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WTF? No wrongdoing found, but you still had to fucking submit???So the wife and i had to piss test to make sure there was no other drugs in our system, in order for our case to be closed. So we did and havent heard from them since, although we have moved from there many years ago i hope to never have to deal with them again.
Ya they said that since the sddress had been visited before from a different resident by cps, they had to follow threw, with the full treatment, i was quite ignorant when it happen and complied, we dont do anything but smoke herb, well me my wife is sober as a judge, so i said i dont care i know im clean, then when i went to piss dude was gay, and had to stare at my penis while pissing, to make sure it was real, which didnt make it any easier, not the gay part just the uncomfortable staring.I just had this discussion with someone the other day. They felt that, because "we're" (the collective 'we' in terms of all medical growers) in compliance with state law we're ok. Such is not the case. The feds basically offer local munis incentives to remove children from homes, and interestingly enough, in California those hardest hit reside in the poorest counties that also happen to be where the most weed is grown and the least city-type crime occurs. Thus, those local CPS offices have LOTS of incentive to remove children from homes, it has happened and continues to happen. I posted an article about it a year or two ago. I think it's playing with fire to be too casual about growing with kids of your own. The worst that can happen to me with the grandkids is someone tells parents to be more careful, but they don't reside with us and so no one can remove them from our care.
WTF? No wrongdoing found, but you still had to fucking submit???
Sea is right,why submit to piss tests based on secondhand hearsay?thats rediculous,they have no evidence.You need to see a lawyer so your better prepared in the future.Having said that i know about growing and kids although i havent had that issue for many years now,We all would do anything when scared about our kids welfare and CPS knows this and uses it against you,best to see that lawyer and know your rights beforehand but they will do as they please anyways so down low(indoor) and 100% legal numbers at the very least.
I've been educating my granddaughter from the beginning, including about sex, which makes it all much easier to talk about. I personally think it's better to start ASAP. But here she is, 9yo with her wits about her, yes? I think it's time you start talking to her more like an adult, assuming she's ready for that (I was VERY precocious and matured very early on, and had been exposed to quite a bit in terms of reproduction and drug use by age 10, but my parents didn't have to have the kinds of talks with us that we parents have had to have now because WoD didn't exist back then).lso another thing thats gonna be coming up soon is the talk with my daughter, she is very intelligent in GATE class and i know i can trust her. She is going on 9 yrs. Old and quite frankly i feel i need to have a talk with her. What im afraid of and have heard time and time again is her using it for ransom, at this age i put her above that, but once puverty hits well we all know how girls get in preteens with there want and needs.
Any advice from my women veterans.
sea what you think?
thanks sea as always you find a way to put my mind at ease. Really just help me put the pieces of the puzzle together. I really appreciate The advice your the best.I've been educating my granddaughter from the beginning, including about sex, which makes it all much easier to talk about. I personally think it's better to start ASAP. But here she is, 9yo with her wits about her, yes? I think it's time you start talking to her more like an adult, assuming she's ready for that (I was VERY precocious and matured very early on, and had been exposed to quite a bit in terms of reproduction and drug use by age 10, but my parents didn't have to have the kinds of talks with us that we parents have had to have now because WoD didn't exist back then).
In any event, the way I frame it is like this -- there are some things that are for adults only, like sex, alcohol, and cigarettes. Other things are usually only for adults, but sometimes children may need to use them. This is medication. An adult must always watch a child use medication to be safe and prevent the child from taking too much. Smoking flowers are my medicine, but they are also my fun sometimes, just like alcohol. Sometimes children need to use smoking flowers (not for smoking), too, because it's medicine. Their parents will make a special potion for them and give that to them.
^^ This is how I frame for my young grandchildren, and remember, I've been talking to my granddaughter about it since she moved in with us at age 18mos. My grandson is uninitiated, but I basically have the same talk with him, starting at age 5. I think I've mentioned that one time we were all down in my garden and my grandson asked me about my smoking flowers again, and my granddaughter announced to him, entirely unprompted by me, that they can stop little kids from having seizures. I was SO PROUD of her! I didn't teach her that.
Anyway, for an older child I would want to talk to them about programs like DARE (I don't know what GATE is) and how they can actually misinform children, make them think maybe their parents are doing something wrong and how it's up to us to stick together always, because we are family and while laws may change, family never changes. I also should have told my boys what I personally thought about the whole thing, but I was too paranoid. I taught my boys about sex, but not drugs. If I could do it all over again I'd talk to them about everything I could, even the illegal stuff.
I get the feeling you're a tight-knit family, so the idea of snitching doesn't quite fit for me. But having CPS come into your life is just one THE most fucked up things ever and once you're forced to jump through hoops, fuck it man, you jump if you want your kids kept safe from them.
A neighbor called CPS on me after I called because she was regularly locking her kids out of the house while she and their father would get drunk. The baby's diaper would be dripping with urine, her 8yo brother would be knocking on the door begging mom & dad to let him in so he could at least change her diaper and after about a month of that, I couldn't take it anymore and I called. CPS, when they came into my apartment, told me immediately they knew it was a retaliatory phone call, so not much happened. But I know how bad it could have been.
Oh, and nothing happened to the neighbor who neglected her kids.
low profile & locking it up.... remember, security is never conveniant....
I just had this discussion with someone the other day. They felt that, because "we're" (the collective 'we' in terms of all medical growers) in compliance with state law we're ok. Such is not the case.
I have first hand experience with being in the OMMP and having to deal with CPS.
Basically if the grow and medicine is locked up and zero access to minors in the house you will be protected.
BUT if they decide to do a investigation (you or your wife does something stupid to endanger the child they will come) you will not be able to medicate.
A few years ago my kids mom got fucked up on who knows what. Found her on the floor downstairs and called 911. Since she was fucked up on something CPS came to do a welfare check.
I let them in to do there thing. They already knew I was in the OMMP and wanted to make sure I didn't have stuff sitting out. Which I didn't.
My kids were released to me under my care.
I did have to stop medicating during there investigation of the kids mom. Even though I had my card it did not matter.
I am now a single father and the mom is nowhere to be found. Except jail when she gets caught every few months.
Same here, though I didn't care for beer and still don't. Don't really care for alcohol, and have never abused it. I agree 100%!My family emigrated from Germany and I grew up being taught that alcohol was "food" and not something to abuse. In Germany, alcohol drinking by children isn't really prohibited (beer/wine) within the home. In public those 16+ can drink beer/wine and those 18+ can drink hard alcohol. My parents/grandparents never allowed me to get drunk, but I remember being a teenager and being allowed to have a glass of wine (singular) or beer (again, singular) with dinner. Want to know the results? I treated alcohol with respect and didn't go through an abuse alcohol phase. Education is key.
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