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d1esel · Apr 29, 2013

Holy crap, I think I'm on track for the most unintentional times stressing a grow....walked in to the tent yesterday to water all over the floor. Tray anD reservoir were leaking...the girls looked depressed so I went shopping... new tray and reservoir, added another uvb light. Fresh water and nutes, sorry ladies! Hoping they will give me enough to get through to the next run.

ttystikk · Apr 29, 2013

d1esel said:
Holy crap, I think I'm on track for the most unintentional times stressing a grow....walked in to the tent yesterday to water all over the floor. Tray anD reservoir were leaking...the girls looked depressed so I went shopping... new tray and reservoir, added another uvb light. Fresh water and nutes, sorry ladies! Hoping they will give me enough to get through to the next run.

Caught it early enough to recover, that's the main thing.

d1esel · Apr 30, 2013

All happy again...

d1esel · May 8, 2013

All good so far...the lady's are stacking up a little after their drought. I put up 3 more 25w uvb lights, 4 in total. 1 directly over the ny diesel, one attached to a little oscillating fan...seeing if the mover works.. and 1 over each chocolate kush, and one chocolate in the middle that I don't have anything on but light and whatever it catches from the other lights. They haven't stretched yet...just making flowers and recouping, I think I might have a pretty full tent pretty soon. Or I fucked it up and I get a weak ass finish!

d1esel · May 9, 2013

Did I mention the "drought " brought on spider dick head mites! I'm going to kill these bitches.my research leads me to purchasing safe-t-side by Monterey... I foliared some neem but I want them gone now, times a wasting!

ttystikk · May 10, 2013

d1esel said:
Did I mention the "drought " brought on spider dick head mites! I'm going to kill these bitches.my research leads me to purchasing safe-t-side by Monterey... I foliared some neem but I want them gone now, times a wasting!

Oh, that sucks. Get your rh up to slow them down, while you employ heavy artillery. Neem isn't good enough, but a derivative of it, Azamax is: active ingredient is azadirachtin, several brands have it. Azamax is OMRI listed. The important thing with any pesticide, but especially organics, is to follow dosing instructions carefully, and even more important, you want to reapply on the recommended interval. Spraying once is never enough; it's the repeated application that gets not only the adults, but also eggs and young.

The alternatives of floramite and avid are out there and they are very effective, but they are also very powerful man-made chemicals that can persist on the plant after it's harvested. If you go that route, be aware of the risk you're asking the smoker of that product to take.

To minimize, if not eliminate, such risks, spray these materials only on cuttings, plants in veg or no more than a week or two into the 12 hour bloom cycle. The earlier the better so as to not only give the chemicals time to break down, but also because the plant hasn't yet produced buds, thus allowing them to grow as uncontaminated by residual traces as possible.

If you're past that point in your cycle and the mites hit the scene, use only the organic pesticides out there, and only the ones with minimal residual activity. Stay on top of your application repetitions because that's how you get young, old and eggs.

d1esel · May 10, 2013

Thanks for the info! I am growing for my wife and myself, I looked at the chemical pesticides but I am a couple weeks into flower. Avid came up a lot in my recon of getting rid of these bastards, or gas and a match...lol Monterey horticultural oil, safe-t-side.... safe! Texas A&M aggis recommended it, seems safe and another farmer swears by it and..... blah blah blah lol proof is in the pudding, worst that can happen is I have to start over sooner,oh no...

ttystikk · May 10, 2013

d1esel said:
Thanks for the info! I am growing for my wife and myself, I looked at the chemical pesticides but I am a couple weeks into flower. Avid came up a lot in my recon of getting rid of these bastards, or gas and a match...lol Monterey horticultural oil, safe-t-side.... safe! Texas A&M aggis recommended it, seems safe and another farmer swears by it and..... blah blah blah lol proof is in the pudding, worst that can happen is I have to start over sooner,oh no...

