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One plant has spots on leaves

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Kindon67 said:
That’s in complete opposition to what majority of people say. Bottom watering is best way to discourage pests. Also , never have issues with over or under watering. Nutrients I feed from the top so I can better control amount and prevent buildups. Other than this issue the plants are loving life.
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majority of people?? who?? you tube?
ok than,..
 
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Grownsince95 said:
And after reading that article what's your assessment?
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Well I don’t think it got me any further along. It seems that I’d have to let the leaves go and see what the late effects are. That’s not gonna happen though because I am removing them as soon as I see them. I appreciate you responses Mr 95. I removed a lot of foliage today to get better airflow and bring humidity down. That’s what is recommended with Septoria. They are autos so I hope it wasn’t too much stress. I’m needing to do the bloom again. How long should I give plants to recover from pruning before fertilizing?
 
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Grownsince95 said:
You have to rule out leaf septoria first because that and Ca deficiency look surprisingly similar and I see some of the tell tale halo effect of early stage septoria.

I've never had it but I've made the mistake of misdiagnosing it for Ca on this very forum until people who went through it set me straight!

Just something to rule out because you'd much rather have a Ca problem.
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I cut out everything I could see yesterday and increased VPD to 1.2. I expected to see a leaf or two infected to but nothing so far. Hopefully in another day or two I won’t see any symptoms. I’m not very confident but who knows. I turned my dehumidifier back on (thought is was on) because that thing attracts and kills gnats like crazy. They’ve decreased too. 🙏 I’m not liking Miracle Grow anymore. It seems that the quality is not what it was. I saw that they have other mixes that include lava and supposedly is less like to attract gnats. Leaving link below. What do you think? If you have another preference please share. Thanks

Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing.



 
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Kindon67 said:
I cut out everything I could see yesterday and increased VPD to 1.2. I expected to see a leaf or two infected to but nothing so far. Hopefully in another day or two I won’t see any symptoms. I’m not very confident but who knows. I turned my dehumidifier back on (thought is was on) because that thing attracts and kills gnats like crazy. They’ve decreased too. 🙏 I’m not liking Miracle Grow anymore. It seems that the quality is not what it was. I saw that they have other mixes that include lava and supposedly is less like to attract gnats. Leaving link below. What do you think? If you have another preference please share. Thanks

Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing.



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miracle grow is not the problem, the problem is the human and your watering method,.
 
#28
GNick55 said:
miracle grow is not the problem, the problem is the human and your watering method,.
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Then where do you propose they came from. You can read everywhere that self watering bases is the best watering practice to prevent pests. So tell me what you think should be done better. And if you tell me to top feed I would have to ask you to google it before you respond. It is very important that I get good information when posting on this website. Your suggestion goes against EVERYTHING I have read. My plants are very healthy and happy except for this issue. Has nothing to do with self watering bases. The gnats don’t even go inside and I never see them on bases. My tent is cleaned thoroughly between crops and kept clean. If you read some of the organic fertilizers that Miracle grow have they even say that that kind of soil deters gnats. Why would they say that unless they know that other soils are more welcoming to gnats. And lastly, you can google reviews on Miracle grow and see others say that the quality has definitely gone downhill. You are only person that has ever said anything negative to me about self watering bases. And I’ve shared that when describing my environment many times.
 
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Kindon67 said:
I cut out everything I could see yesterday and increased VPD to 1.2. I expected to see a leaf or two infected to but nothing so far. Hopefully in another day or two I won’t see any symptoms. I’m not very confident but who knows. I turned my dehumidifier back on (thought is was on) because that thing attracts and kills gnats like crazy. They’ve decreased too. 🙏 I’m not liking Miracle Grow anymore. It seems that the quality is not what it was. I saw that they have other mixes that include lava and supposedly is less like to attract gnats. Leaving link below. What do you think? If you have another preference please share. Thanks

Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing.



