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ok., different opinions are fine, personally it healed my hand meaning i had about a 2-3 inch burn with layers missing, so i got a bandage wrap thing and put a bunch of oil on it and wrapped it around my hand, changed the bandage couple times and within a week like 7 days maybe a day or two later my hand was perfectly healed with no sign of anything, got this from watching the rick simpson documentaries and it worked exactly like he said..It is snake oil as an actual treatment and Simpson was just getting high. Will it make you feel better if you are ill? Sure, it will get you high like any other extraction and that may well alleviate pain and nausea. It is likely to give temporary relief to the depression associated with major illness too. That isn't treatment, it is palliative. If people want to use it eyes open as a palliative then by all means, go for it.
Don't believe for a second that RSO or cannabinoids in general are a magical cure for cancer. For every study that shows cannabinoids reduce tumor growth or limit angiogenesis, there is another that shows that they increase tumor growth rates and suppress the immune systems ability to kill cancer cells. Usually when you have studies that show opposing effects the reality lays in the middle and it does nothing.
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It is snake oil as an actual treatment and Simpson was just getting high. Will it make you feel better if you are ill? Sure, it will get you high like any other extraction and that may well alleviate pain and nausea. It is likely to give temporary relief to the depression associated with major illness too. That isn't treatment, it is palliative. If people want to use it eyes open as a palliative then by all means, go for it.
Don't believe for a second that RSO or cannabinoids in general are a magical cure for cancer. For every study that shows cannabinoids reduce tumor growth or limit angiogenesis, there is another that shows that they increase tumor growth rates and suppress the immune systems ability to kill cancer cells. Usually when you have studies that show opposing effects the reality lays in the middle and it does nothing.
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we’re here to help and support people, especially people in need..
Here you go:I've seen studies that show tumor reduction, but not the opposite. How about a link your back up your claim? Anecdotal evidence is not science but there is a lot of anecdotal evidence out there which is at least suggestive of a link between RSO and cancer inhibition.
that’s not rso oil.We are also here to spread information which as often as not involve combatting misinformation.
Here you go:
Hart S, Fischer OM, Ullrich A. Cannabinoids induce cancer cell proliferation via tumor necrosis factor alpha-converting enzyme (tace/adam17)–mediated transactivation of the epidermal growth factor receptor. Cancer Res. 2004;64:1943–50. doi: 10.1158/0008-5472.CAN-03-3720. [PubMed] [CrossRef] [Google Scholar]
McKallip RJ, Nagarkatti M, Nagarkatti PS. Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol enhances breast cancer growth and metastasis by suppression of the antitumor immune response. J Immunol. 2005;174:3281–9. doi: 10.4049/jimmunol.174.6.3281. [PubMed] [CrossRef] [Google Scholar]
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Totally, it does show at least anecdotal evidence of increasing the effectiveness of conventional treatments like chemo and radiation by increasing appetite, reducing nausea and generally improving mood and quality of life, which is in my mind one of the biggest cancer fighters right there.Agreed. Much research yet to be done, but it does provide medicinal value.
it’s all good, i would assume the video is a bit exaggerated, lots of truth though.That's not how I understood it GNick55, and I know people that know him, my dealer back then used to buy from him directly. His run from the cure video he put out is full off all kinds of BS.
And I watched a friend's father die a couple years ago trying to fight melanoma with RSO. It did absolutely nothing to stop the melanoma.
I'm all for using cannabis as medicine for what it's good for, but it does not cure cancers. Not even a little bit. And giving people false hope that there is some sort of suppressed miracle cure doesn't sit well with me.
ok this needs to stop here on the threads, both opinions, what’s next politics and religion..
Just throwing this out as food for thought... cancer is not cancer. There are many many forms affecting many different areas of the body and we cannot simply make blanket statements about cancer.
I have to assume you work in the field in some capacity. I'm not well informed on this subject but have read into some of the basics and like you I feel like there is a possibility in the future for use in specific types of cancer... the last I looked into this was over a year ago and some promising results were being given in the area of prostate cancer. But if I remember right most of it was theory or speculation atleast in the information I found. With all the new research hopefully we can get some comcrete answers on the specific cannabinoids that have promise in which specific areas.If the fundamental concept that drives religion is faith and faith is the willingness to believe in something in the absence of evidence; what is belief even despite evidence to the contrary? Is that what distinguishes a religion from a cult or what separates a believe from a true believer? A Republican from a Trump supporter perhaps?
Very true. Each tumor line has specific behaviors and response positively, negatively or not at all to certain stimuli. In the dark ages (30 years ago), you would be told, "You have breast cancer". Often times these days you will be told, "You have an invasive ductile carcinoma that is positive for X surface proteins". By getting that kind of ID, you can pick drugs for treatment that have the best statistical outcome. Going a step further and doing a test against cultured tissue, we can fairly readily identify what drugs are likely to work for treatment on a particular individual. Some of those tumor types will inevitably shrink or stop growing when exposed to certain canabanoids. One thing that is not a thing in the cancers that kill you is "cured". You can put tumors in check and go into remission but metastatic cancers are something you live with for the rest of your life.
Is there potential for certain cannabinoids to be used as actual treatment agents for specific types of tumor? Anything is possible. Would I bet my life on it? No...
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My background is genetics and biochemistry so I have a pretty decent grasp on the mechanics at the receptor level but I haven't been involved with it directly since my research days. Cancer behaviors transcends all that to include every aspect of immunology as well and while I know how some of it works, it is a system so complex that nobody can claim to fully understand it. I'm not aware of prostate cancer types that are responsive but I don't doubt it. There are some gliomas that have high CB1/CB2 receptor expression which have apoptosis (ordered cell death) induced by cannabinoids. The concentrations have to be so high that the only way to achieve it is to inject directly into the tumor and that involves brain surgery which is less than ideal. Goes to show that there are regulatory pathways that can be exploited in specific tumor lines with cannabinoids though.I have to assume you work in the field in some capacity. I'm not well informed on this subject but have read into some of the basics and like you I feel like there is a possibility in the future for use in specific types of cancer... the last I looked into this was over a year ago and some promising results were being given in the area of prostate cancer. But if I remember right most of it was theory or speculation atleast in the information I found. With all the new research hopefully we can get some comcrete answers on the specific cannabinoids that have promise in which specific areas.
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