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ive got this afghan kush auto which was doing ok , then we had a cold spell (outside) for 4 weeks, then it turned warm , with some days up in the 70s. couple of weeks ago it foxtailed and started producing more white hairs which was probably its last push at budding up.. today i saw it wa starting to draw on the nitrogen in some leaves then i noticed a nanner near the base of the plant which has spilled some pollen. my question is will this fertilize just that branch or the whole plant? will the plant now put all energy into seeds or bud or both and would you snip off the offending area. I wouldnt mind Some seeds but i dont want the whole plant to stop now .
 

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You never know with nanners, sometimes you get many seeds, sometimes just a few locally around the nanners, sometimes the nanners are sterile and you get no seeds. Also depends on how far along the budding process is when the nanners dump.
 
I’m taking the under! Just a few seeds in the vicinity of the banana! Although I don’t have any idea, why! Lol! Get your zircon encrusted tweezers out! And good luck!😃🍻
 
I’m taking the under! Just a few seeds in the vicinity of the banana! Although I don’t have any idea, why! Lol! Get your zircon encrusted tweezers out! And good luck!😃🍻
Oh yea this too
but there is always a pretty good chance if your sporting some nanners
You better be searching all over them plants low mid canopy and high canopy for any pollen sacks that may be on their way to opening if they haven’t already as above as so below I hope he’s dodging the bullet though
 
Sometimes nanners can be sterile, best of luck with the harvest.
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I really did answer this like he had pollen sacs or something.
I hope homie is good.
Suo dream!
 
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soz dudes, i am on a different time zone... i only found one nanner at the bottom of the plant but it had definately spilled some seeds. the plant ,afghan kush auto has start throwing out hundreds of new white hairs (btw this plant has been growing since april and stopped during 4 weeks of cold weather) , do plants throw out new white hairs during the last 4 weeks of budding? its covered in them , more lower down. its smells lovely though
 

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You never know with nanners, sometimes you get many seeds, sometimes just a few locally around the nanners, sometimes the nanners are sterile and you get no seeds. Also depends on how far along the budding process is when the nanners dump.
i dont need to worry do i ? because the plant will still finish i just dont want the plant to suddenly divert all energy to seed production, but that wouldnt be that bad , i could put them on ebay for £10 each....8 ....6..ok £3...£1.50
 
Cannabis pollen even in miniscule amounts, travels incredibly vasts distances.
Most likely the whole plant.
This is an incredibly widespread bit of not "misinformation" but misleading information. Cannabis, due to the abnormal amount of genetic stewardship by humans and the genetic potential of the plant in the first place (for example, name ANY other plant with half the secondary metabolites and I guarantee it is a medicinal plant of the highest order of cash crops...), has a large spread for what pollen comes out looking like and subsequently behaves like. You can also still get stupid dank dripping trichomes on dense nugs in pollinated flower. Thats gonna be your sauce, not the seeding, that dictates that.

The simple truth is that cannabis pollen is as varied as the plants themselves. I am a bit of a hobbyist in the palynological space, and I maintain a database of pollen sample metrics. This all started over a cannabis start up asking me to design a chemical surface which would unlock a qualitative indicator when exposed to cannabis pollen (like a color change), a few dozen of us couldn't do it without genetic testing in real time. The MVP ended up being an open sourced imaging model, trained in house mostly on the incredible variety of OTHER things at this exact scale that would be false positives (mold, dust, yeast, other non cannabis pollen, etc.). The core of the issue is two fold... all pollen's properties are essentially driven by either genetics firstly or the current moisture content of the pollen second. Genetically you get a huge range of sizes for cannabis pollen. Some strains have pollen that will not disperse more than a few inches from the nana, and if anywhere they'll fall to the ground like an anvil. Some pollen is naturally more dry, and smaller, and will be wind dispersed. If you logically think of the driver for that, you get the drive of naturalized cannabis to reproduce...so in theory, we should be seeing less wind-dispersed pollen on average.

until real science is done genetically, I can provide anecdotes like: by the time your average pollen is dry enough to be a true airborne risk, viability is near the floor....or that a simple misting of your plant would be enough to stop any further pollination. And IME, the closer to landraces you are the more airborne the pollen is...

