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You should not be trying to pH the feeds. The soil will do it anyway.Thought I'd share a mix that I've found works well with auto's. It's free draining and lower in worm castings, but fully organic and will feed the plants for the first crucial 2-3 weeks. I then top dress with a bloom mix and worm castings, followed two weeks later with bloom 2 (livingsoilsfertiliser.com). The easy part is watering with de-chlorinated plain water ph'd to 6.5-6.9.
2 parts compost (I use gold label special mix light - Dutch blend, with white peat and Swedish clay)
1 part perlite (large grade, if possible)
1 tbsp / gal - volcanic rock dust
1 tbsp / gal - sprouted barley malt (livingsoils)
2 tbsp / gal - grow (livingsoils)
1/2 tbsp / gal - bloom (livingsoils)
2.5ml / gal - garden lime
2 tbsp / gal - seaweed meal
N. B. Water lightly with de-chlorinated water with biosys (microbes) and cook for two weeks before use.
Hope its of use/conversation.
Happy growing!
I have to pH everything to 5.7ish or my plants will not grow, doesn't matter what medium I am growing in. And look at the link you posted, there are many purple leaf stems which for me has always been a indication that pH needs to be fixed.You should not be trying to pH the feeds. The soil will do it anyway.
If you do this and mix everything in the soil before planting, you will never need to feed them.
This is how we do it: SF1000 goes Organic in our 2x4 | THCFarmer
And yes, we run Photos, Fems (not so much anymore) and autos in this mix.
Thought I'd share a mix that I've found works well with auto's. It's free draining and lower in worm castings, but fully organic and will feed the plants for the first crucial 2-3 weeks. I then top dress with a bloom mix and worm castings, followed two weeks later with bloom 2 (livingsoilsfertiliser.com). The easy part is watering with de-chlorinated plain water ph'd to 6.5-6.9.
2 parts compost (I use gold label special mix light - Dutch blend, with white peat and Swedish clay)
1 part perlite (large grade, if possible)
1 tbsp / gal - volcanic rock dust
1 tbsp / gal - sprouted barley malt (livingsoils)
2 tbsp / gal - grow (livingsoils)
1/2 tbsp / gal - bloom (livingsoils)
2.5ml / gal - garden lime
2 tbsp / gal - seaweed meal
N. B. Water lightly with de-chlorinated water with biosys (microbes) and cook for two weeks before use.
Hope its of use/conversation.
Happy growing!
Those purple stems are there on purpose. They are caused by low temps at night.I have to pH everything to 5.7ish or my plants will not grow, doesn't matter what medium I am growing in. And look at the link you posted, there are many purple leaf stems which for me has always been a indication that pH needs to be fixed.
No those are clearly pH purpling. I have plants outside A week ago, near freezing, frost on roof tops, completely green plants.Those purple stems are there on purpose. They are caused by low temps at night.
Your soil sux if you have to keep pHing it. What do you have in it?
pH, Temps, it doesn't even matter. The plant does what it wants and all we need do is water.No those are clearly pH purpling. I have plants outside A week ago, near freezing, frost on roof tops, completely green plants.
there is more in my soil than I care to list again, but I don’t believe it’s the soil that sucks nearly as much as my tap water, pulling the pH out of range over time.
Ive never heard of or seen a soil/soil mix, that requires no care to maintain optimal pH or even decent pH levels using every watering source that everyone has, I would like to, can you show me?
pH, Temps, it doesn't even matter. The plant does what it wants and all we need do is water.
Read it here --> SF1000 goes Organic in our 2x4 | THCFarmer
Yes. If you saw it already then you know what we use, I'm not going to repeat it. A living soil that does not need to be fed. You can cause issues by feeding it.is that the same link you already posted? I’m not gonna look at it again.
Tell me a soil that can use any water source and the pH of the water doesn’t matter, since that is what you implied.
Yes. If you saw it already then you know what we use, I'm not going to repeat it. A living soil that does not need to be fed. You can cause issues by feeding it.
That's not necessarily true for all plants, and I for one LOVE the Purple colors on any Purple strain, and we have NO pH issues, never did, and never will, not with the way we grow!I have to pH everything to 5.7ish or my plants will not grow, doesn't matter what medium I am growing in. And look at the link you posted, there are many purple leaf stems which for me has always been a indication that pH needs to be fixed.
I'm using almost all the same stuff as @ComfortablyNumb only my base soil is different I have FFOF not roots organic and I have checked my soil ph and I have no issues. My plants also have purple stems and such and guess how they did that from temp at night being cold. you are rude brother and this man knows his shit with organics. Before he helped me all I did was kill my plants LOL now there thrivingso maybe open yer ears and shut yer mouth for a minute.
