New growth problems in veg.

[datguy417]

What could be causing this issue with my new growth. This is dry amendment run PH around 6.4, temps 74, rh 55%. My light intensity was 75% but went down to 65% to see if that would resolve the issue.

 

[capone304]

To much worm castings or the led light

 

[capone304]

To much worm castings or the led light

I had the same issues with mineand I. Pretty sure it was like light

 

[Captspaulding]

All right man so check it out. You should never veg above 40% output on any given light these days right trust me. I’ve used every type of panel out there by every major brand that’s around and legit dude I keep all of my lights 30 to 36 inches above my canopy and veg and like 26 to 30 in flower if anything you need to be boosting your plants closer to the light instead of dropping your light down to one plant if you just go ahead and you pay attention and boost plants close your lights if you need it as opposed to adjusting it downward, you’ll have much greater success less stress equals more growth. So check it out what’s happening with your plan is is it starting to twist a bit with the new growth and leaves laying down that’s leaves hiding from your 65% output you’re overdosing them. You really need to turn your light down and raise it to a higher height. I can post pictures if you don’t believe me dude like I run all of my fucking canopies that way, and it may sound counterintuitive from the things you’ve read online, but trust me

 

[Captspaulding]

All right man so check it out. You should never veg above 40% output on any given light these days right trust me. I’ve used every type of panel out there by every major brand that’s around and legit dude I keep all of my lights 30 to 36 inches above my canopy and veg and like 26 to 30 in flour if anything you need to be boosting your plants closer to the light instead of dropping your light down to one plant this will allow your plant to harden off to the light for a few days and then you can turn it up a little bit and see whether or not the plants gonna stress by the light or you need to let it sit at its current setting for a few more days with your newly boosted plant you catch my drift. It’s all about keeping stress as low as possible in this game redlining everything is not the way to do this shit when you’re learniso pay attention and boost plants close your lights if you need it as opposed to adjusting it downward, you’ll have much greater success less stress equals more growth. So check it out what’s happening with your plant is it starting to twist a bit with the new growth and leaves are laying down that’s leaves hiding from your 65% output you’re overdosing them. You really need to turn your light down and raise it to a higher height. I can post pictures if you don’t believe me dude like I run all canopies that way, and it may sound counterintuitive the things you’ve read online, but trust me

 

[capone304]

I'm in flower now and have my lights up as high as they can go ziptied to the top of my tent my gorilla pie is 8 inches from the light what % should I have my light on photone says I'm at 850 ppfd at 60% I have two bloom plus xp1500s I know that light is the cause of my issues on top of a pH lockout I had I just want her to be able to fish without roasting my main cola

 

[Budtirement]

All right man so check it out. You should never veg above 40% output on any given light these days right trust me. I’ve used every type of panel out there by every major brand that’s around and legit dude I keep all of my lights 30 to 36 inches above my canopy and veg and like 26 to 30 in flour if anything you need to be boosting your plants closer to the light instead of dropping your light down to one plant if you just go ahead and you pay attention and boost plants close your lights if you need it as opposed to adjusting it downward, you’ll have much greater success less stress equals more growth. So check it out what’s happening with your plan is is it starting to twist a bit with the new growth and believes you’re laying down that’s leaves hiding from your 65% output you’re overdosing them. You really need to turn your light down and raise it to a higher height. I can post pictures if you don’t believe me dude like I run all of my fucking canopies that way, and it may sound counterintuitive the things you’ve read online, but trust me

Your plants are a veggin’ but they’re lookin’ kinda pale

Your head scratchin’s over, if you listen you won’t fail

Captspaulding has the answer to the trouble in your tent

Stop turnin’ up your light, now his message has been sent



a percentage set to forty will nix that yellow mange

Less is more of what you want, so keep it in this range

boost your patience not the dial, in a week you will know

Captspaulding shares the answer, now get on with your grow




Okay, Budtirement obviously has plenty of good weed and time on his hands, but he is grateful for excellent advice.

 

[Captspaulding]

I'm in flower now and have my lights up as high as they can go ziptied to the top of my tent my gorilla pie is 8 inches from the light what % should I have my light on photone says I'm at 850 ppfd at 60% I have two bloom plus xp1500s I know that light is the cause of my issues on top of a pH lockout I had I just want her to be able to fish without roasting my main cola