Just to circle back to the original post, about "vast distance". I used to parrot that a lot until I got into chucking and started working with pollen regularly. Really though, if you sit down and think about it you realize it is one of those 'sounds right' things that makes no logical sense. Given the sheer magnitude of hemp farming at giga-scale in the US, Canada, many European countries, and so on....if this were true about pollen, we'd all be forced underground into hermetically sealed rooms for sensi....and that just is not the truth. In fact, I'll work with pollen in a perpetual flow with all three flowering tents at premium pollen receiving time, with the tents open if I feel like it, and have never once had a single pollination accident just by a basic understanding of cannabis pollen

At the end of the day, some of the realest and dankest cultivators out there with decades doing this/families with centuries completely exclusively growing cannabis, many...and I mean many...of these folks think it is perfectly natural for her to throw a naner late. A good rule of thumb is, if she is throwing them after the window to self pollinate, that is natural. If she has the chance of pollinating herself for real, that is likely stress/doodoo genetics/both.
 
i dont need to worry do i ? because the plant will still finish i just dont want the plant to suddenly divert all energy to seed production, but that wouldnt be that bad , i could put them on ebay for £10 each....8 ....6..ok £3...£1.50

It's not so much you don't need to worry, as it is there's nothing you can really do about it, already happened. You'll probably get a few seeds, no big deal, it doesn't ruin the weed. Apparently you must be a youngster, because anyone who lived in the 70's knows about seeded weed. It was all you could get. Mexican ragweed, Panama Red, Acapulco Gold, Columbian, were all great strains and were all very seeded!
 
This is an incredibly widespread bit of not "misinformation" but misleading information. Cannabis, due to the abnormal amount of genetic stewardship by humans and the genetic potential of the plant in the first place (for example, name ANY other plant with half the secondary metabolites and I guarantee it is a medicinal plant of the highest order of cash crops...), has a large spread for what pollen comes out looking like and subsequently behaves like. You can also still get stupid dank dripping trichomes on dense nugs in pollinated flower. Thats gonna be your sauce, not the seeding, that dictates that.

The simple truth is that cannabis pollen is as varied as the plants themselves. I am a bit of a hobbyist in the palynological space, and I maintain a database of pollen sample metrics. This all started over a cannabis start up asking me to design a chemical surface which would unlock a qualitative indicator when exposed to cannabis pollen (like a color change), a few dozen of us couldn't do it without genetic testing in real time. The MVP ended up being an open sourced imaging model, trained in house mostly on the incredible variety of OTHER things at this exact scale that would be false positives (mold, dust, yeast, other non cannabis pollen, etc.). The core of the issue is two fold... all pollen's properties are essentially driven by either genetics firstly or the current moisture content of the pollen second. Genetically you get a huge range of sizes for cannabis pollen. Some strains have pollen that will not disperse more than a few inches from the nana, and if anywhere they'll fall to the ground like an anvil. Some pollen is naturally more dry, and smaller, and will be wind dispersed. If you logically think of the driver for that, you get the drive of naturalized cannabis to reproduce...so in theory, we should be seeing less wind-dispersed pollen on average.

until real science is done genetically, I can provide anecdotes like: by the time your average pollen is dry enough to be a true airborne risk, viability is near the floor....or that a simple misting of your plant would be enough to stop any further pollination. And IME, the closer to landraces you are the more airborne the pollen is...

Just to circle back to the original post, about "vast distance". I used to parrot that a lot until I got into chucking and started working with pollen regularly. Really though, if you sit down and think about it you realize it is one of those 'sounds right' things that makes no logical sense. Given the sheer magnitude of hemp farming at giga-scale in the US, Canada, many European countries, and so on....if this were true about pollen, we'd all be forced underground into hermetically sealed rooms for sensi....and that just is not the truth. In fact, I'll work with pollen in a perpetual flow with all three flowering tents at premium pollen receiving time, with the tents open if I feel like it, and have never once had a single pollination accident just by a basic understanding of cannabis pollen

At the end of the day, some of the realest and dankest cultivators out there with decades doing this/families with centuries completely exclusively growing cannabis, many...and I mean many...of these folks think it is perfectly natural for her to throw a naner late. A good rule of thumb is, if she is throwing them after the window to self pollinate, that is natural. If she has the chance of pollinating herself for real, that is likely stress/doodoo genetics/both.
well thats nice to know , i would imagine it was bought on by heat stress , we had 5 v hot days , up near 30 degrees , oh and its in a fabric pot thats too small . ive ended up with my biggest plant in the smallest pot and my smallest in a large one.
 
I don’t know what causes it! From what I’ve seen, Fox tailing is a pretty rare bird outdoors! Foxtail and herming are both more of an indoor thing, in my opinion!
 
I agree with the fox tailing being rare outside. It is getting rougher to tell with the newer breeding pushing for surface area over density for the washers, we are def seeing some genetic foxtailing being selected for...

