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Could you throw a layer of small gravel on top and take away the humid top layer?
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I'm gonna go pick up some DE this morning, and see how that works. Also going to apply some tanglefoot. Combined with spraying, hopefully it helps.
Haha yeah the bigger pots are 100 gal and the smaller is a 45.
 
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The bigger the roots...and you know the rest, lol. Looks good, man.
 
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Some of the ladies yesterday. Most are pretty recent transplants. The last photo is the plant that is struggling the most, but still putting out healthy new growth.
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The bigger the roots...and you know the rest, lol. Looks good, man.
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Sparky I like ur avatar photo, I have always wanted to try those genetics but have not had any luck
 
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Sparky I like ur avatar photo, I have always wanted to try those genetics but have not had any luck
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Thanks man. They're fun as hell to grow. Just need full sun all day and then thinning so they can get big. Soil doesn't matter. They bloom in spring as the days get longer, so way different than cannabis. They make an excellent tea or can be smoked. Grow your own morphine, lol.
 
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Hey, in my many years of growing, i never found a good way to battle thrips, nothing seems to really kill the, but on the other hand, part from the marks they leave on the leaves, and the fact that i hate seeing them, they don't seem to cause that much damage. whenever i had an infestation ( mites or aphids) i did the 3 time spray cycle, that is i sprayed every 3 days, 3 times, and that seem to help, especially when using azatrol or azamax, rather than neem oil. Never sprayed daily, as always recommended to spray hydrated plants, and growing in Coir based, its good to let the top inch get bone dry. If your plants are rootbound, transplant them - stressed plants are much more attractive to pests, and are less capable of defending themselves.
I dont like soil, prefer a more soil less medium, with feed or added organic matter. Also, prefer guano & worm castings to manures. not sure what soil you got and what/ why you want to add amendments to it, also what amendments?
i think that the plant in the pics looks good. the leaf claw (where the tip of the leaf curls down) is a sign of overferlizing, so go eas
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So about the thrips!!! I actually was just talking to someone about this. Use a product called mosquito dunk. Half a tab in 5gall of hot water and let it sit overnight. Add this to 55gal res after nutrients but before ph. Same night spray well (EVERYTHING stems plants floor walls everything) with bugbgone (or other pyrethrum spray) or neem oil.3 sprays 3 days apart. They WILL tap out.
 
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So about the thrips!!! I actually was just talking to someone about this. Use a product called mosquito dunk. Half a tab in 5gall of hot water and let it sit overnight. Add this to 55gal res after nutrients but before ph. Same night spray well (EVERYTHING stems plants floor walls everything) with bugbgone (or other pyrethrum spray) or neem oil.3 sprays 3 days apart. They WILL tap out.
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Thanks man!
Somebody else highly recommended a pyrinthrin spray. I was looking at a product that is kind of a hybrid of pyrithrins and azamax. I forget the name now, but it's my next step if my current method doesn't put them in check. I don't want to change more than one variable at a time because then it's harder to attribute the improvement or lack of to one specific thing.
Last night I upped my plant therapy application(added one part 99% iso) after de-foliating most of the bug damaged leaves. Then I re-applied dry diatomaceous earth to the top soil and around the base of the plants. I don't want to be overly optimistic, but I see a lot less activity in my soil after not watering for 3 days instead of giving a little bit every day combined with covering my soil with the DE yesterday. Since I manually remove as many thrips throughout the day as I can find, I should be able to figure out if they are still making it up the plant stem. I'm not going to apply the tangle foot today and see how it goes but I don't see how anything can get past that stuff.
 
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Yeah that should help. I like the mosquito dunks because you use it as a soil drench to kill the larva before they can get a chance to escape. The sprays being helpful for one that have already emerged. How big is your grow area? Cold pressed neem is organic and not only does it kill pests and prevent pm it only targets plant eating bugs (not the good ones) your plants will also look healthier... big win.
 