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Thanks Mr. 95
Kindon67 said:
I cut out everything I could see yesterday and increased VPD to 1.2. I expected to see a leaf or two infected to but nothing so far. Hopefully in another day or two I won’t see any symptoms. I’m not very confident but who knows. I turned my dehumidifier back on (thought is was on) because that thing attracts and kills gnats like crazy. They’ve decreased too. 🙏 I’m not liking Miracle Grow anymore. It seems that the quality is not what it was. I saw that they have other mixes that include lava and supposedly is less like to attract gnats. Leaving link below. What do you think? If you have another preference please share. Thanks

Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing.



. I was looking at exactly that one last night. Confirmation is always nice. Please explain to
Kindon67 said:
I cut out everything I could see yesterday and increased VPD to 1.2. I expected to see a leaf or two infected to but nothing so far. Hopefully in another day or two I won’t see any symptoms. I’m not very confident but who knows. I turned my dehumidifier back on (thought is was on) because that thing attracts and kills gnats like crazy. They’ve decreased too. 🙏 I’m not liking Miracle Grow anymore. It seems that the quality is not what it was. I saw that they have other mixes that include lava and supposedly is less like to attract gnats. Leaving link below. What do you think? If you have another preference please share. Thanks

Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing.



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Thank you. That’s exactly the same one. I was looking at last night. It’s nice to have confirmation. Maybe you can explain to Nick why self watering bases is not the problem. Top of soil is staying pretty dry which is what I’ve read needs to be to prevent pests. My leave have no sign of watering problem. Thanks again stay high
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Nick knows alot so I wouldn't dismiss the help he gives.

Some soils come with gnat larva from the manufacturer. Watering habits brings them to life. If nothing changes, they'll get worse. They suck, I know.

I had a gnat population that exploded. I tried to correct my watering habits, and allow for a dry back. Unless you are running living soil.

I read around. You can get d.e. to sprinkle the top lair. It's supposed to kill the gnats as they fly. Get sticky traps. I also used peroxide and water, it's supposed to kill the eggs.

Not sure if it worked.
 
#31
well continue to google and use the internet to help you than if you believe it,..
how long you been growing?
how long have i been growing?
you say only one plant well lets see some pics of your other plants and some canopy pics and i’ll bet ill find issues with everyone of your plants,..
 
#32
Halloweed said:
Nick knows alot so I wouldn't dismiss the help he gives.

Some soils come with gnat larva from the manufacturer. Watering habits brings them to life. If nothing changes, they'll get worse. They suck, I know.

I had a gnat population that exploded. I tried to correct my watering habits, and allow for a dry back. Unless you are running living soil.

I read around. You can get d.e. to sprinkle the top lair. It's supposed to kill the gnats as they fly. Get sticky traps. I also used peroxide and water, it's supposed to kill the eggs.

Not sure if it worked.
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Nick was barking at me without suggesting a solution. He mentioned water twice without any helpful input twice. I think they call that trolling. I don’t respond to that. What I am is open to suggestions and explanations and I appreciate the help. Yet, I still have to decide what I want to apply or let fly. I’m still standing firm on the self watering bases. They are mentioned as being beneficial for numerous reasons. I don’t have to ever over or under water then wait until the leaves are showing signs and already being effected. Since using them my leaves stay green with no watering issues. But really the gnats haven’t been an issue until this happened. There is definitely no like infestation but there are some. None is what we want but I might see like 5-10 when I’m in tent watering. I mentioned that my dehumidifier kills a huge majority of them. But if this plant truly has Septoria then I should expect for it to continue and even worsen. I cut out every leaf I found and we will see. Fingers crossed.
GNick55 said:
well continue to google and use the internet to help you than if you believe it,..
how long you been growing?
how long have i been growing?
you say only one plant well lets see some pics of your other plants and some canopy pics and i’ll bet ill find issues with everyone of
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GNick55 said:
well continue to google and use the internet to help you than if you believe it,..
how long you been growing?
how long have i been growing?
you say only one plant well lets see some pics of your other plants and some canopy pics and i’ll bet ill find issues with everyone of your plants,..
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You still have not offered a suggestion or explanation. I’m glad you have so much knowledge. Are you going to share the knowledge or gloat.
 
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so i’m barking at you?
i’ve told you what your issue is and you don’t agree, so be it,..
 
