Our First House, First Grow

Buzzy12 · Oct 18, 2022

Wholly Mackerel is actually a Fox Farm product, but Advanced Nutrients does have some good names, every product has a "mascot" with their own name. I'm doing things completely different with my grow vs the grow op. At the grow op we were using Mother's Earth Coco when I got there and Cyco (the green bags). Some rooms had one and other rooms had the other. We used the 3 gal grow bags from Rio Coco for the tables that got installed in three of the six Flower rooms. Of all the coco coir products I've seen and/or worked with, Rio Coco is the best quality.

They were using House and Garden when I first got there with some success and decided to give Athena a try, like just about every other commercial operation. It's crazy to me how far Athena has come in such a short period of time, but that's what the power of social media can do when somebody like the Jungle Boys switches their feeding schedule to Athena. Advanced Nutrients was even forced to make a very similar product because so much of their market share has been taken away by Athena. Coco and salt based nutrients vs organic soil and organic nutrients. My plants smell way better than anything we ever produced at the grow op. I'm a firm believer in organic fertilizers in living soil is the best medium to produce the best terpene profile. And I've never done a cost analysis for Athena vs Advanced Nutrients, but AN is not as expensive as you would think. Just about all of their products are 2 mL/L rates, very potent products, decent cost per application. Fox Farm's products are more expensive per application.
Some more pics from the old job.

sportyridr · Oct 18, 2022

Buzzy12 said:
Wholly Mackerel is actually a Fox Farm product, but Advanced Nutrients does have some good names, every product has a "mascot" with their own name. I'm doing things completely different with my grow vs the grow op. At the grow op we were using Mother's Earth Coco when I got there and Cyco (the green bags). Some rooms had one and other rooms had the other. We used the 3 gal grow bags from Rio Coco for the tables that got installed in three of the six Flower rooms. Of all the coco coir products I've seen and/or worked with, Rio Coco is the best quality.

They were using House and Garden when I first got there with some success and decided to give Athena a try, like just about every other commercial operation. It's crazy to me how far Athena has come in such a short period of time, but that's what the power of social media can do when somebody like the Jungle Boys switches their feeding schedule to Athena. Advanced Nutrients was even forced to make a very similar product because so much of their market share has been taken away by Athena. Coco and salt based nutrients vs organic soil and organic nutrients. My plants smell way better than anything we ever produced at the grow op. I'm a firm believer in organic fertilizers in living soil is the best medium to produce the best terpene profile. And I've never done a cost analysis for Athena vs Advanced Nutrients, but AN is not as expensive as you would think. Just about all of their products are 2 mL/L rates, very potent products, decent cost per application. Fox Farm's products are more expensive per application.

Nice, thanks for the info on the Coco & Nutes . I'm always open for options so I'll give em a look for down the road.

Not sure when I'll go back to soil. Only did soil a short time when I started but It will be coming back at some point, just don't know when. I suppose when I get tired of the work with the Coco and slow it down some. that'll be when. My BIL is a soil grower, both in n out...he's got the flavor n terps...I've got the kickass weed lol...The Mr. Fulvic I use gives the organic flavor albeit not as strong as soil grown but its there...especially when I vape

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Buzzy12 · Oct 18, 2022

Day 30 of Flower, fed the Colombian Miracle plants 3500 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Iguana Juice Bloom @ 4 mL/L, Big Bud @ 2 mL/L, Nirvana @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Sensizym Organic @ 2 mL/L, Big Mike's OG Tea @ 2 mL/L, Bud Candy @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2.5 mL/L. Fed the 5 gal plants 5000 mL each of the same solution. I adjusted the lights a bit because I think I was pushing them a bit too hard. I started to see lighter colored growth on the tops closest to the lights. It could also be heat stress. The room has gotten up to 88° at times in an effort to reduce the RH down to 55-60%.

Fed the Colombian Miracle clones 120 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Azos @ 1 tsp/3 L, gave the Mother plants 1000 mL each of the same solution. I sprayed the Mother plants with Grow Safe @ 25 mL/32 oz for some Powdery Mildew. I think it's when I cranked up the humidity is when the plants started to go the other way. I was running the tents at 78°/85-90%RH and that's just too moist. I changed it to 80°/65-70%RH and we'll see if that helps.

And the new Mother plant clones are 9 days from being cut and still no sign of roots yet.

Buzzy12 · Oct 20, 2022

Week 5 Day 4 of Flower, fed the 3 gal plants 3500 mL each, the 5 gal plants 5000 mL, and the 10 gal plants 8000 mL of a 6.2 pH solution of Iguana Juice Bloom @ 4 mL/L, Big Bud @ 2 mL/L, Nirvana @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Sensizym Organic @ 2 mL/L, Big Mike's OG Tea @ 2 mL/L, Bud Candy @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2.5 mL/L.

