Plants drooping. Looking sad. Not over/under watering

Buttercup726 · Jun 29, 2021

Need some help figuring this one out. I know it’s not over or under watering. I’ve watered by hand for many years. I normally wait until the pot is light and water all the way through.

All my plants are drooping. I’ve been giving them half dosage of nutrients every few days once the medium gets dry. I’m kinda perplexed.

One gallon pots.
pro mix
5.8-6
Led light. Plants are 4 feet way. Light strength is at 40 percent

I’m not sure what is causing my plants to act this way. It’s been a about week since I noticed this and it is not correcting itself. My humidity was kinda high and just got that buttoned up.

The leaves feel lifeless and papery.

here are some pics

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

Don't bother PHing. How much water do you give them?

What are the temps and humidity?

Have to say it looks like possibly tenps and possibly watering.

Buttercup726 · Jun 29, 2021

Aqua Man said:
Don't bother PHing. How much water do you give them?

What are the temps and humidity?

Have to say it looks like possibly tenps and possibly watering.

15-20 percent run off.
77 degrees. 75 percent humidity.

appreciate the response. I don’t think it’s a watering issue. I normally keep my humidity a little lower but I don’t think that’s the reason. No bugs. And everyone one of my plants is showcasing the droopiness. The leaves do feel papery tho. I thought that was normally a sign of underwatering. But like I said I don’t think it’s a watering issue

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

Are you spraying them with anything?

It's 100% transpiration issue. Whether it's rootzone or leaves I'm not sure yet. Do you have air exchange? Can you describe your set up?

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

Lower humidity will be better like 50-60%

GNick55 · Jun 29, 2021

humidity 70?? holy lower it..
you check for pest?
time for a transplant by the looks of it.,

Buttercup726 · Jun 29, 2021

Aqua Man said:
Are you spraying them with anything?

It's 100% transpiration issue. Whether it's rootzone or leaves I'm not sure yet. Do you have air exchange? Can you describe your set up?

no problem. Completely sealed room. Currently In veg stage. No air exchange unless the ac kicks on. Not running co2 during this phase.

4 hurricane fans on. Under two gavita leds that are set at 40 percent. They are roughly 4 feet from the lights.

normally go nutrient nutrient then plain RO water. I’ve done multiple grows in this set up. But this a first for me

I can take a pic of the roots it that helps

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

Buttercup726 said:
no problem. Completely sealed room. Currently In veg stage. No air exchange unless the ac kicks on. Not running co2 during this phase.

4 hurricane fans on. Under two gavita leds that are set at 40 percent. They are roughly 4 feet from the lights.

normally go nutrient nutrient then plain RO water. I’ve done multiple grows in this set up. But this a first for me

I can take a pic of the roots it that helps

Don't feed plain RO.

That's your problem you have no co2 they cannot photosynthesize after they use it up.

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

Pump some co2 in there and watch.

Buttercup726 · Jun 29, 2021

GNick55 said:
humidity 70?? holy lower it..
you check for pest?
time for a transplant by the looks of it.,

I’ve always ran my humidity around 65-70 during veg. I just kicked on the dehumidifier. No pests on the leaves that I see. I’ve been scouring the medium for bugs. Nothing.

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

I am 99% sure your lack of co2 is the issue.

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

What type of ac is it? I don't think your AC brings in new air.

Buttercup726 · Jun 29, 2021

Aqua Man said:
What type of ac is it? I don't think your AC brings in new air.

You might be right. Just a standard three ton traditional ac unit with the handler inside the room.

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

Buttercup726 said:
You might be right. Just a standard three ton traditional ac unit with the handler inside the room.

Yeah... you have co2 available?

Buttercup726 · Jun 29, 2021

Aqua Man said:
Yeah... you have co2 available?

Yes. I’ll turn it on and I can see it that makes them bounce back

Aqua Man · Jun 29, 2021

Buttercup726 said:
Yes. I’ll turn it on and I can see it that makes them bounce back

Yeah I'm almost positive that the issue... may take em a few days to start recovering. Reduce the light intensity if ya can for a few days until you see them bounce back.

Buttercup726 · Jun 29, 2021

Aqua Man said:
Yeah I'm almost positive that the issue... may take em a few days to start recovering. Reduce the light intensity if ya can for a few days until you see them bounce back.

Will do. Appreciate the help

Buttercup726 · Jun 30, 2021

Just a reference

before raising the lights

and then after raising the light.

slight improvement

INDICAtive · Jul 13, 2021

Buttercup726 said:
Just a reference

before raising the lights

and then after raising the light.

slight improvement

Seems like a big improvement to me. Might be time for bigger pots too

HaveApuff · Nov 9, 2021

"I’ve been giving them half dosage of nutrients every few days...", plus the purple stems, gives me reason to believe you are over chronically watering your plants. I just moved my plants in the 3rd week of veg into 3 gallon pots from 1 gallon pots, and my plants are really full, and even in the 3rd week in 1 gallon pots I was only watering once every 5th or 6th day. Combined with your high humidity your soil is never really ever able to dry out and I believe this is part of your problem. Just curious, what is every few days exactly?....and now I see this is an older post...

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