reference to your 4/30/19 thcfarmer article about Neville's passing and start of Operation Green Merchant. However, your focus is on Ray Cogo, who you describe as a snitch who turned in Neville. The basis for your assertions are the 1990 and 1994 Prosecutors affidavits supporting indictment of Neville, Chas. Frink and others, and the affidavit of Mr. Cogo. Theres no question that Cogo cooperated under threat of prosecution in the 1990 indictment of Nevil. But the fact is that Neville was a prime DEA focus when OGM began in 1987, long before any information from Cogo. Agents had purchased multiple seed orders thru the High Times ads. There were several grow busts and the defendants admitted their seed source. Next, Neville was never brought to the US, his cases were dismissed and he died of natural causes. At the same time, you insinuate that Cogo's disclosures led to untold arrests and prosecutions of hydroponic store customers who had also purchased from seed bank. The affidavit of agent Pike indicates the DEA was well aware of all the seed bank orders, and had been monitoring their activities, alerted by Neville's high times interviews. And by 1994 the DEA was after high times, Hagar testified before a grand jury and a judge ruled it's ads werent protected by the first amendment. Apparently while possible, there's no direct link between whatever lists Cogo kept or turned over, and any prosecutions of any other person's outside of the 1990 indictment. Any grow stores customers were fair game independent of the lists.
So while you villify Cogo you lionize Neville, despite the fact that he was not a savory character, and was deeply involved with law enforcement himself, as to the heroin traffic in Holland.
Your opinion is one thing but you attempt to represent conclusion without real facts or evidence is mere speculation. And when you refer to Cogo as a snitch, it may well be considered libel, as well as economic disparagement to his lawfully owned brand of liquid plant nutrients. Please review what is available and consider your further clarification and retraction.
You assume that Cogo turned over the full lists of 11000 orders, which would be approximately 360 pages, not 8, but this is speculation. You say it's impossible to determine how many growers were busted by DEA stalking grow stores, yet guess that many can blame Cogo. Further you say, What is more alarming is that the DEA agents already had the addresses of the people who received the seeds during the time that Cogo was responsible for sending them. So despite your sadness for Nevil's passing, your blame to Cogo is unjustified in light of the DEA activities in monitoring the seed bank, hitimes, as well as grow shop customers.
Do you seriously think that the DEA wasnt all over every transmission and mailing from Nevil? That they weren't watching grow shops and their customers regardless of Cogo? And don't you ever wonder about the roles of Rosenthal Watson and hitimes in the whole outgrow the government scam to identify and lead the market?
Finally, Todd, you disparage Mr Cogo for his lawful acquisition of the original formulas from Frink. So Nevil the junkie bond skipping international criminal is a hero and Cogos a rat. What would you do when you're set up, busted and jailed, when your friends are in cahoots with your other friends to cut you out and take it all back? And threatened with prosecution and 30 years in prison? Are you such a goomba that you say omerta? Maybe you should contact Mr Cogo and find out what really happened. You are such a fine author; it may be better for all for you to write an honest chapter. And then you can post his pictures with his permission. Or are you so foolish as to not be potentially liable for your disparagement of his economic interests, as well as your false and misleading posts.
We can discuss this further if you wish. I am a pot lawyer and friend of Cogo for many years. His products are the finest available. Your sniping is unwarranted.
Also "Flybear", I find it funny you are using an alias name and claiming to be an attorney while pushing Cogo's nutrients on this forum.
Hiding something are you?
you claim i turned all lists over June 89. Where does you get that?With all due respect to you too sir, I will let the facts speak for themselves.
People can do as I have done and read the indictments and affidavit themselves and come to their own conclusions based on the information therein.
Cogo was paid by not being prosecuted.
Cogo may have also been paid as a DEA informant (it is common).
Cogo may also have received a percentage of the forfeitures that stemmed from the address that he turned over to the DEA, that then the DEA went and raided starting on Oct 26th, 1989.
