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Welp I'm gonna keep it short and sweet... Started out the grow n it took trying to pop over 30 bag seed to get 4 to grow ...

When they popped I had 3 different pheno's come out .
One was really bushy short squat...
One just want to run and grow and just wouldn't be stoped unless something went slightly off and it always impacted the plant greatly..
One came out, and always just grew beautifully... Never had any problems... Nice big giant fat leaves rich color... But it was kinda where the two different sides had finally met in the middle and that's what was supposed to have come out..... Or somethin...
This is day four...
The beautiful one started sprouting nuts before I even switched lighting... Was hoping it was just preflower jitters.. but it just kept it up .. 4 days in was pretty fast to make the decision but I also had 3 other plants in the tent to worry about.. and any accidental pollenation from an already bag seed collection...
Didn't want to further shitty selection any further.,
Now I have 3 left

The bush, and the 2 that mostly favored each other was the one that just didn't want to stop growing upwards.... Not as in full and beautiful... The bush ( day four lots of the calyxes have kinda flattened out... No bud structure yet, not much to speak of... Color of the growth in the tops has changed but no definitive sexing type structuring yet....

My other two plants however have been really going to work and at first because of the little hair tip sticking out past these new developments I thought hopefully not but we'll see... ( The bush is still showing nothing, mind you)... But now they are starting to look to me as clusters of those evil fkers starting to form...

I need to know how many days I should chance it... Not trying to save a herm... It's bag seed I just want a fem and get on with it... If you guys think these are males/ Hermies... let me know cuz the lost time might suck but not having any bud at all unless it has a million seeds is severely worse... Plus if this gets screwed up there's no cloning ground to stand on to preserve the fem so hopefully later I can cross something into my buddies crappy azz bag weed .

Right now I got some northern lights I could start with.. but I also have like 4 or 5 others as well and a few crosses..

So... Let me know what you think about it... I already kinda got my own ideas... But if this is a all bad situation they gotta go regardless.
 
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MagicNative1

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Male not hermi just maleπŸ‘
A buddy of mine had given me a shwag bag around Halloween I used to make butter and then brownies... But the stuff was like nasty sick 🀒... Had probably about 1600 seeds in less than a half pound... I took out about 300 and went to popping...

So far there's been a really bush like squat pheno I really like.... But she grows in monsterously thick.. she grew in so thick one of my first post back after yrs of not growing was about her... She was throwing crazy leaf patterns... She started out growing so packed and thick she ended pretty much topping herself at a point because of how it was spitting out... And she went into a 2 branch structure from there on... I think I have about 5 clones of her...

The first male I noticed was a really big broad leaf .. GrowIt perfect.. he grabbed to the soil and worked with the mycorrhizae and was able to hold soil conditions longer.. I think sometimes I might have to water a whole day n a half after the others because he was still kickin... Beautiful plant ☘️... Lol but I can't run any males right now so since he popped his nuts first he was goooone...

Now these 2....

They've both been pretty similar the whole time except when I went to do their 2nd topping..
I go with a controversial mainline structure... So it instead of just your first 2 shoots like with a reg mainline... You'd add that second node above it just to add symmetry and start off squared up from the get... But after that where I topped again to create the 8 cola structure... One went limp and decided I wanted to be a bush all the sudden and the other was still racing up up up like it's been doing since I popped him...
It is frustrating but it's been fun...

Probably take the 3 male pots after pulling them and go get a bunch of worms to eat up the roots as they die and try starting up a Lil worm bin... Add the food and additives as I expand past those three : 3 gallon pots.... Nothing professional quality jus a diy for fun and personal.. maybe by and ice chest put those pot plugs in it and top it off with whatever a good bin calls for... N worms for castings later
 
MagicNative1

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If your not gunna breed with em I’d get the males outta there into the trash asapπŸ‘
Yeah no definitive not wanting to let bag weed breed itself with bag weed.. I got these 4 others for now and 3 on the way but I'm not gonna try breeding anything until I run that orange velvet x Cinderella 99 cross and I'm gonna do the colloidal silver thing on the 3 pack from the left .. it's Bruce Banner x Kali Mist...

When I pollinate the 🍊x99 I'll accidentally throw in one of my 5 clones of Mrs bush and what I get is what I get for my Reggie line 🀣... Personal only... No requests, no requests...
 
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Justlovetogrow

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Yeah no definitive not wanting to let bag weed breed itself with bag weed.. I got these 4 others for now and 3 on the way but I'm not gonna try breeding anything until I run that orange velvet x Cinderella 99 cross and I'm gonna do the colloidal silver thing on the 3 pack from the left .. it's Bruce Banner x Kali Mist...

When I pollinate the 🍊x99 I'll accidentally throw in one of my 5 clones of Mrs bush and what I get is what I get for my Reggie line 🀣... Personal only... No requests, no requests...
if you’ve got good old school strains like Og kush and northern lights y are u growing schwag bag seed?
 