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Yeah that should help. I like the mosquito dunks because you use it as a soil drench to kill the larva before they can get a chance to escape. The sprays being helpful for one that have already emerged. How big is your grow area? Cold pressed neem is organic and not only does it kill pests and prevent pm it only targets plant eating bugs (not the good ones) your plants will also look healthier... big win.
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I love neem oil, I alternate between the 2 products. I will check out the mosquito dunks, I need a kill on contact product in the arsenal. Greenhouse is 860 sqft
 
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Hello everyone,
I'm new here, searching for a good online resource for help from experienced farmers/gardeners. In the last 6 years, I've gone from not being able to grow(living situation), to being able to grow in a nice greenhouse.
A little background-Our first year was basically nothing, 2nd was clones only in mainly root 707 chicken compost, rock dust, and cascade mineral soil booster in 45 gal. That was a good year.
The following year was regular seeds only, and I sifted my own compost and added dry amendments in 6 100 gallons(lots of work). I thought I was adding good drainage with 30% 5/16" lava rock. Wrong, the soil was so dense I could not flush it without killing the plants. Total full term harvest was less than 8 oz :'(. I was pretty depressed, what a far cry from walking in my mini forest the year prior.
Really trying to set myself up for success this year since I don't think my herb reserves will stretch another year.
I've got fem seedlings at about 6-7 weeks currently in 2-5 gallon pots. I bought all bagged soil this year and this is what I have to mix currently: hp promix mychorizae(6x), black gold with fertilizer(12x 1.5 cubic), peletized chicken poop, glacial rock dust, fish bone meal, kelzyne, chicken compost, and a soil booster(~50% biochar I believe).
I learned how important light soil is last year, and have already noticed the pelitized chicken poop making things heavier and siltier than seems ideal in the smaller pots.
I need some guidance on a good balance of high porosity soil to amendments. Greenhouse has a concrete pad so I'm somewhat limited in options.
I'm currently spraying neem everyday to deal with some early bugs(thrips) and innoculating with nematodes in case I have any mites. Should I wait until I don't see any more bugs before making final selection and transplanting? Or am I wasting time letting the soil sit in bags?
Please don't hold back on criticism or advice. I can take it and appreciate any help. Thank you.
Photo is one of my probable picks, stoopid fruits by HSC. Notice the damage on leaves that I attribute to thrips or nitrogen burn from going from bare soil to rich soil 2 weeks ago.
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When it comes to thrips outside i would use spinosad....its less prone to build up because intense light breaks it down from what ive read.

Two applications and my friend k ocked them down indoors. Just dont use it a few weeks before flower i believe. If im wrong someone will correct me....lol
 
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I love neem oil, I alternate between the 2 products. I will check out the mosquito dunks, I need a kill on contact product in the arsenal. Greenhouse is 860 sqft
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Spinosad! Kills'em
 
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Thanks man. They're fun as hell to grow. Just need full sun all day and then thinning so they can get big. Soil doesn't matter. They bloom in spring as the days get longer, so way different than cannabis. They make an excellent tea or can be smoked. Grow your own morphine, lol.
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Do u kno where I can get? I have tried a couple different sources and they ended up being the “boring” ones. . Any help would be appreciated I have late onset scoliosis from 9 years of playing football as an offensive lineman and a weight lifter.
 
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Do u kno where I can get? I have tried a couple different sources and they ended up being the “boring” ones. . Any help would be appreciated I have late onset scoliosis from 9 years of playing football as an offensive lineman and a weight lifter.
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Floridapoppy.com. I got the seeds in my avatar pic from Amazon. But fl poppy has the legit cultivars. Wherever you get them, just make sure they're "unwashed" or "organic" papaver somniferum seeds. Depending on where you're located, you'll want to sow them in a prepared bed in late fall or early spring. They hate the heat and are a cool weather plant, so plan accordingly. The seedlings are extremely tiny, so they clump together. But you need to thin them to about 12" between plants so they can get really big. Attached is one from last year with all the goodies oozing out, lol.
 