11,000 packs of seeds, must have gone out to a lot of addresses, all of which became targets of the DEA. BECAUSE Cogo SAVED THE ADDRESSES AND TURNED THEM ALL OVER TO THE DEA IN JUNE ON 1989.
It was because his cooperation was so beneficial to the DEA, that he was not prosecuted.
How many people who were raided in the 46 states, just 5 months after Cogo turned over the entire customer list from his 18 months of sending seeds for The Holland Seed Bank, do you think ordered seeds that were sent by Cogo?
How many of the people who received seeds mailed to them by Cogo between Jan 1988, and June of 1989, were raided by the DEA, and had their families destroyed, their dogs shot, and who were prosecuted and went to prison?
Cogo has blood on his hands, and is he a horrible example of the backstabbing, double-dealing people who were tools in a very disgusting system of injustice.
If you call him a friend of yours, it says volumes about you.
Todd is this how it went? hey honey lets travel to Holland to meet Nevil who is on the run lets get seeds so i can start a 4000 plant grow in Ronald Reagan neighborhood? dont worry honey that wont draw attention to us we have all the money we need Mr Williams will just give it to me because im special? Todd really?you claim i turned all lists over June 89. Where does you get that?
How many people How many people?? you doesn't know. Just inflammation
Maybe it brings attention, better or worse I don't think my posts are unreasonable, and Todd you only show yourAnimus attitude and blame to me assumed.
Your kind of journalism is a big problem. You say whatever, out of context, bending meanings. Think punch not slap
you are just setting yourself up for economic disparagement if your posts have causal to lost sales... how ever i wouldn't how i could collect since you dont have a income and just borrow money from other people that actually do something with their life... before it was Williams you sucked off who do you have now in your loser career? just fucking kill yourself and do everyone a favor
what says volumes about you todd is your yellow journalism whats wrong no body know who you are? you went to see Nevil to get seeds to grow 4000plants in belair? in Ronald Reagan neighborhood? really todd that wont draw attention will it? in fact you had all those counter culture low lifes coming there now how do we no your not a godamn spook setting people up? in fact isn't that what you where doing its the same mo as hightimes.....get a life get a fucking jobWith all due respect to you too sir, I will let the facts speak for themselves.
People can do as I have done and read the indictments and affidavit themselves and come to their own conclusions based on the information therein.
Cogo was paid by not being prosecuted.
Cogo may have also been paid as a DEA informant (it is common).
Cogo may also have received a percentage of the forfeitures that stemmed from the address that he turned over to the DEA, that then the DEA went and raided starting on Oct 26th, 1989.
11,000 packs of seeds, must have gone out to a lot of addresses, all of which became targets of the DEA. BECAUSE Cogo SAVED THE ADDRESSES AND TURNED THEM ALL OVER TO THE DEA IN JUNE ON 1989.
It was because his cooperation was so beneficial to the DEA, that he was not prosecuted.
How many people who were raided in the 46 states, just 5 months after Cogo turned over the entire customer list from his 18 months of sending seeds for The Holland Seed Bank, do you think ordered seeds that were sent by Cogo?
How many of the people who received seeds mailed to them by Cogo between Jan 1988, and June of 1989, were raided by the DEA, and had their families destroyed, their dogs shot, and who were prosecuted and went to prison?
Cogo has blood on his hands, and is he a horrible example of the backstabbing, double-dealing people who were tools in a very disgusting system of injustice.