Some of my favorite flowers from my favorite Colombian Miracle plants.
#4

#5

#7

#8

#12

SSgrower · Oct 21, 2022

When I moved from Apt. to a house it was very nice to grow without so much worry,Cheers SS

Buzzy12 · Oct 22, 2022

Day 34 of Flower, gave the Colombian Miracle plants 3500 mL each of a 6.2 pH solution of Orca @ 3 mL/4 L. Gave the 5 gal plants 5000 mL each of the same solution.

Fed the Colombian Miracle clones a 6.3 pH solution of Iguana Juice Grow @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2.5 mL/L, Voodoo Juice @ 2 mL/L, Piranha @ 2 mL/L, Kelp Me Kelp You @ 10 mL/4 L, Hygrozyme @ 2.5 mL/L, B-52 @ 2 mL/L. Fed the Mother plants 2500 mL each of the same solution. The Colombian Miracle plants have grown quite a bit the last few days.

Buzzy12 · Oct 23, 2022

Day 35 of Flower, gave the 10 gal plants 8000 mL each of a 6.2 pH solution of Orca @ 3 mL/4 L. Trichome production is pumping right now.

My favorite 5 plants out of the 10 through 5 weeks of Flower for the Colombian Miracle plants are #4 and #5 (both showing the most Sativa traits of any of the plants), #7, #8, and #12 (the frostiest plant of the bunch)

#4

#5

#7

#8

#12

Still at least another 4 weeks of growth to go, very impressed with the Colombian Miracle strain from Cap.

Buzzy12 · Oct 23, 2022

I got the room at 80° with the lights on, drops to about 70° at night. The RH is staying consistently between 55-60%. I checked the leaf temperatures thanks to a very helpful thread from @Aperkins1972 , that was certainly an undervalued environmental factor. @Aqua Man deserves credit for that helpful information too, thank you both. The leaf temps were definitely too hot for a bit when I had the lights closer to maximize the PPFD. I've since backed the lights off and opened a couple of vents in the tent to lower the temperature. We're now between 800-1250 PPFD and the leaf temps are between 73-79°. The plants are loving life! And so much for the high CO2 concentration theory in the big open basement @sportyridr I bought an inkbird plus CO2 monitor + hygrometer and it's reading around 475 ppm outside the tent and closer to 400 ppm inside the tent. The Colombian Miracle strain is just a heavy producer.

Aqua Man · Oct 23, 2022

Buzzy12 said:
I got the room at 80° with the lights on, drops to about 70° at night. The RH is staying consistently between 55-60%. I checked the leaf temperatures thanks to a very helpful thread from @Aperkins1972 , that was certainly an undervalued environmental factor. @Aqua Man deserves credit for that helpful information too, thank you both. The leaf temps were definitely too hot for a bit when I had the lights closer to maximize the PPFD. I've since backed the lights off and opened a couple of vents in the tent to lower the temperature. We're now between 800-1250 PPFD and the leaf temps are between 73-79°. The plants are loving life! And so much for the high CO2 concentration theory in the big open basement @sportyridr I bought an inkbird plus CO2 monitor + hygrometer and it's reading around 475 ppm outside the tent and closer to 400 ppm inside the tent. The Colombian Miracle strain is just a heavy producer.

Thats still a touch higher than atmospheric levels… basements usually around 600-1000ppm ut that depends on a lot

sportyridr · Oct 23, 2022

Buzzy12 said:
I got the room at 80° with the lights on, drops to about 70° at night. The RH is staying consistently between 55-60%. I checked the leaf temperatures thanks to a very helpful thread from @Aperkins1972 , that was certainly an undervalued environmental factor. @Aqua Man deserves credit for that helpful information too, thank you both. The leaf temps were definitely too hot for a bit when I had the lights closer to maximize the PPFD. I've since backed the lights off and opened a couple of vents in the tent to lower the temperature. We're now between 800-1250 PPFD and the leaf temps are between 73-79°. The plants are loving life! And so much for the high CO2 concentration theory in the big open basement @sportyridr I bought an inkbird plus CO2 monitor + hygrometer and it's reading around 475 ppm outside the tent and closer to 400 ppm inside the tent. The Colombian Miracle strain is just a heavy producer.

Sounds like your dial is getting closer to center with the setup, very nice.

Pretty sure I was just passing on that info I heard from Aqua albeit poorly lol. The plants are stacking up thick from the looks here.

Buzzy12 · Oct 24, 2022

Week 6 Day 1 of Flower, gave the Colombian Miracle plants 3000 mL each of a 6.2 pH solution of Orca @ 3 mL/4 L. Gave the 5 gal plants 5000 mL each of the same solution.

Gave the Mother plants 3000 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Azos @ 1 tsp/3L. Gave the Colombian Miracle clones 250 mL each of the same solution.

Buzzy12 · Oct 26, 2022

Day 38 of Flower, gave the Colombian Miracle plants 3000 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Orca @ 3 mL/4 L. Gave the 5 gal plants 5000 mL each of the same solution. Fed the 10 gal plants 8000 mL each of Iguana Juice Bloom @ 4 mL/L, Big Bud @ 2 mL/L, Nirvana @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Sensizym Organic @ 2 mL/L, Big Mike's OG Tea @ 2 mL/L, Bud Candy @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2.5 mL/L.