So check it out, man I’ve finished runs out with my output on my lamps as low as 45%. It just really depends on the cultivar that you’re growing and how well it can deal with light intensity. Some phenos can be more pesky than others, which means that it’s you know also a genetic problem where you could have one phenotype have no absolutely no problem with the light, but then from the same batch plants and seeds, another phenotype just gets its ass kick the entire grow. Nowadays, man, I swear 95% of the problems that people run into if their indoor growers is the LED light intensity situation and it’s proximity as well relative to the canopy of your plant dialing in these newer lights is a lot easier than you may think it’s simply just hanging your light a lot higher than you think. It should be at a lot lower of output than you think. It should have as well. That way if you start to see the plant stretch and nodes get too far away from each other then you know turn up the output a little bit don’t start with everything at the highest settings for whatever stage of growth. Everything is in start low and work up to it. That’s why we call it dialing it in And the same thing applies with nutrient regimen. Always start with the lowest dose possible and give the plants nourishment, but if they start the bitch and want more, it’s a lot easier to feed a hungry plant than it is to cure an overdose plant while trying to tow the line and keep it fed as well.
Now there’s a really simple solution to your main cola as well and that’s super cropping. I super crop in flower all the time if I have an unruly plant that stretched ass off and has itself a little bit too close to light you don’t need no Icarus buds. Heres a bid on how to do it. Or you can just dk some super low stress chiropractic bending of the attached stalk, to bend the cola out of the way and tiie it down, stake ect…… now with this video that I’m attaching just realize that now that you’re firmly in flower with that thing that if you do choose the super crop it, you have to pay extra attention when you’re rolling your fingers back-and-forth on the stock that you’re trying to pinch over to a 90° bend that you’re not ripping into the flesh of it and you know causing undue damage while you’re trying to fix your situation and be patient with it roll your fingers back-and-forth and feel the fibers crush and very gradually put more pressure on every time you rub your fingers back-and-forth pay attention to how the fibers are feeling then you can get a really really clean bend and it’s like no stress. It actually improves uptake to that top
While opening up that particular cola to more light on a larger part of the bud, the side profile provides way more surface area to a light than the top profile of a bud. Super cropping has multiple pluses and is a necessary tool for your future endevours
Phlockout you say? Mind explaining what you are talkjng about a little? Water source get serviced? Think you used to much nutes? You in soil?

 

[DillyTrying2Learn]

All right man so check it out. You should never veg above 40% output on any given light these days right trust me. I’ve used every type of panel out there by every major brand that’s around and legit dude I keep all of my lights 30 to 36 inches above my canopy and veg and like 26 to 30 in flour if anything you need to be boosting your plants closer to the light instead of dropping your light down to one plant if you just go ahead and you pay attention and boost plants close your lights if you need it as opposed to adjusting it downward, you’ll have much greater success less stress equals more growth. So check it out what’s happening with your plan is is it starting to twist a bit with the new growth and believes you’re laying down that’s leaves hiding from your 65% output you’re overdosing them. You really need to turn your light down and raise it to a higher height. I can post pictures if you don’t believe me dude like I run all of my fucking canopies that way, and it may sound counterintuitive the things you’ve read online, but trust me

I run my light at 60-70% in veg but it's 4-5ft above the canopy.

 

[Captspaulding]

I run my light at 60-70% in veg but it's 4-5ft above the canopy.

Hey man, I seen that scenario where you could do that the only thing that I can think of that would be a detriment and that approach is the fact that once you cross over the 50% line output wise generally the lamps will start ramping in the other wavelength of color with the blues and the red, you know so you might be overdosing the plant or stressing it slighlywith a color wavelength It doesn’t necessarily need too much of at the time but besides that you know, fuck yeah dude I’d probably do the same exact shit And the situation. I just spoke about above. You know I actually deal with that sometimes when I do a over under rig indoors because light proximity and plant canopy proximity relative to the light becomes an issue. Depending on how I’m operating my rig or what kind of set up on messing with I’ll have them a really really good clip away from my canopies too. I just boost plants if they need more light. Instead of adjusting the light height ever so there are times when I have low flying plants and shit like that that I’ve kind of trimmed out to be more flat and short than tall and you know stalky Yeah they can definitely be the 4 1/2 maybe even 5 feet in between them at times. Howdy btw!

 

[Captspaulding]

I run my light at 60-70% in veg but it's 4-5ft above the canopy.

And I know that’s not right from seedling when it makes the transition into full veg you kind of work your way up to that through the veg process. I take it

 

[DillyTrying2Learn]

All right man so check it out. You should never veg above 40% output on any given light these days right trust me. I’ve used every type of panel out there by every major brand that’s around and legit dude I keep all of my lights 30 to 36 inches above my canopy and veg and like 26 to 30 in flour if anything you need to be boosting your plants closer to the light instead of dropping your light down to one plant if you just go ahead and you pay attention and boost plants close your lights if you need it as opposed to adjusting it downward, you’ll have much greater success less stress equals more growth. So check it out what’s happening with your plan is is it starting to twist a bit with the new growth and believes you’re laying down that’s leaves hiding from your 65% output you’re overdosing them. You really need to turn your light down and raise it to a higher height. I can post pictures if you don’t believe me dude like I run all of my fucking canopies that way, and it may sound counterintuitive the things you’ve read online, but trust me

I run my light at 60-70% in veg but it's 4-5ft above the canopy

And I know that’s not right from seedling when it makes the transition into full veg you kind of work your way up to that through the veg process. I take it

Of course I don't start it at 1 but by the time I'm flipping to flower I'm at 70%.