If you call him a friend of yours, it says volumes about you.
what says volumes about you todd is your yellow journalism whats wrong no body know who you are? you went to see Nevil to get seeds to grow 4000plants in belair? in Ronald Reagan neighborhood? really todd that wont draw attention will it? in fact you had all those counter culture low lifes coming there now how do we no your not a godamn spook setting people up? in fact isn't that what you where doing its the same mo as hightimes.....get a life get a fucking job
and on top of it you took phoDear Mr McCormick. This is in reference to your 4/30/19 thcfarmer article about Neville's passing and start of Operation Green Merchant. However, your focus is on Ray Cogo, who you describe as a snitch who turned in Neville. The basis for your assertions are the 1990 and 1994 Prosecutors affidavits supporting indictment of Neville, Chas. Frink and others, and the affidavit of Mr. Cogo. Theres no question that Cogo cooperated under threat of prosecution in the 1990 indictment of Nevil. But the fact is that Neville was a prime DEA focus when OGM began in 1987, long before any information from Cogo. Agents had purchased multiple seed orders thru the High Times ads. There were several grow busts and the defendants admitted their seed source. Next, Neville was never brought to the US, his cases were dismissed and he died of natural causes. At the same time, you insinuate that Cogo's disclosures led to untold arrests and prosecutions of hydroponic store customers who had also purchased from seed bank. The affidavit of agent Pike indicates the DEA was well aware of all the seed bank orders, and had been monitoring their activities, alerted by Neville's high times interviews. And by 1994 the DEA was after high times, Hagar testified before a grand jury and a judge ruled it's ads werent protected by the first amendment. Apparently while possible, there's no direct link between whatever lists Cogo kept or turned over, and any prosecutions of any other person's outside of the 1990 indictment. Any grow stores customers were fair game independent of the lists.
So while you villify Cogo you lionize Neville, despite the fact that he was not a savory character, and was deeply involved with law enforcement himself, as to the heroin traffic in Holland.
Your opinion is one thing but you attempt to represent conclusion without real facts or evidence is mere speculation. And when you refer to Cogo as a snitch, it may well be considered libel, as well as economic disparagement to his lawfully owned brand of liquid plant nutrients. Please review what is available and consider your further clarification and retraction.
You assume that Cogo turned over the full lists of 11000 orders, which would be approximately 360 pages, not 8, but this is speculation. You say it's impossible to determine how many growers were busted by DEA stalking grow stores, yet guess that many can blame Cogo. Further you say, What is more alarming is that the DEA agents already had the addresses of the people who received the seeds during the time that Cogo was responsible for sending them. So despite your sadness for Nevil's passing, your blame to Cogo is unjustified in light of the DEA activities in monitoring the seed bank, hitimes, as well as grow shop customers.
Do you seriously think that the DEA wasnt all over every transmission and mailing from Nevil? That they weren't watching grow shops and their customers regardless of Cogo? And don't you ever wonder about the roles of Rosenthal Watson and hitimes in the whole outgrow the government scam to identify and lead the market?
Finally, Todd, you disparage Mr Cogo for his lawful acquisition of the original formulas from Frink. So Nevil the junkie bond skipping international criminal is a hero and Cogos a rat. What would you do when you're set up, busted and jailed, when your friends are in cahoots with your other friends to cut you out and take it all back? And threatened with prosecution and 30 years in prison? Are you such a goomba that you say omerta? Maybe you should contact Mr Cogo and find out what really happened. You are such a fine author; it may be better for all for you to write an honest chapter. And then you can post his pictures with his permission. Or are you so foolish as to not be potentially liable for your disparagement of his economic interests, as well as your false and misleading posts.
We can discuss this further if you wish. I am a pot lawyer and friend of Cogo for many years. His products are the finest available. Your sniping is unwarranted.
Todd you didn't uncover anything you would actually have to work at it which we all know is something you dont do ...nothing has been sealed since 1989 i left it open on purpose. your yellow journalism has been exposed since you fail to answer anything asked of you...you write as contradictory as steve hagar you are not a journalist you are a opportunist and now you been hired to slander me . you just string things together at your convenience. your first article was a cut and paste of Steve Hagar cannabis castle article even the story in the now defunct remainders magazine told anyone that was listening what was happening with seed sales ...which by the way didn't say anything different than my affidavit you even state in your own article "whats even more shocking is that the DEA already had the customer list even while cogo was sending....Todd you lie and you are a thief you even had to use my pictures without permission....and son no one likes you no matter how good you think your yellow journalism is...its for children.You must be Ray Cogo - I can tell from that fact that you can not construct a sentence, never mind a paragraph. I saw your similarly stupid remarks on Facebook, and there is no way that two people can write as bad as you do.
