One plant, roll the dice

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Hello and respect,
I am just getting started, i have one plant, OG Kush,
My thinking was one plant would get more light than two in my grow box, i am having cupping problems, i have moved the lights up and turned down my house thermostat and im monitoring the water in the soil.
I hope this solves the problem.
Anyway, i am honored to be here and im looking forward to learning about this amazing plant,
Motokahn
 
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Welcome to the Farm!

Post up some pictures and growing details such as medium, nutrients, etc and you will get all the help you need from the amazing members here!
 
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Welcome to the Farm!

Post up some pictures and growing details such as medium, nutrients, etc and you will get all the help you need from the amazing members here!
Thanks,
I am using a green goddess Armoire,
Full spectrum led
5 gallons bag
Humbolt happy frog soil
I haven’t added any nutrients
 
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She is OG Kush 11days old
I had gnats but got rid of them
I moved the lights up, stopped watering, the moisture meter is maxed out near the bottom of the plant, and turned the house heating down, the temp in the box was 90 when i check it, the colder days cause the home heat to come on and heat the grow room
 
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I moved the lights up, stopped watering, the moisture meter is maxed out near the bottom of the plant, and turned the house heating down, the temp in the box was 90 when i check it, the colder days cause the home heat to come on and heat the grow room
Does look like a leaf curl caused by heat and/or humidity/moisture issues.

What's your humidity sitting at?

Does your light have a dimmer?
 
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Does look like a leaf curl caused by heat and/or humidity/moisture issues.

What's your humidity sitting at?

Does your light have a dimmer?
Yes the lights are controlled, i have them at around 30%, i have moved them up, i dont know what the humidity level is, i can get a meter, if it lower than i need could i place a bowl of water in the box?
 
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Yes the lights are controlled, i have them at around 30%, i have moved them up, i dont know what the humidity level is, i can get a meter, if it lower than i need could i place a bowl of water in the box?
Moving the light up like you did should help.
Depending on the size of the box, a bowl of water could help.

Do you have an exhaust and everything in the box for air flow?

I do want to say that it looks like you're doing a good job 👍
 
Motokahn

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Yes the lights are controlled, i have them at around 30%, i have moved them up, i dont know what the humidity level is, i can get a meter, if it lower than i need could i place a bowl of water in the

Do you have a fan pointed at her?
Good call,
I did have a small fan blowing directly on her, i just got through sending the air to a different area, she moves a little every now n then, it looks better,
Thanks for getting back to me
 
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Hello and respect,
I am just getting started, i have one plant, OG Kush,
My thinking was one plant would get more light than two in my grow box, i am having cupping problems, i have moved the lights up and turned down my house thermostat and im monitoring the water in the soil.
I hope this solves the problem.
Anyway, i am honored to be here and im looking forward to learning about this amazing plant,
Motokahn


Its the Happy Frog...

I use FFHF as well and all of my young plants start off with a little leaf curl. I start seedlings in a pete pellet, no issues, no curling, but immediately after transplanting to happy frog, my leaves twist and curl badly... This has happened to me on 5 different grows. I continue to use Happy Frog soil, my plants turn out great in the end, just a little rough to start.

The good news is that the problem goes away once the plant goes into full veg. Maybe Happy Frog is a little too hot for seedlings? (I'm planning to try Fox Farm light warrior for my next grow, Seedling's and early veg, then move to HF)

Pic- Day 1 transplant to Happy Frog

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Little rough a few days after moving to Happy Frog

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Seems to clear up as the top nodes set in..

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Later in Veg---


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Its the Happy Frog...

I use FFHF as well and all of my young plants start off with a little leaf curl. I start seedlings in a pete pellet, no issues, no curling, but immediately after transplanting to happy frog, my leaves twist and curl badly... This has happened to me on 5 different grows. I continue to use Happy Frog soil, my plants turn out great in the end, just a little rough to start.

The good news is that the problem goes away once the plant goes into full veg. Maybe Happy Frog is a little too hot for seedlings? (I'm planning to try Fox Farm light warrior for my next grow, Seedling's and early veg, then move to HF)

Pic- Day 1 transplant to Happy Frog

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Little rough a few days after moving to Happy Frog

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Seems to clear up as the top nodes set in..

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Later in Veg---


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I've started seedlings in Happy Frog exclusively for years, never had a leaf curl issue from the soil. They stay in Happy Frog and solo cups all the way up to transplant.
I also transplant my seedlings to final pots with 2 parts Ocean Forest to 1 part Happy Frog.

My experience is when you get leaf curl as a seedling.... the medium was to wet, a spray bottle was used and mist got on the leaves, or a combination of moisture and heat.

Seedlings leaves are really close to the soil/medium when they're young so water from the medium can have more of an impact of leaves.
 
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I've started seedlings in Happy Frog exclusively for years, never had a leaf curl issue from the soil. They stay in Happy Frog and solo cups all the way up to transplant.
I also transplant my seedlings to final pots with 2 parts Ocean Forest to 1 part Happy Frog.