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When it comes to thrips outside i would use spinosad....its less prone to build up because intense light breaks it down from what ive read.

Two applications and my friend k ocked them down indoors. Just dont use it a few weeks before flower i believe. If im wrong someone will correct me....lol
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I do have a bottle of captain jacks. I've only ever foliar sprayed, are you talking soil drench?
 
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I do have a bottle of captain jacks. I've only ever foliar sprayed, are you talking soil drench?
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Never soil drench with spinosad....this bacteria lives where theres lil to no light i believe and you dont want thos bacteria outside of tbeir natural habitat. That and ive heard spinosad products contain a chem that isnt good....i couldnt verify that chem info anywhere else except where i read it. I believe it was another forum

So just foliar spray
 
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Spinosad! Kills'em
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Never soil drench with spinosad....this bacteria lives where theres lil to no light
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I seem to be able to control the ones on the foliar with plant therapy and neem with horticulture soap ok, but I just noticed them in the soil so not sure if that was the original source or not but there were ALOT yesterday and I'm starting to worry they're going to attack my roots.
The diatamaceous earth did an amazing job at keeping them off the plants today, I didn't see a single one.
Unfortunately, I had to water and now need to wait until the top of the soil dries before re-applying. Not sure how much silica I can wash into my soil before I start seeing an adverse effect, but I don't want to find out. I also don't know if preventing them from reaching the main plant with the DE drives them to eat roots instead.

I've never have an infestation this early into the season and pretty much spend all my time obsessing about my garden. I'd like to keep it organic, but I can't have another failed year so I'm almost at the point where I'm willing to try some chem methods :(
 
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520Gthumb said:
Do u kno where I can get? I have tried a couple different sources and they ended up being the “boring” ones. . Any help would be appreciated I have late onset scoliosis from 9 years of playing football as an offensive lineman and a weight lifter.
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More pics below. They love any kind of soil. But if you have hard clay, I recommend amending with sand. I learned a lot by just getting my hands dirty. As soon as they bloom, do not water them anymore - excess H2O dilutes the alkaloids.
 

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I'm currently spraying neem everyday to deal with some early bugs(thrips) and innoculating with nematodes in case I have any mites. Should I wait until I don't see any more bugs before making final selection and transplanting?
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet that I've seen is thrips are not strong flyers. When I turn the fan up they head for land. Then I squish the little darlings.

I'm currently fighting the little buggers and holding my own (but the tent is only a 4x4).
 
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet that I've seen is thrips are not strong flyers. When I turn the fan up they head for land. Then I squish the little darlings.

I'm currently fighting the little buggers and holding my own (but the tent is only a 4x4).
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Let me know how it goes! I also use fans to keep air on the plants when the movers aren't on. Keep an eye out for them in media, since their numbers can get pretty crazy
 
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More pics below. They love any kind of soil. But if you have hard clay, I recommend amending with sand. I learned a lot by just getting my hands dirty. As soon as they bloom, do not water them anymore - excess H2O dilutes the alkaloids.
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Here's some from this year. Notice the additional "nodding heads" to the right of this flower. They bloomed a few days later. Gorgeous plants.
 

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Let me know how it goes! I also use fans to keep air on the plants when the movers aren't on. Keep an eye out for them in media, since their numbers can get pretty crazy
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Today I woke up to a whole bunch of little white dots all over the tent. My solarium gets swarm flies, wasps, lady bug infestations so I'm used to flying pests. A non chemical favorite is my old vacuum cleaner. It took about ten minutes with the odd pinched volunteer sitting on the leaves but the tent is back to clean for now. I managed to beat up the odd leaf but that's no biggy. Holding the vacuum intake under the light gets a lot of volunteers.

It's my first time fighting these little darlings so I'll see how it's going tomorrow.


 
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