You never imagined that your affidavit would someday come back to expose you, but thanks to the internet, we see you Cogo, and the internet will never forget.
There is no proof that the DEA had any of the addresses from The Holland Seeds Bank before you gave them to the DEA in June of 1989.
Go crawl under a rock Cogo - the internet has exposed you for what you did to so many.
I hope you have nightmares for the evil you have inflicted onto the cannabis cultivation community.
11,000 packs of seeds, must have gone out to a lot of addresses, all of which became targets of the DEA. BECAUSE Cogo SAVED THE ADDRESSES AND TURNED THEM ALL OVER TO THE DEA IN JUNE ON 1989. thats a lie i turned 8 pages over to the irs get it straight son....i only signed one affidavit that was in 1990 my 1990 affidavit was added to the 1994 affidavit now i handed in 8 pages the rest were destroyed so where did the 11000 come from? the statement came from the dea even the prosecutors affidavit has 30 names only 6 of which was in the 8 pages...todd learn to read seems you have a similar pattern in the hit story about you when u accuse imler of snitching...the fact is even in your last smear against me you state ...With all due respect to you too sir, I will let the facts speak for themselves.
People can do as I have done and read the indictments and affidavit themselves and come to their own conclusions based on the information therein.
Cogo was paid by not being prosecuted.
Cogo may have also been paid as a DEA informant (it is common).
Cogo may also have received a percentage of the forfeitures that stemmed from the address that he turned over to the DEA, that then the DEA went and raided starting on Oct 26th, 1989.
11,000 packs of seeds, must have gone out to a lot of addresses, all of which became targets of the DEA. BECAUSE Cogo SAVED THE ADDRESSES AND TURNED THEM ALL OVER TO THE DEA IN JUNE ON 1989.
It was because his cooperation was so beneficial to the DEA, that he was not prosecuted.
How many people who were raided in the 46 states, just 5 months after Cogo turned over the entire customer list from his 18 months of sending seeds for The Holland Seed Bank, do you think ordered seeds that were sent by Cogo?
How many of the people who received seeds mailed to them by Cogo between Jan 1988, and June of 1989, were raided by the DEA, and had their families destroyed, their dogs shot, and who were prosecuted and went to prison?
Cogo has blood on his hands, and is he a horrible example of the backstabbing, double-dealing people who were tools in a very disgusting system of injustice.
If you call him a friend of yours, it says volumes about you.
11,000 packs of seeds, must have gone out to a lot of addresses, all of which became targets of the DEA. BECAUSE Cogo SAVED THE ADDRESSES AND TURNED THEM ALL OVER TO THE DEA IN JUNE ON 1989. thats a lie i turned 8 pages son....i only signed one affidavit that was in 1990 my 1990 affidavit was added to the 1994 affidavit now i handed in 8 pages the rest were destroyed so where did the 11000 come from? the statement came from the dea even the prosecutors affidavit has 30 names only 6 of which was in the 8 pages...todd learn to read seems you have a similar pattern in the hit story about you when u accuse imler of snitching...the fact is even in your last smear against me you state ...
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What is more alarming is that the DEA agents already had the addresses of the people who received the seeds during the time that Cogo was responsible for sending them. By knowing who the growers were, it was simply a matter of following them to their local gardening shop and implicating the garden store owners as conspirators in the manufacture of a controlled substance. WTF are you retarded?
and on top of it you took pho
you even had to use my pictures without permission....
i crawl into a warm bed every night ...all information has been public for a long time ..and i have a successful product line. And Todd you dont speak for anyone but yourself .The so called cultivation community is something like the majority of egotistical narcissist like yourself make up in your head. And Todd all those bust that you listed on this sight were attributed by the government culling high times magazine. That...is in the Washington post and NY timesYou must be Ray Cogo - I can tell from that fact that you can not construct a sentence, never mind a paragraph. I saw your similarly stupid remarks on Facebook, and there is no way that two people can write as bad as you do.
