PH A Basic explanation

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Madmax

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I tossed it out 😃..is there anything on the subject you have read aqua that iron and cal precipiate out of solution when they are added after si ..see how i dont listen even when your right..lol..
 
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Aqua Man

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I tossed it out 😃..is there anything on the subject you have read aqua that iron and cal precipiate out of solution when they are added after si ..see how i dont listen lol even when your right..lol..
Just got off work... not sure how ya mixed em but will check back when I wake up.
 
edray2052

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So is the general takeaway here that if you're using a pH adjusted soil (I'm in ocean forest), and you're not using silica and you're water isn't too far from neutral (my tap runs around 7.1-7.2), then you're better off not using pH up or down? My first FFOF grow I didn't know anything about pH -- my second grow I've been pHing every watering/feed and my plants don't look nearly as good as when I wasn't worrying about it. Could be an infinite number of reasons for that I guess, but after reading this thread I'm inclined to box up my pH Up/Down.
 
XtreemLee

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To confirm my well water comes out at ph of 8 and an ec of .4. I’m using bubble buckets I flushed the media and plant root with sledgehammer/water mix. I then put the plants in plain water ph balanced to 6.0, and verified ec at .37 with no nutrients. I just want to watch my ph for a day or two before adding any nutes.
I have some cal/mag (fox farm) coming, I expect that to help moderate my ph. I definitely have been adding to much nutrients. Since my roots are in water what should my vegetative ec be? I’ve seen some that say never over 1.2, but am not sure.
 
HarryHood

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So is the general takeaway here that if you're using a pH adjusted soil (I'm in ocean forest), and you're not using silica and you're water isn't too far from neutral (my tap runs around 7.1-7.2), then you're better off not using pH up or down? My first FFOF grow I didn't know anything about pH -- my second grow I've been pHing every watering/feed and my plants don't look nearly as good as when I wasn't worrying about it. Could be an infinite number of reasons for that I guess, but after reading this thread I'm inclined to box up my pH Up/Down.
yeah, i think that's the case, but i'm a newb so take that fwiw?
 
Aqua Man

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So is the general takeaway here that if you're using a pH adjusted soil (I'm in ocean forest), and you're not using silica and you're water isn't too far from neutral (my tap runs around 7.1-7.2), then you're better off not using pH up or down? My first FFOF grow I didn't know anything about pH -- my second grow I've been pHing every watering/feed and my plants don't look nearly as good as when I wasn't worrying about it. Could be an infinite number of reasons for that I guess, but after reading this thread I'm inclined to box up my pH Up/Down.
Imo yes.
 
Aqua Man

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To confirm my well water comes out at ph of 8 and an ec of .4. I’m using bubble buckets I flushed the media and plant root with sledgehammer/water mix. I then put the plants in plain water ph balanced to 6.0, and verified ec at .37 with no nutrients. I just want to watch my ph for a day or two before adding any nutes.
I have some cal/mag (fox farm) coming, I expect that to help moderate my ph. I definitely have been adding to much nutrients. Since my roots are in water what should my vegetative ec be? I’ve seen some that say never over 1.2, but am not sure.
Every grow will be different... read the plants is the best way but typically 1.2-1.4 mid to late veg. May need a water only day in there but hard to say
 
Madmax

Madmax

This is what i seen a while back and the reason why im doing it like i am bar using cal mag where he mentions as i read somewhere si and cal mag dont go well together like that.i use cal mag at end when i do ..but i wont use them in same feed.
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KingHale

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Over the past week I’ve been running a test to figure out if there’s a reason to pH balance the water/nutrients i feed my plants.

I have 39 clones and a soil pH meter

half of the clones got pH balanced water and nutrients, the other half just got water and nutrients. Here are my findings:

The clones who received pH balanced water maintained a soil pH of right around 6.0
The clones who did not receive pH balanced water all had soils whose measurements maxed the needle of my pH meter, so their soil was at least 8.0.

All Of the plants look healthy. I don’t see any distinguishable difference between them.

As much as I’d love to skip the step of having to pH balance everything, I think for now I’m going to continue doing it. I just thought I’d share my findings.
 
Aqua Man

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Over the past week I’ve been running a test to figure out if there’s a reason to pH balance the water/nutrients i feed my plants.

I have 39 clones and a soil pH meter

half of the clones got pH balanced water and nutrients, the other half just got water and nutrients. Here are my findings:

The clones who received pH balanced water maintained a soil pH of right around 6.0
The clones who did not receive pH balanced water all had soils whose measurements maxed the needle of my pH meter, so their soil was at least 8.0.

All Of the plants look healthy. I don’t see any distinguishable difference between them.

As much as I’d love to skip the step of having to pH balance everything, I think for now I’m going to continue doing it. I just thought I’d share my findings.
Testing right after watering?
 
Aqua Man

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Over the past week I’ve been running a test to figure out if there’s a reason to pH balance the water/nutrients i feed my plants.

I have 39 clones and a soil pH meter

half of the clones got pH balanced water and nutrients, the other half just got water and nutrients. Here are my findings:

The clones who received pH balanced water maintained a soil pH of right around 6.0
The clones who did not receive pH balanced water all had soils whose measurements maxed the needle of my pH meter, so their soil was at least 8.0.

All Of the plants look healthy. I don’t see any distinguishable difference between them.

As much as I’d love to skip the step of having to pH balance everything, I think for now I’m going to continue doing it. I just thought I’d share my findings.
Kinda curious what water source and nutrients your using that would give you a ph of 8 after mixing.
 
Glassdub

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My run offs have been acid which I attribute to aciding down tap water to be "in range" but putting the root zone out of range, I won't make this mistake again unless the root zone goes high out of range.
 
HarryHood

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Over the past week I’ve been running a test to figure out if there’s a reason to pH balance the water/nutrients i feed my plants.

I have 39 clones and a soil pH meter

half of the clones got pH balanced water and nutrients, the other half just got water and nutrients. Here are my findings:

The clones who received pH balanced water maintained a soil pH of right around 6.0
The clones who did not receive pH balanced water all had soils whose measurements maxed the needle of my pH meter, so their soil was at least 8.0.

All Of the plants look healthy. I don’t see any distinguishable difference between them.

As much as I’d love to skip the step of having to pH balance everything, I think for now I’m going to continue doing it. I just thought I’d share my findings.
wow! that's interesting 🤔
 
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