The lime is in... Lol. I have no intention of adding more to this mix. I intend to increase the ratio of pro mix to lime going forward in transplants to come.. . Just need to deal with it appropriately. Its all educated guessing on my end. In the spirit of learning.. savant style! (Gemini)
I'll keep watering in around 6.0 then lol unless MIMedGrower's post tells me otherwise.
Thank you!
I have hard water in spades... Thanks, Ill give it a look today.Water cant not affect the ph of limed soil. Well maybe very hard water over time.
Here is another link from the pro mix learning center. Best info i have found is on premierhorticulture dot com.
Its for food and plant producers but i think they may have added cannabis now.
I have hard water in spades... Thanks, Ill give it a look today.
100% thisThis thread is a good example of every grow is different. While extra liming soil may help one grower to avoid calcium or mag deficiencies another may end up with high ph lockout.
Kind of like telling everyone to add cal mag really.
Too many variables. We need to know the relationahip of our own water medium and nutes.
Build the soil to match your nutrients and water... Then avoid nutrient buildup.What I'm taking from all of this so far;
-Less lime in future trials.
-Read more before pulling the trigger on future trials (Not a step I missed this time, believe me...)
-I might be in for big big touble...
-I might be able to pull it off yet... Lol
-My curiosity is my worst enemy in that room, (Kind of had that figured out)
-Input pH for the happy plants 6.0 (I'm leaning to 5.9)
-Adding more peat in the affected/problematic cups is likely the best immediate change I could make as a way to adjust the pH in the media down a little... ?
(I haven't read any of the posted links just yet, I will.)
I've been counting on a salt build up in the media over time to work against the lime in the soil... In my mind this is how I will get the balance I'm looking for here. Once I figure out the lime dose... Just so everyone knows what I'm thinking...
I'm getting good results everywhere except in the cups. I'm also considering holding off on the adjusted lime until they go into nursery pots from now on... An easier shift from rockwool to peat...This thread is a good example of every grow is different. While extra liming soil may help one grower to avoid calcium or mag deficiencies another may end up with high ph lockout.
Kind of like telling everyone to add cal mag really.
Too many variables. We need to know the relationahip of our own water medium and nutes.
I'm going to nail it.. eventually. LolBuild the soil to match your nutrients and water... Then avoid nutrient buildup.
What I'm taking from all of this so far;
-Less lime in future trials.
-Read more before pulling the trigger on future trials (Not a step I missed this time, believe me...)
-I might be in for big big touble...
-I might be able to pull it off yet... Lol
-My curiosity is my worst enemy in that room, (Kind of had that figured out)
-Input pH for the happy plants 6.0 (I'm leaning to 5.9)
-Adding more peat in the affected/problematic cups is likely the best immediate change I could make as a way to adjust the pH in the media down a little... ?
(I haven't read any of the posted links just yet, I will.)
I've been counting on a salt build up in the media over time to work against the lime in the soil... In my mind this is how I will get the balance I'm looking for here. Once I figure out the lime dose... Just so everyone knows what I'm thinking...
I'm getting good results everywhere except in the cups. I'm also considering holding off on the adjusted lime until they go into nursery pots from now on... An easier shift from rockwool to peat...Lol
Ok... Lol. The watering to runoff with mild nutrient solution I've got. I just made big big changes in the watering technique department... Its how Ive been keeping the pH in the cups down so far. Slightly under feeding has also been contributing. I'm just starting out on these green planet nutrients. Getting a feel for them carefully.No extra lime needed. And we leach (flush) with fresh water or mild nutrient solution to get rid of excess salts. Also watering to good runoff helps with this. And of course not over feeding. ;-)
When I water in initially to activate the lime its unadjusted de-chlorinated water, no nutrient. My only goal was to activate the lime. I introduce nutrient 24 hours before planting.P
Another tip. Pro mix suggests unadjusted tap water the first week to keep the ph up while the lime activates.
Sorry.But this was my break from trimming. :-(
When I water in initially to activate the lime its unadjusted de-chlorinated water, no nutrient. My only goal was to activate the lime. I introduce nutrient 24 hours before planting.
This in line with what I've been reading up to now. To me it tells me what I'm trying is possible.. how do I test CaCO3 content in a cost effective manner?Water cant not affect the ph of limed soil. Well maybe very hard water over time.
Here is another link from the pro mix learning center. Best info i have found is on premierhorticulture dot com.
Its for food and plant producers but i think they may have added cannabis now.
I flush the shit out of it once its in containers before adding nutrient for the initial planting. Is this not good/necessary? I had to increase feed rates yesterday on the Do-Si-Do I just transplanted. Seedlings too. They were hungry... Happy on all counts but hungry.Is it pro mix from a white professional bale? It has a 1.2 average starter nutrient charge included. You dont need to feed young transplants for a week or two.
And after the first week wet the ph should rise to near 6.2ph and remain there with good practices.
Oh so it does come out of the bail lower!? I never measured it fresh, I do the pre wet as recommended but that's allP
Another tip. Pro mix suggests unadjusted tap water the first week to keep the ph up while the lime activates.
***Also.What I'm taking from all of this so far;
-Less lime in future trials.
-Read more before pulling the trigger on future trials (Not a step I missed this time, believe me...)
-I might be in for big big touble...
-I might be able to pull it off yet... Lol
-My curiosity is my worst enemy in that room, (Kind of had that figured out)
-Input pH for the happy plants 6.0 (I'm leaning to 5.9)
-Adding more peat in the affected/problematic cups is likely the best immediate change I could make as a way to adjust the pH in the media down a little... ?
(I haven't read any of the posted links just yet, I will.)
I've been counting on a salt build up in the media over time to work against the lime in the soil... In my mind this is how I will get the balance I'm looking for here. Once I figure out the lime dose... Just so everyone knows what I'm thinking...
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