You never imagined that your affidavit would someday come back to expose you, but thanks to the internet, we see you Cogo, and the internet will never forget.
There is no proof that the DEA had any of the addresses from The Holland Seeds Bank before you gave them to the DEA in June of 1989.
Go crawl under a rock Cogo - the internet has exposed you for what you did to so many.
I hope you have nightmares for the evil you have inflicted onto the cannabis cultivation community.
Todd McCormick likes to gain sympathy from people because of a child hood illness Todd like to use “cancer” as the illness however his illness isn’t cancer it is cancer like…im sorry “cancer like is not cancer” you either have cancer or you don’t.You must be Ray Cogo - I can tell from that fact that you can not construct a sentence, never mind a paragraph. I saw your similarly stupid remarks on Facebook, and there is no way that two people can write as bad as you do.
You never imagined that your affidavit would someday come back to expose you, but thanks to the internet, we see you Cogo, and the internet will never forget.
There is no proof that the DEA had any of the addresses from The Holland Seeds Bank before you gave them to the DEA in June of 1989.
Go crawl under a rock Cogo - the internet has exposed you for what you did to so many.
I hope you have nightmares for the evil you have inflicted onto the cannabis cultivation community.
Toad you dont have any connection between any list and any prosecutions out side of Louisiana area. Toad you are slanderous verbal and libel is published. You have no remorse to pummel me as bad guy for Nevil and anyone that got caught in OGM on ambiguous assertions that i turned over list of all 11,000. When two interpretations of anything are equally plausible, to claim one true the other false without independent verification is dishonest. Toad u are not a journalist, you dont care about truth you are just going after me. You show your true colors when you go beyond claim on list, to claim connection between them and all the OGM bust. You are reckless with disregard of any truth and with Animus to me and my brand. which is libel actionable on proof of damages, economic or to my reputation. Like Steve Hagar you wrap a kernel of truth inside layers of lies. Toad you are egotistical who has been lieing so long you cant see truth.I KNEW IT AS YOU COGO!
Haha - go cry to the DEA.
You are a horrible human and you should have paid attention in English class.
The internet will never forget what you did - your own words in your affidavit will haunt you till the day you die.
You led the DEA to these growers and we all know it! Their blood is on you Cogo - and you know it.
During a two-week period beginning on October 26, 1989, the DEA raided gardening centers and private homes in 46 states. The results of that first phase of Green Merchant -- released on November 9, 1989 -- were:
o 377 arrests of private citizens for marijuana cultivation;
o 42,677 marijuana plants seized (the Justice Department counts unsprouted seeds in soil as marijuana plants);
o 875 pounds of packaged marijuana seized;
o 5 pounds of mushrooms seized;
o 280 indoor grow-sites seized;
o 19 stores and warehouses seized;
o 11 store owners arrested (8 store owners had their businesses seized without being charged of any criminal activity);
o $7,318,000 in total assets seized.
o 19 stores closed down: 7 stores forfeited, 11 currently under forfeiture litigation, 1 store no explanation;
o 16 store owners arrested;
o $9,208,928 in total assets seized.
(No new statistics on either quantities of packaged marijuana or other illegal substances seized.)
The Operation was far from over. During the past 18 months the DEA has continued its Green Merchant investigations. The most recent figures -- released by the Justice Department on February 1, 1991 -- are:
o 443 arrests of private citizens for marijuana cultivation;
o 50,794 marijuana plants seized (including unsprouted seeds in soil);
o 358 indoor grow-sites seized;
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