#34
GNick55 said:
so i’m barking at you?
i’ve told you what your issue is and you don’t agree, so be it,..
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So I’ve said why I feel the way I do about the bases. Now I would expect your reasons for your point and maybe what you would suggest differently. Then I can make a decision with more information. And I’d be grateful for what you have to say. Can’t say I will agree but at least both our points get across.
 
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Kindon67 said:
So I’ve said why I feel the way I do about the bases. Now I would expect your reasons for your point and maybe what you would suggest differently. Then I can make a decision with more information. And I’d be grateful for what you have to say. Can’t say I will agree but at least both our points get across.
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ok i will a little later,, im transplanting so give me sometime,,
 
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GNick55 said:
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This still lacks suggestions. I’m out. We can send stuff off internet that supports both theories until the end of time. What I need is to hear what you do, how you do it and the experience you’ve had with it. Please Otherwise let me find my own way. Just a heads up: it’s been two days since I cut out affected leaves and so far no sign of any more. Could be it was never Septoria to begin with. Yes the pots stay a little moist but the top stays dry and that helps. My plants are consuming a minimum of 3/4 gallon a day. I consider that another sign of healthy plants
Kindon67 said:
Well I don’t think it got me any further along. It seems that I’d have to let the leaves go and see what the late effects are. That’s not gonna happen though because I am removing them as soon as I see them. I appreciate you responses Mr 95. I removed a lot of foliage today to get better airflow and bring humidity down. That’s what is recommended with Septoria. They are autos so I hope it wasn’t too much stress. I’m needing to do the bloom again. How long should I give plants to recover from pruning before fertilizing?
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Hello, the macro lens came today and I took some pics. There doesn’t seem to be any black specks in middle. I’m attaching a couple screenshots I’ve taken after expanding as far as I can with camera app. That way if we lose resolution on upload you can still see well. Let me know what you think. Thanks
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#38
to me yes it’s septoria and or black spot disease,..
your area of soil that is staying moist is the reason the gnats and their larvee are thriving and most likely the reason for the septoria,..
soil needs to dry out before watering but your keeping part of your soil moist all the time,. that’s a big no no,..
 
#39
GNick55 said:
to me yes it’s septoria and or black spot disease,..
your area of soil that is staying moist is the reason the gnats and their larvee are thriving and most likely the reason for the septoria,..
soil needs to dry out before watering but your keeping part of your soil moist all the time,. that’s a big no no,..
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Ok what about compromising? I’ll continue to use bases but let them go dry before refilling? I really like how the leaves never show signs of watering issue. I also want to add that even when I top watered I still had gnats. The plants would suck up as much water as I gave them every day. As I mentioned before that’s 3/4 of a gallon every day. I did have gnats but no diseases. And I want to ask again about soil. These plants are in a grow tent in my bedroom. I can’t imagine where they would come from. My in-line fan vents outside but I don’t think they could overcome the airflow and get through filter. I still think they are in the soil and becoming active once I start watering. Miracle grow has organic soil that states it resistant to gnats. To me that means they know their other soils are known to have this issue. Ok I’m all ears but please explain your reasoning. I’m very intelligent and your input will not fall on “dumb ears”.
 
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Kindon67 said:
Ok what about compromising? I’ll continue to use bases but let them go dry before refilling? I really like how the leaves never show signs of watering issue. I also want to add that even when I top watered I still had gnats. The plants would suck up as much water as I gave them every day. As I mentioned before that’s 3/4 of a gallon every day. I did have gnats but no diseases. And I want to ask again about soil. These plants are in a grow tent in my bedroom. I can’t imagine where they would come from. My in-line fan vents outside but I don’t think they could overcome the airflow and get through filter. I still think they are in the soil and becoming active once I start watering. Miracle grow has organic soil that states it resistant to gnats. To me that means they know their other soils are known to have this issue. Ok I’m all ears but please explain your reasoning. I’m very intelligent and your input will not fall on “dumb ears”.
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mmm how to explain,.
ok so take mildew spores,. they are everywhere even in your bedroom, provide the right environment and the mildew will grow and survive,. you have created an environment for the life cycle of the gnat to survive and repopulate,..
yes i would allow your soil to dry further,. marijuana does not like a consistent moist soil,.
 
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