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Wait- doesn't the definition of 'hydro' mean that the plants are getting their nutrients from an aqueous solution? If so, then it's 'hydro' whether you use rockwool, chow mix or lava rocks.
If you mean 'non DWC', that includes hydroponic approaches with a substrate. Talk to Capulator!
If you mean 'non hydroponic' altogether, then that means soil, organics, and outdoor soil grows.
I'm not griping, I'm just trying to clarify what you're seeking.
i thought the definition of hydroponic is: Hydro = Water, Ponic = Labor. Being the word hydroponic is a vast term, i thought it meant any type of self watering system, the medium could be anything; rockwool, chow, soil, soilless, etc..
Wait- doesn't the definition of 'hydro' mean that the plants are getting their nutrients from an aqueous solution? If so, then it's 'hydro' whether you use rockwool, chow mix or lava rocks.
If you mean 'non DWC', that includes hydroponic approaches with a substrate. Talk to Capulator!
If you mean 'non hydroponic' altogether, then that means soil, organics, and outdoor soil grows.
I'm not griping, I'm just trying to clarify what you're seeking.
I could see what you are saying but i was def alluding to more specific substrates...for the most part referring to the more common organic substrates- ie soil/coco based. Other than that soil/coco can both be automated etc like most fully hydroponic systems. For the sake of this discussion, lets think along the lines of soil/coco and variations there of as far as mixes for substrate. :)
I'll get back in a lil bit and respond Z, as well discuss my previous set ups with vert soil trees/etc.
Need to get Waayne up in this bitch to take us to school! lol.
This is incorrect. If your definition was the case, then pouring water on the ground for farm crops would be hydroponics.
Hydroponics is, by broadly accepted definition, the practice of FEEDING the plant primarily or exclusively through nutrients held in solution in the water. Whether the roots of that plant dangle in water, or sit in sand, chow mix, soilless mix or what have you doesnt matter.
If the substrate is making the Primary contribution of nutrients to the plant, it's not hydroponics. This is true whether you're watering by hand or via automated equipment. Does the sprinkler system watering your front yard make your lawn hydroponic? Not unless you put your nutes in the water first.
I'm not here to argue the merits of one approach over another- indeed, I'm subbed to this thread because I'm looking forward to seeing what people out there are running!
7-10 gal containers of rockwool with 2 plants per light will net ya 2P's a light ..
rockwool as in "absorbent granulated" ,comes in the 45lb bags from Grodan , I've been using it for running up on 20yrs now with GREAT results ,I used to have a few threads on the "how to's" ,but I believe they are all MIA these days
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by definition soil is any media with sand, silt, or clay (or any combination of).
hydro is everything else. "working water" hanging gardens of babylon one of the first known examples.
This is incorrect. If your definition was the case, then pouring water on the ground for farm crops would be hydroponics.
Hydroponics is, by broadly accepted definition, the practice of FEEDING the plant primarily or exclusively through nutrients held in solution in the water. Whether the roots of that plant dangle in water, or sit in sand, chow mix, soilless mix or what have you doesnt matter.
If the substrate is making the Primary contribution of nutrients to the plant, it's not hydroponics. This is true whether you're watering by hand or via automated equipment. Does the sprinkler system watering your front yard make your lawn hydroponic? Not unless you put your nutes in the water first.
I'm not here to argue the merits of one approach over another- indeed, I'm subbed to this thread because I'm looking forward to seeing what people out there are running!
I'm looking forward to seeing what other farmers are doing with their tree's:)
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no arguements here. no point in arguing definitions. From truegrits post, i think he meant hydro as a self feeding system such as: ebb n flow/flood n drain, DWC, UC.... automated feeding. i mix my nutrient solutions 2-3 times a week and simply water by hand, 8 oz of liquid at a time - not hydroponics in my book. more strenuous with larger plants, for they need more water, but its habit now.
keep the good vibes and way to keep the thread on topic!
Z
Agreed here, im just not one to fight the good fight, i let the other guys do that and i take my 2 cents in stride.The point to 'arguing definitions' is so that when we use words, we can be reasonably sure the other person understands what we mean. If definitions get sloppy, then understanding can easily fail. This is exactly why each profession and their supporting organizations so fiercely guard their industry specific jargon- is so professionals can talk about technical details using language everyone understands.
This is a profession, at least for some of us, and therefore it's important to be aware of what words and concepts mean- and to use them correctly. The alternative is babylon.
Agreed here, im just not one to fight the good fight, i let the other guys do that and i take my 2 cents in stride.
keep up the good work, im glad you value cultivation as a profession (i assume). for i have upmost respect for your input and agree with much of.
CheerZ
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