My experience is when you get leaf curl as a seedling.... the medium was to wet, a spray bottle was used and mist got on the leaves, or a combination of moisture and heat.

Seedlings leaves are really close to the soil/medium when they're young so water from the medium can have more of an impact of leaves.

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree than won't we?

Happy Frog has caused me slight leaf wrinkle in 5 grows now, not sure why. I'm tired of arguing with you. Are you chasing my threads with opposing view points? I'm trying to be helpful, your not.

Side note: tried ignoring your name, but its blocked. So, please know that I will not read any of your replies incoming... I'll leave this thread to you now, wont be back. Carry on.
 
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SkidsGrassStation

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First timer here as well with a 1 plant grow (Skunk XL) in a 2x2x4.

The FFHF soil seems to be a little hot for the babies. But with time and good genetics they will bounce back.

Mine had burnt tips and curl for the first few weeks

And maybe check your humidity. Had a funky time with my RH driopping due to weather and she started flipping leaves upside down and back up over the course of the day.
 
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Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree than won't we?

Happy Frog has caused me slight leaf wrinkle in 5 grows now, not sure why. I'm tired of arguing with you. Are you chasing my threads with opposing view points? I'm trying to be helpful, your not.

Side note: tried ignoring your name, but its blocked. So, please know that I will not read any of your replies incoming... I'll leave this thread to you now, wont be back. Carry on.
If you read the reply, I told you why you're getting leaf wrinkle.
I've used Happy Frog for years, as well as plenty of other people without the leaf curl you're experiencing.

I'm not chasing your threads?
I was the only one giving replies at first in this thread so if anything you're chasing me 🤣

I was trying to help you to look at other parameters in your grow.....my bad....

I'm a very helpful and kind supporter of this forum that helps quite a few people and engages in friendly and fun conversations.

Check my post history 👍

Idk why I'm trying to help someone who just joined this forum and is just simply rude and ignorant.
I guess it's in my friendly and helpful nature.
You drew blood at supporting manufacturers and now me?! What's the deal?
Go look at that manufacturers post, reason why everyone liked my post and not yours, because how you acted toward the manufacturer and how I defended them...

idk why I'm defending myself either, my history on this forum speaks for itself.

Sorry for trying to help you in the early stages of your grow.
If you don't like confrontation, better stay away from Capt 😂
 
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First timer here as well with a 1 plant grow (Skunk XL) in a 2x2x4.

The FFHF soil seems to be a little hot for the babies. But with time and good genetics they will bounce back.

Mine had burnt tips and curl for the first few weeks

And maybe check your humidity. Had a funky time with my RH driopping due to weather and she started flipping leaves upside down and back up over the course of the day.
Ocean Forest is the one they say is hot for babies.
In reality though, there's no such thing as "hot" soil.
There's been some bags of Ocean Forest that people say the PH is off and therefore effects plants like it's "hot".

I'm an exclusive Happy Frog for seed starting and seedlings, never experienced any of the issues described.
Only with excess moisture and/or heat.
 
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Ocean Forest is the one they say is hot for babies.
In reality though, there's no such thing as "hot" soil.
There's been some bags of Ocean Forest that people say the PH is off and therefore effects plants like it's "hot".

I'm an exclusive Happy Frog for seed starting and seedlings, never experienced any of the issues described.
Only with excess moisture and/or heat.
It’s all such a relative game 😂 never a definitive answer until your in the room with the plant.

All I know is early on my VPD reading and Temp/RH for seedling we’re pretty standard until the cold snap here in the south. I’m going to continue using HF until I find something that works better for ME! Again not the best for everyone. Just me. And I think that’s where all this infighting has come from. We’re all here to help us grow and as somebody who doesn’t necessarily mind confrontation I can also say it’s not always needed.

Nobody here is the enemy, that’s the government folks. We are all the same breed, same heart. We all just want to grow wonderful medicine and make connections doing it.

I hate seeing the drama, whether it’s all of the cali cannabis news, weedtuber bs, or even growers online.
 
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It’s all such a relative game 😂 never a definitive answer until your in the room with the plant.

All I know is early on my VPD reading and Temp/RH for seedling we’re pretty standard until the cold snap here in the south. I’m going to continue using HF until I find something that works better for ME! Again not the best for everyone. Just me. And I think that’s where all this infighting has come from. We’re all here to help us grow and as somebody who doesn’t necessarily mind confrontation I can also say it’s not always needed.

Nobody here is the enemy, that’s the government folks. We are all the same breed, same heart. We all just want to grow wonderful medicine and make connections doing it.

I hate seeing the drama, whether it’s all of the cali cannabis news, weedtuber bs, or even growers online.
I completely agree.
I was just trying to help the kid and wants to take everything the wrong way because I called him out for talking crap on a manufacturer so now he is holding a grudge.
It is what it is....
I forgive and forget and was genuinely trying to help them.

If it was Happy Frogs fault then why would I never experience the issue and plenty of others never experience the issue?
It's not the soil, it's environmental parameters and watering practices.

If you don't like the Happy Frog, try Light Warrior for seedlings instead.
Lots of growers like the Light Warrior for young plants.
 
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