 

[Captspaulding]

I run my light at 60-70% in veg but it's 4-5ft above the canopy

Of course I don't start it at 1 but by the time I'm flipping to flower I'm at 70%.

Bro, you’d be surprised then I’m not saying you’re that guy or anything but yo, there’s a lot of growers who go scorched earth first I meant no offense homie. Just had to make sure.

 

[DillyTrying2Learn]

Bro, you’d be surprised then I’m not saying you’re that guy or anything but yo, there’s a lot of growers who go scorched earth first I meant no offense homie. Just had to make sure.

No I'm just lazy and leave my light all the way at the top and adjust as they tell me they need the best I can.

 

[capone304]

So check it out, man I’ve finished runs out with my output on my lamps as low as 45%. It just really depends on the cultivar that you’re growing and how well it can deal with light intensity. Some phenos can be more pesky than others, which means that it’s you know also a genetic problem where you could have one phenotype have no absolutely no problem with the light, but then from the same batch plants and seeds, another phenotype just gets its ass kick the entire grow. Nowadays, man, I swear 95% of the problems that people run into if their indoor growers is the LED light intensity situation and it’s proximity as well relative to the canopy of your plant dialing in these newer lights is a lot easier than you may think it’s simply just hanging your light a lot higher than you think. It should be at a lot lower of output than you think. It should have as well. That way if you start to see the plant stretch and nodes get too far away from each other then you know turn up the output a little bit don’t start with everything at the highest settings for whatever stage of growth. Everything is in start low and work up to it. That’s why we call it dialing it in And the same thing applies with nutrient regimen. Always start with the lowest dose possible and give the plants nourishment, but if they start the bitch and want more, it’s a lot easier to feed a hungry plant than it is to cure an overdose plant while trying to tow the line and keep it fed as well.
Now there’s a really simple solution to your main cola as well and that’s super cropping. I super crop in flower all the time if I have an unruly plant that stretched ass off and has itself a little bit too close to light you don’t need no Icarus buds. Heres a bid on how to do it. Or you can just dk some super low stress chiropractic bending of the attached stalk, to bend the cola out of the way and tiie it down, stake ect…… now with this video that I’m attaching just realize that now that you’re firmly in flower with that thing that if you do choose the super crop it, you have to pay extra attention when you’re rolling your fingers back-and-forth on the stock that you’re trying to pinch over to a 90° bend that you’re not ripping into the flesh of it and you know causing undue damage while you’re trying to fix your situation and be patient with it roll your fingers back-and-forth and feel the fibers crush and very gradually put more pressure on every time you rub your fingers back-and-forth pay attention to how the fibers are feeling then you can get a really really clean bend and it’s like no stress. It actually improves uptake to that top
While opening up that particular cola to more light on a larger part of the bud, the side profile provides way more surface area to a light than the top profile of a bud. Super cropping has multiple pluses and is a necessary tool for your future endevours
Phlockout you say? Mind explaining what you are talkjng about a little? Water source get serviced? Think you used to much nutes? You in soil?

I used 25% worm castings it's my first ever indoor run and also used heavy synthetic nutrients and my soil turned mad acidic my buddy who is also a friend of your helped me figure the problem out we just started feeding at 7.0 and it fixed her issues @Thatoneguyyouknow_ has been a blessing to have as a friend

 

[capone304]

I used 25% worm castings it's my first ever indoor run and also used heavy synthetic nutrients and my soil turned mad acidic my buddy who is also a friend of yours helped me figure the problem out we just started feeding at 7.0 and it fixed her issues @Thatoneguyyouknow_ has been a blessing to have as a friend

 

[Captspaulding]

I used 25% worm castings it's my first ever indoor run and also used heavy synthetic nutrients and my soil turned mad acidic my buddy who is also a friend of your helped me figure the problem out we just started feeding at 7.0 and it fixed her issues @Thatoneguyyouknow_ has been a blessing to have as a friend

That dude is built ford tough

 

[capone304]

That dude is built ford tough

Lol 100% he's the man he's getting rdy to video call me n help me trim this cman okie up n get her rdy for flip Shea been veging since Sept 22nd lol we are gonna let my gorilla pie auto finish under 12/12

 

[capone304]

Look at that busy gd mess @Captspaulding