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[caveman4.20]

If you feel there is a safer alternative that's still effective, I'm all for it. I don't use pesticides lightly, and I certainly don't spray them just because the calendar says to; I target its use to a specific threat, and I generally work my way up the ladder from mild/organic stuff to the hard shit only if I'm not getting results.

I hear your concerns, but I find that people who criticize without offering specific alternatives to be unhelpful.

Russet mites are nasty, populate wildly, and are so small (microscopic, need 120x just to see them) that they get missed a lot in people's gardens, which means they have had the chance to become resistant to many insecticides already.

I totally respect thAt... I'm a seed junky so I trash it and start over but ill keep working on an alternative to avoid avid in case I ever need it as for ones I care about who need to save clone onlys instead of starting over ill keep searching! Peace

 

[ttystikk]

I totally respect thAt... I'm a seed junky so I trash it and start over but ill keep working on an alternative to avoid avid in case I ever need it as for ones I care about who need to save clone onlys instead of starting over ill keep searching! Peace

I started with Azamax, and then went to insecticidal soap.

I've only used Avid twice- the second time to be certain I got eggs, young, etc. I'd rather never use it, or Floramite, ever again if I can help it. I use separate zones, I keep my op isolated, use sealed rooms, keep new arrivals in quarantine, etc etc.

 

[d1esel]

Dude. The first thing I said in my post was that I read pesticide warning labels for fun. The tip about mixing it with horticultural oil both makes less be more effective (always good) and makes it float in the air less, so it's not as bad to breathe.

No pesticide is completely safe. Fucking cinnamon oil will burn the shit out of you!

So if I mixed neem with it azamax...

 

[d1esel]

If you feel there is a safer alternative that's still effective, I'm all for it. I don't use pesticides lightly, and I certainly don't spray them just because the calendar says to; I target its use to a specific threat, and I generally work my way up the ladder from mild/organic stuff to the hard shit only if I'm not getting results.

I hear your concerns, but I find that people who criticize without offering specific alternatives to be unhelpful.

Russet mites are nasty, populate wildly, and are so small (microscopic, need 120x just to see them) that they get missed a lot in people's gardens, which means they have had the chance to become resistant to many insecticides already.

So, if you had them for awhile, have you noticed better plant health, better yields? In short is there a way to notice on or with the plant that you have them, other than a 120x microscope? We could be smoking bugs because someone overlooked them growing. I will be investing in a better microscope! Thank you all for the input

 

[ttystikk]

So if I mixed neem with it azamax...

Don't do this. Just use Azamax according to instructions. It's already carried by an oil; the very neem oil it's derived from!

 

[d1esel]

Don't do this. Just use Azamax according to instructions. It's already carried by an oil; the very neem pool it's derived from!

All right...here we go!

 

[ttystikk]

So, if you had them for awhile, have you noticed better plant health, better yields? In short is there a way to notice on or with the plant that you have them, other than a 120x microscope?

Uh yeah; basically night and day. Infested plants look a bit listless, don't have many hairs and don't smell good. If humidity falls, the poor plants can quite literally get sucked completely dry. I improved nutrients, rdwc, climate, everything and couldn't figure it out until a buddy showed me- using my own own microscope. Go figure... Imagine how things look now, after the parasites are gone! Let's just say the $300 I recently spent on a new carbon filter was a good investment...

The microscope is the definitive method of identification.

 

[d1esel]

Uh yeah; basically night and day. Infested plants look a bit listless, don't have many hairs and don't smell good. If humidity falls, the poor plants can quite literally get sucked completely dry. I improved nutrients, rdwc, climate, everything and couldn't figure it out until a buddy showed me- using my own own microscope. Go figure... Imagine how things look now, after the parasites are gone! Let's just say the $300 I recently spent on a new carbon filter was a good investment...

The microscope is the definitive method of identification.

any advice on shopping?

 

[d1esel]

There they sit, see how they react to my spray job. Yes, I was very thorough! Going to wait to put in reservoir...

 

[d1esel]

 

[d1esel]

Stress= balls on a bitch! At least that's what it looks like....idea's?

 

[spacebomb]

Yeah man DONT let these little things out you if your game bro, you have the same type of set up as me:-) just nice, it, and your gals look great man. Its VERY hard work. BUT SOO WORTH IT BRO:-)and your growing with the best of aswell man. Chem? And og! First run! Pull that of and your doing something correct eh:-)lol. Good luck man .
Space.

 

[spacebomb]

Fuck me! Lol, what's in the crap like caveman? Shit, I'm lucky, toutch wood. Never had s. M, s, just some? Lil flying Fucking bastards 1,time, and yellow sticky boards got em:-) I found some pretty big orange color eggs. I think they were eggs ?they popped when I looked closer and squeezed it:(aarrgg .it was full of white snotty gear:( yuk. And I'm GUESSING that they should not have been there? So there's also a kinda warning, morral here to eh! Don't let, CAVEMAN GUANO CO, gift you a bag of shit:-)

 

[Mogrow]

Stress= balls on a bitch! At least that's what it looks like....idea's?

pull it off, keep a close eye for others. i only see one, so it's not the end of the plant but needs watched. bud looks nice and frosty. rock on bro.....

 

[d1esel]

Any idea what is causing this color? What did I do now....

 

[d1esel]

One of the diesel tops!

 

[justblazen]

I totally respect thAt... I'm a seed junky so I trash it and start over but ill keep working on an alternative to avoid avid in case I ever need it as for ones I care about who need to save clone onlys instead of starting over ill keep searching! Peace

try mighty wash Caveman Shit works and is not as toxic as avid.

 

[ttystikk]

try mighty wash Caveman Shit works and is not as toxic as avid.

Second this, it does work on contact- and that's the key, on contact. You have to stay on top of the reapplication schedule, this is what will make the difference.

 

[Topofthecrop]

God I hate mites.

 

[Topofthecrop]

I never really understood the hate until I got them.
Sorry if this has been mentioned already but I thought I'd add my two cents.
I use a minimum of three products. I will spray two to three times a week with one then go to the other and spray two to three times the next week with a different product and so on. I give a day or two maybe three day break between each spray. I do that as a heavy treatment to kill fast. Then after that I will treat once a week for a regular maintenance, changing product as I go. Also spraying room while plants are out of it. Floor, walls ect. I will spray the organic treatments no later than week 4 in flower. I actually picked one up that is ok for flower all the way through but I don't like to use it past that point. I use at the moment "pets out" by safer pro which I'm a huge fan of and also azamax. I use a free sample product called pure green thumb clone and veg spray. Not sure where or if its available yet. I will use dr. Bronners peppermint organic soap for every treatment mixed with my mite foliar. I use bronners with every foliar I do not use just for mites. The peppermint is great for bug control use alone too but better to mix with as only a wetting agent. Those are my main three. But I have used and randomly use 1600 X-clude formula 2. It's mainly my room spray. It's much to aggressive for the plants in my opinion. Also a neem oil is good for a back up or random coat. It's obviously not as rich as the others. I have seen and heard a few people using mighty wash too. But I have not personally used it. The key is to keep changing it up. Good luck buddy! Hope you can get that shit worked out. I've had to pull plants earlier in the past because of the hellbugs.