Hormone imbalance can also be causing this but at some point you're just back to looking at light spectrum and photoperiod timing ya know. I'd imagine the source for both would be the combination of genetics (namely the autoflowering portion) and environmental stress. IME one of the easiest ways to get any strain to foxtail for washing is to crank your intensity and exploit LEDs to deliver a whopper of a PAR value at a silly low leaf temp or PGRs
 
I don’t know what causes it! From what I’ve seen, Fox tailing is a pretty rare bird outdoors! Foxtail and herming are both more of an indoor thing, in my opinion!
it has been growing since april and its been a bit abused, its an auto, and it had 2 weeks of summer weather , then 4 weeks of quite cold at nights (although it was under cover) then more summer weather ,and ive noticed its started throwing out huge amount of white hairs, i thought it would be finishing now but it looks like its got another 4 weeks at least . its also in a small pot for its size , i wanted to keep this one smaller and grow my other one large but it didnt work out like that. btw , the other one is a gorilla glue and just for an experiment i chopped all the fan leaves off as soon as it flowered and its stacking the buds on now
 

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it has been growing since april and its been a bit abused, its an auto, and it had 2 weeks of summer weather , then 4 weeks of quite cold at nights (although it was under cover) then more summer weather ,and ive noticed its started throwing out huge amount of white hairs, i thought it would be finishing now but it looks like its got another 4 weeks at least . its also in a small pot for its size , i wanted to keep this one smaller and grow my other one large but it didnt work out like that. btw , the other one is a gorilla glue and just for an experiment i chopped all the fan leaves off as soon as it flowered and its stacking the buds on now
It seems like when you start them early under natural light it can kind of screw them up! All you can do is go along for the ride. See what happens!
 
This is an incredibly widespread bit of not "misinformation" but misleading information. Cannabis, due to the abnormal amount of genetic stewardship by humans and the genetic potential of the plant in the first place (for example, name ANY other plant with half the secondary metabolites and I guarantee it is a medicinal plant of the highest order of cash crops...), has a large spread for what pollen comes out looking like and subsequently behaves like. You can also still get stupid dank dripping trichomes on dense nugs in pollinated flower. Thats gonna be your sauce, not the seeding, that dictates that.

The simple truth is that cannabis pollen is as varied as the plants themselves. I am a bit of a hobbyist in the palynological space, and I maintain a database of pollen sample metrics. This all started over a cannabis start up asking me to design a chemical surface which would unlock a qualitative indicator when exposed to cannabis pollen (like a color change), a few dozen of us couldn't do it without genetic testing in real time. The MVP ended up being an open sourced imaging model, trained in house mostly on the incredible variety of OTHER things at this exact scale that would be false positives (mold, dust, yeast, other non cannabis pollen, etc.). The core of the issue is two fold... all pollen's properties are essentially driven by either genetics firstly or the current moisture content of the pollen second. Genetically you get a huge range of sizes for cannabis pollen. Some strains have pollen that will not disperse more than a few inches from the nana, and if anywhere they'll fall to the ground like an anvil. Some pollen is naturally more dry, and smaller, and will be wind dispersed. If you logically think of the driver for that, you get the drive of naturalized cannabis to reproduce...so in theory, we should be seeing less wind-dispersed pollen on average.

until real science is done genetically, I can provide anecdotes like: by the time your average pollen is dry enough to be a true airborne risk, viability is near the floor....or that a simple misting of your plant would be enough to stop any further pollination. And IME, the closer to landraces you are the more airborne the pollen is...

Just to circle back to the original post, about "vast distance". I used to parrot that a lot until I got into chucking and started working with pollen regularly. Really though, if you sit down and think about it you realize it is one of those 'sounds right' things that makes no logical sense. Given the sheer magnitude of hemp farming at giga-scale in the US, Canada, many European countries, and so on....if this were true about pollen, we'd all be forced underground into hermetically sealed rooms for sensi....and that just is not the truth. In fact, I'll work with pollen in a perpetual flow with all three flowering tents at premium pollen receiving time, with the tents open if I feel like it, and have never once had a single pollination accident just by a basic understanding of cannabis pollen

At the end of the day, some of the realest and dankest cultivators out there with decades doing this/families with centuries completely exclusively growing cannabis, many...and I mean many...of these folks think it is perfectly natural for her to throw a naner late. A good rule of thumb is, if she is throwing them after the window to self pollinate, that is natural. If she has the chance of pollinating herself for real, that is likely stress/doodoo genetics/both.
English i know you speak this langue so everyone dont get it but some of it is just really hard to retain if you been on vacation from it
 
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