new to growing mmj grow op.need help.

shagfrag · Apr 27, 2011

hey i'm new to growing and thcfarmer.i have a grow tent 4x4x6 with dwc stand alone 18 gls. with 400wt mh light. so far i have cns17 grow and bloom and liquid karma nutrients and i'm in my 3rd week of vege. what nutrients should i use and i really Want to get as much info as i can.also this is a mmj grow op. please respond asap thx for your time.if you would like pics please ask.

here are some pics of my setup

smokestack23 · Apr 27, 2011

Well..depending on your medium and methods, just about any of the quality nutrients will give wicked results...GH, H&G, AN..

You're here asking questions so that's a good start. I'm not familiar with the nutes you mentioned so pretty much all I can add is..
Use the search button and read all you can here and at other sites/forums. This is an ever changing hobby and even the old pros learn something new all the time.

Continue the way you're going and you should be fine. The trick is to always keep low expectations so you won't be too disappointed..only happily surprised. Start slow like you are and continue to expand as you go. Knowledge is the best weapon..followed by feel and keeping it simple.

That formula works for a lot of people.

Good luck and PEACE!

Highdrophilia27 · Apr 27, 2011

Any hydro grow and bloom nutes will work. Just make sure you keep track of the PH and PPM.

shagfrag · Apr 27, 2011

here are some pics.

please comment and give advice ask any questions i want to absorb all and any knowledge all i do all day is sit at home and play games,get medicated and now i want to occupy my time by growing my own meds.

what is in the pics is diamond og (2) platinum og (2) and a vanilla kush (1)
i know i should have stuck to just one strain but i'm a noob what can i say lol

motherlode · Apr 27, 2011

cns 17 is a good line to get your feet wet with - a few of the newb grower patients Im helping are using it with good results along with some mag-i-cal (cal/mag additive) which is extremely important in dwc if your using filtered water or growing og type strains

I really like botanicare products with the exception of cal/mag - to me its very harsh, inconsistent and sometimes doesn't play nice with other nutrients

being in dwc it wont hurt to get yourself some aquashield to keep things clean and healthy

shagfrag · Apr 27, 2011

so all i need is a an additive that gives it cal/mag can you suggest any good ones.anything else i might need other then the cal/mag and aquashield?what about silica blast.and i'm using tap water at the moment i was going to switch the water asap tryin to get them in a smaller dwc setup so be easier on res. changes.

motherlode · Apr 27, 2011

when I first posted your pics werent showing up

that pic of the roots is not good - those should be nice white roots

what is your water temp? those might be a lost casue if they all look like that and you cant keep you water temps under 70

honestly youd be better off with coco or something if you cant hit the 66-70 water temp target

hiboy · Apr 27, 2011

Good eye m lode. Saw those dark strands also. Is it too late for zone when they are that far gone. Im still running tables so im unsure about that one.

hiboy

motherlode · Apr 27, 2011

tough to say - I never had to fight the rot in my UC

maybe some hydrofungacide or even some physan 20

the rot could be caused by overfeeding, light getting into the res or temp or all of the above

dwc is not the most forgiving - let me rephrase that

dwc is the least forgiving way to grow

Highdrophilia27 · Apr 27, 2011

Sometimes the nutrients stain the roots and looks like root rot. Are the nutrients dark brown?

motherlode · Apr 27, 2011

sorry but that is clearly not stain

roots clumped together covered in slimy greenish brown with bits of white poking out

if they were stained they would be colored consistently

shagfrag · Apr 27, 2011

yeah but when i rinse the roots with water they look fine they look white i thinks its the nutes getting on them and highdrophilia yes the liquid karma is dark brown but i read that you can use it on the leaves is that better to do cuz if so ill do my regular week flush tmrw and cut it out.

shagfrag · Apr 27, 2011

oh forgot i have a res heater set at 68 so i'm guessing that my temp lol

shagfrag · Apr 27, 2011

roots look good

heres a pic of todays roots look way better i think i was just freaking out lol.

also whats going down here i'm doing LST on the one platinum og and i cracked the stack is that bad.

hiboy · Apr 27, 2011

Yah def. brown.
Im scared to start my UC now. I can see myself looking at brownish in the future. My top fed tables are producing so well now. Figure a run or two will be disappointing.
hiboy

smokestack23 · Apr 28, 2011

Woah photos now.

Yeah you got some serious root issues. You gotta keep your tote covered so NO light gets in. Use that silver insulation or aluminum tape.
You do NOT need a res HEATER...well...unless your temps are really really low.
You do have airstones in there right?

How do your roots smell? If like nothing then you probably have brown algae. You'll need beneficial bacteria and fungii to get rid of that. I can't remember if Physan works on brown algae.

The thing with the brown algae is that it doesnt need light and will grow in well aerated solutions.
Keep your temps low and DON'T use organic anything in your res. DO get some DM Zone and SM-90.

IVIars · Apr 28, 2011

How high is your water level?

shagfrag · Apr 28, 2011

naw everybody roots are fine dudes i have a pic from yesterday there nice and whit.also doing a res change and dropping them in to smaller totes.5 gallons to be exact.i have to 2 12 in airstones but no water pump to agitate it.

Mmmmasonite · Apr 28, 2011

shagfrag said:
naw everybody roots are fine dudes i have a pic from yesterday there nice and whit.also doing a res change and dropping them in to smaller totes.5 gallons to be exact.i have to 2 12 in airstones but no water to agitate it.

Use Roots Excelurator for dwc....It protects from, and cures root rot.....Plus you will see some of the craziest root growth you will ever see. CNS 17 is a good, cheap, and easy to use base nute. You got the Karma ....That's good....Adding the Calmag....Good....Now for an enzyme that eats away at the dead shit on ur roots. You can use Multizen, Hygrozyme, or Sensizyme. Maybe some Dripclean to stop salt build up in the medium.....and......If you really wanna get crazy, naturally control the ph using Silica blast for up and Mad Farmer's N.U.T.S. (Fulvic Acid) for down. Silica will also strengthen the plant. The fulvic acid will also break down existing nutes in the rez making them more readily available to the plant. ...................Good Luck

Highdrophilia27 · Apr 28, 2011

shagfrag said:
naw everybody roots are fine dudes i have a pic from yesterday there nice and whit.also doing a res change and dropping them in to smaller totes.5 gallons to be exact.i have to 2 12 in airstones but no water pump to agitate it.

Keep using the liquid karma. I've heard it is really good!

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