The fact that we filter our water could very well have something to do with it.You guys are talking past one another in here. CN is correct in saying organics don't need pH balance; but that comes with a caveat. ie. The original starting ppm of the water. pH doesn't matter if your water is say <<<50 ppm or so; ever. It's not the pH of water; but the solids dissolved in it. Lets look at a basic explanation of what pH is... pH will naturally auto correct itself in the substrate; "if" the water is fairly pure....
If your using water to change the pH in an organic grow; your almost always fighting a losing battle.
In chemistry, pH historically denoting "potential of hydrogen" (or "power of hydrogen")is a exponential scale used to specify the acidity or basicity of an aqueous solution. Acidic solutions (solutions with higher concentrations of H+ ions) are measured to have lower pH values than basic or alkaline solutions. Note that highlighted word there. So ever 0.1 the pH differs; it doubles the solute (particulate solids) in the solution. 1=x10
So it's not the pH of the water that matters; but the ppm of the water itself. HARD WATER=THE BAD!!!
If your running hard water; and need to pH it for your plants to grow; that could be a (possible) viable solution (if your lucky) and the dissolved substances in it; line themselves up with the needs of the plant. However; that would require local water analysis (google it) if it's not from a well source.... Send the link to me for review; if you need assistance deciphering the results.
That said; Any water >50ppm (300ppm) appears exceptionally troublesome to me; and I would be either filtering it; or simply letting it settle in a big bucket; then dipping it out after >48hrs, and then discarding the bottom 1/3rd; taking care to not stir up the solids while dipping out the water. (siphoning would be the simplest means); or better yet, installing a RO system or running it though charcoals.
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Purpling in stems is either genetic (most often in Indica dom strains) or it's a magnesium issue; not a pH related phenomena. If your getting purple stems from ph'd water. It's being somehow squeezed out of the picture by acid. Could also be cause by plant producing natural purple pigments (anthocyanin) in response to ultraviolet (UV) light. This is a complicated subject; so you need to inspect more deeply than color itself.
Note how Mg++ Ca++ is often the easiest element squeezed by pH
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Mahalo @Frankster, that's some GOOD stuff right there!You guys are talking past one another in here. CN is correct in saying organics don't need pH balance; but that comes with a caveat. ie. The original starting ppm of the water. pH doesn't matter if your water is say <<<50 ppm or so; ever. It's not the pH of water; but the solids dissolved in it. Lets look at a basic explanation of what pH is... pH will naturally auto correct itself in the substrate; "if" the water is fairly pure....
If your using water to change the pH in an organic grow; your almost always fighting a losing battle.
In chemistry, pH historically denoting "potential of hydrogen" (or "power of hydrogen")is a exponential scale used to specify the acidity or basicity of an aqueous solution. Acidic solutions (solutions with higher concentrations of H+ ions) are measured to have lower pH values than basic or alkaline solutions. Note that highlighted word there. So ever 0.1 the pH differs; it doubles the solute (particulate solids) in the solution. 1=x10
So it's not the pH of the water that matters; but the ppm of the water itself. HARD WATER=THE BAD!!!
If your running hard water; and need to pH it for your plants to grow; that could be a (possible) viable solution (if your lucky) and the dissolved substances in it; line themselves up with the needs of the plant. However; that would require local water analysis (google it) if it's not from a well source.... Send the link to me for review; if you need assistance deciphering the results.
That said; Any water >50ppm (300ppm) appears exceptionally troublesome to me; and I would be either filtering it; or simply letting it settle in a big bucket; then dipping it out after >48hrs, and then discarding the bottom 1/3rd; taking care to not stir up the solids while dipping out the water. (siphoning would be the simplest means); or better yet, installing a RO system or running it though charcoals.
Next subject;
Purpling in stems is either genetic (most often in Indica dom strains) or it's a magnesium issue; not a pH related phenomena. If your getting purple stems from ph'd water. It's being somehow squeezed out of the picture by acid. Could also be cause by plant producing natural purple pigments (anthocyanin) in response to ultraviolet (UV) light. This is a complicated subject; so you need to inspect more deeply than color itself.
Note how Mg++ Ca++ is often the easiest element squeezed by pH
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Ugh...The "secret" is outta the bag now, j/k!The fact that we filter our water could very well have something to do with it.
That's pretty much the way we look at it.In nature; water is pure; cause it comes from the clouds... so we need to mimic that process as best as possible.
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