I've tried such horticultural oils, and they inhibit but do not control support mites. No bueno, compadre- you need the Azamax. It's still an organic, OMRI listed, and finally, it is also in fact a horticultural oil in its own right!

d1esel · May 11, 2013

OK, azamax it is, I have to order other online or go to Oregon or something I haven't found it local yet...should be easier to find azamax. Thank you for the advice ttystikk! It makes me itchy to even think about those nasty little bugs, I can't wait to eradicate them from my garden!!!!

ttystikk · May 11, 2013

d1esel said:
OK, azamax it is, I have to order other online or go to Oregon or something I haven't found it local yet...should be easier to find azamax. Thank you for the advice ttystikk! It makes me itchy to even think about those nasty little bugs, I can't wait to eradicate them from my garden!!!!

I know that feeling! The only feeling worse than that is the one I got after looking through my 120x microscope at millions of microscopic little fucking russet mites! I'd had the little motherfuckers for years before making the discovery. I felt violated.

I got even, though. Not only did I kill every last one of them and all of their children, but I now offer advice on how to find and eradicate them from other people's gardens!

Kill... Kill... KILL... KILL THEM ALL!!!!

Theoneandonly Z · May 11, 2013

yup^ azamax is good stuff. i spray it every week. also root drench it every now and then

d1esel · May 12, 2013

Theoneandonly Z said:
yup^ azamax is good stuff. i spray it every week. also root drench it every now and then

1 and only...root drench....like hand water and let it recycle in my reservoir? Or would I be wise to do this before my weekly change out?

d1esel · May 12, 2013

ttystikk said:
I know that feeling! The only feeling worse than that is the one I got after looking through my 120x microscope at millions of microscopic little fucking russet mites! I'd had the little motherfuckers for years before making the discovery. I felt violated.

I got even, though. Not only did I kill every last one of them and all of their children, but I now offer advice on how to find and eradicate them from other people's gardens!

Kill... Kill... KILL... KILL THEM ALL!!!!

And I appreciate your advice! 120X, I'm almost afraid to...lol more crawling bastards.... how did you get rid of those....?

Theoneandonly Z · May 12, 2013

d1esel said:
1 and only...root drench....like hand water and let it recycle in my reservoir? Or would I be wise to do this before my weekly change out?

whatever works best for you. If your running a recirculating system, i would let the azamax run through for at least 24 hours. I tried uploading the dilution tables for ya, but i think i uploaded the whole direction book o_OZ

ttystikk · May 12, 2013

d1esel said:
And I appreciate your advice! 120X, I'm almost afraid to...lol more crawling bastards.... how did you get rid of those....?

I read pesticide labels for fun, an affliction I share with Squiggly. I was reading in the Avid label about how its persistence can be increased by the use of a horticultural oil mixed in with it- so I used Azamax! It's an oil based product, right? I did it twice. Everything is gone, and I'm sure it has a lot to do with helping the Avid last longer. Russet mites have a 6 day life cycle, and I'm pretty sure Avid with Azamax was persistent and active for at least 2 weeks.

caveman4.20 · May 12, 2013

I'm surprised anybody uses Avid and indoors man you should read the warning label again on that one Avid should be banned

neverbreak · May 12, 2013

good to know ttystikk!

neverbreak

ttystikk · May 12, 2013

caveman4.20 said:
I'm surprised anybody uses Avid and indoors man you should read the warning label again on that one Avid should be banned

Dude. The first thing I said in my post was that I read pesticide warning labels for fun. The tip about mixing it with horticultural oil both makes less be more effective (always good) and makes it float in the air less, so it's not as bad to breathe.

No pesticide is completely safe. Fucking cinnamon oil will burn the shit out of you!

caveman4.20 · May 12, 2013

No offense but I feel strongly about not recommending that poison to anyone I care about. That's meant for outdoor only and not to mention it says not to use near neighborhoods!

ttystikk · May 12, 2013

caveman4.20 said:
No offense but I feel strongly about not recommending that poison to anyone I care about. That's meant for outdoor only and not to mention it says not to use near neighborhoods!

If you feel there is a safer alternative that's still effective, I'm all for it. I don't use pesticides lightly, and I certainly don't spray them just because the calendar says to; I target its use to a specific threat, and I generally work my way up the ladder from mild/organic stuff to the hard shit only if I'm not getting results.

I hear your concerns, but I find that people who criticize without offering specific alternatives to be unhelpful.

Russet mites are nasty, populate wildly, and are so small (microscopic, need 120x just to see them) that they get missed a lot in people's gardens, which means they have had the chance to become resistant to many insecticides already.

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