Odds of getting a keeper pheno?

[GardenWeasel77]

Ive grown weed for a couple of years now but for all the hype around strains and terpenes and effects I've only ever grown 1 plant that had a unique smell and effect. That's out of 20 or 30 plants. Anyway, I was wondering, what do you all think the odds are of getting something that's unique. Am I just unlucky, all this hype about magical terpenes profiles and interesting effects and it's all pretty much been the same to me.

What are y'all's thoughts?

 

[voltage]

I popped 40 over the last 2 rounds and i have 2 that look promising atm. I have to sex and clone them.
I wouldn't try it with rqs seeds.
So I bought seeds from a breeder who has crossed some strains that i like And started to hunt for distinct flavors/smells and plant traits that are unique.

 

[Beazy]

Where did you get those seeds from ?? Definitely best to stick with well established breeders. And even then seeds can for sure still be a crapshoot so just keep poppin em

 

[Glomus]

I popped 40 over the last 2 rounds and i have 2 that look promising atm. I have to sex and clone them.
I wouldn't try it with rqs seeds.
So I bought seeds from a breeder who has crossed some strains that i like And started to hunt for distinct flavors/smells and plant traits that are unique.

Crockett family farms has some really unique stuff if you like fruity stuff. and is very reputable. Also Humbolt seed co has for most part never let me down.

 

[Natep]

Ive grown weed for a couple of years now but for all the hype around strains and terpenes and effects I've only ever grown 1 plant that had a unique smell and effect. That's out of 20 or 30 plants. Anyway, I was wondering, what do you all think the odds are of getting something that's unique. Am I just unlucky, all this hype about magical terpenes profiles and interesting effects and it's all pretty much been the same to me.

What are y'all's thoughts?

Getting a plant to show hidden genetics is a 1 in a million deal. Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of quality strains out there.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Pheno hunts with less than 40 or so at a cycle will be a long snipe hunt. Some folks have said use genetically superior strains but a lot of these are very stable strains that do not express many variables. I know a guy who does mass hunts and his preferred source is a female bag seed and a genetically stable male breeder strain.
Having said that he admits in 20 years he has had great success with a gelato strain and a variation of Big bud that got picked up by commercial growers and a whole lot of mids he gave away

 

[voltage]

Crockett family farms has some really unique stuff if you like fruity stuff. and is very reputable. Also Humbolt seed co has for most part never let me down.

I'm good

 

[Glomus]

I'm good

I'm looking for heavy washers so I guess it depends on what your wanting out of a strain.

 

[Senzu_Seeds]

I've been playing around and inbreeding the same line for the last 3 years. I'm at f3 stage now, I wouldn't have gotten here if there weren't genetics worth keeping.

In the f1 polyhybrid I found that "keeper" plants were plentiful, I got about 15 that were worth keeping from that batch of 45(about 24 females), with 6-7 being excellent, and 1 of those being some of the best I've ever smoked. It's the reason I inbred the line further, if you can manage to find keepers in a line, just select you favorite phenotypes and and keep select further down you will end up producing a more homogeneous chemotype/phenotype. The more parallel familial lines you can maintain the better for the genome(preservation-wise)


I selected from my f2 generation's best sativa expressions and produced a bunch of hybrids and f3's I am testing now, you only know if a male has the goods by growing it's offspring.

Very soon I will be testing this "Peace Train" hybrid male to see if he passes on his 'Purple' Haze traits to offspring.

That's how I decide if a male is a "keeper", does he give you the goods?

I try to go through as many seeds as possible.

 

[SmallspaceGrace]

Around 50 is a good number to have a look .. you will likely see a few to move forward with .

 

[GardenWeasel77]

I've been playing around and inbreeding the same line for the last 3 years. I'm at f3 stage now, I wouldn't have gotten here if there weren't genetics worth keeping.

In the f1 polyhybrid I found that "keeper" plants were plentiful, I got about 15 that were worth keeping from that batch of 45(about 24 females), with 6-7 being excellent, and 1 of those being some of the best I've ever smoked. It's the reason I inbred the line further, if you can manage to find keepers in a line, just select you favorite phenotypes and and keep select further down you will end up producing a more homogeneous chemotype/phenotype. The more parallel familial lines you can maintain the better for the genome(preservation-wise)


I selected from my f2 generation's best sativa expressions and produced a bunch of hybrids and f3's I am testing now, you only know if a male has the goods by growing it's offspring.
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Very soon I will be testing this "Peace Train" hybrid male to see if he passes on his 'Purple' Haze traits to offspring.

That's how I decide if a male is a "keeper", does he give you the goods?
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I try to go through as many seeds as possible.

I've been playing around and inbreeding the same line for the last 3 years. I'm at f3 stage now, I wouldn't have gotten here if there weren't genetics worth keeping.

In the f1 polyhybrid I found that "keeper" plants were plentiful, I got about 15 that were worth keeping from that batch of 45(about 24 females), with 6-7 being excellent, and 1 of those being some of the best I've ever smoked. It's the reason I inbred the line further, if you can manage to find keepers in a line, just select you favorite phenotypes and and keep select further down you will end up producing a more homogeneous chemotype/phenotype. The more parallel familial lines you can maintain the better for the genome(preservation-wise)


I selected from my f2 generation's best sativa expressions and produced a bunch of hybrids and f3's I am testing now, you only know if a male has the goods by growing it's offspring.
View attachment 2421400
Very soon I will be testing this "Peace Train" hybrid male to see if he passes on his 'Purple' Haze traits to offspring.

That's how I decide if a male is a "keeper", does he give you the goods?
View attachment 2421402
I try to go through as many seeds as possible.

How do you water so many plants lol. More than 12 is a pain to me.

 

[Senzu_Seeds]

It isn't easy that's for sure.

 

[voltage]

Time to pop another round. Sexing the R's now and flipping the F's soon.
Fingers crossed that the fastest strongest 3 are females.

I have 4 more strains i will pop next.