Also fed the Colombian Miracle clones 300 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Iguana Juice Grow @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2.5 mL/L, Kelp Me Kelp You @ 10 mL/4L, Wholly Mackerel @ 15 mL/4 L, Hygrozyme @ 2.5 mL/L. Fed the Mother Plants 3000 mL each of the same solution.

And the 4 clones I cut for 2 new Mother plants finally rooted. Put them in half gal containers.

Buzzy12 · Oct 28, 2022

Day 40 of Flower, fed the 3 gal plants 3500 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Iguana Juice Bloom @ 4 mL/L, Big Bud @ 2 mL/L, Nirvana @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Sensizym Organic @ 2 mL/L, Big Mike's OG Tea @ 2 mL/L, Bud Candy @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2.5 mL/L. Fed the 5 gal plants 5000 mL each of the same solution. Had to finally put some stakes up, flowers are getting heavy.

The 5 gal M.A.C. and Flintstones aren't dong that great, but the flowers are sticky and getting super frosty.
Flintstones

M.A.C.

These two plants are starting to separate themselves from the field in the Colombian Miracle phenohunt. #7 and #12 have looked excellent every step of the way.
#7

#12
Also gave the Mother plants 3000 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Azos @ 1 tbsp/2.5 gal. The Colombian Miracle clones got 250 mL each of the same solution. They're doing a lot better since I dropped the RH to 60-65%. The new clones got 150 mL each to soak the soil.

Buzzy12 · Oct 29, 2022

Week 6 Day 6 of Flower, gave the 10 gal plants 8000 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Orca @ 3 mL/4 L.

sportyridr · Oct 30, 2022

Looking great, I did notice the Mac's were a bit behind the update before last but just attributed that to the MAC genetics...still coming nicely man. The one & only cross I grew with Mac in it went 12 weeks, turned almost black...

They give a pretty wide finish time for the Columbian of 9 - 12 weeks from the link. I gather the longer the better with that strain....

Buzzy12 · Oct 30, 2022

sportyridr said:
Looking great, I did notice the Mac's were a bit behind the update before last but just attributed that to the MAC genetics...still coming nicely man. The one & only cross I grew with Mac in it went 12 weeks, turned almost black...

They give a pretty wide finish time for the Columbian of 9 - 12 weeks from the link. I gather the longer the better with that strain....

The M.A.C. plants should be ready to harvest after 9 weeks of Flower and I'm actually thinking the opposite, the earlier the better. I'm looking for the best 9-10 weeker for the Colombian Miracle phenohunt.

Buzzy12 · Oct 30, 2022

Day 42 of Flower, fed the Colombian Miracle plants 3000 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Iguana Juice Bloom @ 4 mL/L, Big Bud @ 2 mL/L, Nirvana @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Sensizym Organic @ 2 mL/L, Big Mike's OG Tea @ 2 mL/L, Bud Candy @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2.5 mL/L. The 5 gal plants got 5000 mL each of the same solution.

Also fed the Colombian Miracle clones 300 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Iguana Juice Grow @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2 mL/L, Kelp Me Kelp You @ 10 mL/4L, Wholly Mackerel @ 15 mL/4 L, Hygrozyme @ 2.5 mL/L. Topped the Colombian Miracle clones again and fed the Mother plants 3000 mL of the same soluton.

Buzzy12 · Oct 31, 2022

Fed the 10 gal plants 8000 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Iguana Juice Bloom @ 4 mL/L, Big Bud @ 2 mL/L, Nirvana @ 2 mL/L, Ancient Earth @ 2 mL/L, Sensizym Organic @ 2 mL/L, Big Mike's OG Tea @ 2 mL/L, Bud Candy @ 2 mL/L, Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 2.5 mL/L.

Also sprayed the Colombian Miracle clones and Mother plants with a solution of Grandma Enggy's F-1 @ 1 tsp/32 fl oz.

Buzzy12 · Nov 2, 2022

Week 7 Day 3, yesterday I gave the Colombian Miracle plants 3500 mL each of a 6.3 pH solution of Orca @ 3 mL/4 L, Bud Candy @ 2 mL/L, and Sensizym Organic @ 2 mL/L. Gave the 5 gal plants 5000 mL each of the same solution. I staked everything that needed to be staked today. The Colombian Miracle plants are producing some big frosty heavy flowers.

#7 Flower

#12 Flower

#4 Flower

#5 Flower

Yesterday I also gave the Colombian Miracle clones 300 mL each of a 6.2 pH solution of Orca @ 3 mL/4 L, Bud Candy @ 2 mL/L, and Hygrozyme @ 2.5 mL/L. Gave the Mother plants 3000 mL each of the same solution. Culled the Flintstones clone that wasn't growing, the other 3 are doing alright.

sportyridr · Nov 3, 2022

Buds by the handful...gotta love that

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