MagicNative1

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It's what I had to start out with first.. really didn't order these until veg was almost over with the others... And I actually ran the whole 9+/- weeks on those too instead of just runnin with it after around 4 or 5 n throwing them into veg like alot of indoors people do for height and to squeeze in that 3rd run a yr..... Sux, LoL

But like I said I really like those squat and unruly bushy type plants as well, n that's what this Reggie girls turned into.. the OG I got looks to be a better choice comparing structure to keep things an even pair..... Idk lol that's all dream work right now....

Have to ditch a combined 7 total clones of the boys, still have 5 clones of her so, πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ... Maybe one of those that's in that seven is from her but I doubt it... Her 5 are all newer and I haven't even really done anything with them... I'd say they're in a diy clonner I made up but it's more like just a bubble with a fitted dome... Keeps humidity perfect for them... But never got around to a mat yet so water temperature slows root development....

At the same time I can just change the water out on that bubbler over a months time and whenever Im ready I can soak a plug dip it in rooting gel and within days to a week from whenever I stared you can tell the roots have started making their way out into their new home...
If I can get a transplant in less than 2.5 weeks or so I might not even take on any wilting, yellowing, or loss of original growth...

But at least I've found the female keeper version of this pheno of whatever strain tha bag weed was...
Still over 300 more of them to go... πŸ€£πŸ€“πŸ€£
I'm hoping I find a fem of both those others
That grower that just kept on at 110 percent if cleaned up would probably be a killer out door pheno
And then the perfect little glamour girl plant , that ended up being a boy, if I can find it's sexual opposite somewhere in there might be worth playing with for sure too...
Idk we will see ..
For now though I'm going to work on clone dispatch and get the others moving so I can free up a tent and start one of these REAL strains 😎πŸͺ΄πŸ˜œ
 
Bullybeans420

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Welp I'm gonna keep it short and sweet... Started out the grow n it took trying to pop over 30 bag seed to get 4 to grow ...

When they popped I had 3 different pheno's come out .
One was really bushy short squat...
One just want to run and grow and just wouldn't be stoped unless something went slightly off and it always impacted the plant greatly..
One came out, and always just grew beautifully... Never had any problems... Nice big giant fat leaves rich color... But it was kinda where the two different sides had finally met in the middle and that's what was supposed to have come out..... Or somethin...
This is day four...
The beautiful one started sprouting nuts before I even switched lighting... Was hoping it was just preflower jitters.. but it just kept it up .. 4 days in was pretty fast to make the decision but I also had 3 other plants in the tent to worry about.. and any accidental pollenation from an already bag seed collection...
Didn't want to further shitty selection any further.,
Now I have 3 left

The bush, and the 2 that mostly favored each other was the one that just didn't want to stop growing upwards.... Not as in full and beautiful... The bush ( day four lots of the calyxes have kinda flattened out... No bud structure yet, not much to speak of... Color of the growth in the tops has changed but no definitive sexing type structuring yet....

My other two plants however have been really going to work and at first because of the little hair tip sticking out past these new developments I thought hopefully not but we'll see... ( The bush is still showing nothing, mind you)... But now they are starting to look to me as clusters of those evil fkers starting to form...

I need to know how many days I should chance it... Not trying to save a herm... It's bag seed I just want a fem and get on with it... If you guys think these are males/ Hermies... let me know cuz the lost time might suck but not having any bud at all unless it has a million seeds is severely worse... Plus if this gets screwed up there's no cloning ground to stand on to preserve the fem so hopefully later I can cross something into my buddies crappy azz bag weed .

Right now I got some northern lights I could start with.. but I also have like 4 or 5 others as well and a few crosses..

So... Let me know what you think about it... I already kinda got my own ideas... But if this is a all bad situation they gotta go regardless.
Some males good be gems most ppl just throw away but you could be throwing away your other half of a golden ticket im a breeder so i can see the use for both .fems are nice but not good breeders seed banks use them to keep you from using there genomes they think are special
 
MagicNative1

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Some males good be gems most ppl just throw away but you could be throwing away your other half of a golden ticket im a breeder so i can see the use for both .fems are nice but not good breeders seed banks use them to keep you from using there genomes they think are special
Yeah well I was hoping to make a good run in a last ditch effort where I was just living.. I think out of the 4 I started with 2 for sure started showing male and I think I prematurely cut the only female I had down thinking it was male... Then the very last one I was letting grow out within another week and a half had balls every where. ..
It sucked I had probably another 10 clones of these plants running and everything was pretty cool...
It was just bag seed.
But I learned there's 3 different types of growing differences in pheno all in that on bath of 4...
Well 2 for sure... But the last one when I started training grew completely different then the other if I remember right..
I have like 200-300 seeds left of that and if I could find the one I liked best out of those 4 in a female package it'd make that whole search pretty worth it... She was a pretty beautiful girl πŸ˜‰
 
DoobieBro462

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A buddy of mine had given me a shwag bag around Halloween I used to make butter and then brownies... But the stuff was like nasty sick 🀒... Had probably about 1600 seeds in less than a half pound... I took out about 300 and went to popping...

So far there's been a really bush like squat pheno I really like.... But she grows in monsterously thick.. she grew in so thick one of my first post back after yrs of not growing was about her... She was throwing crazy leaf patterns... She started out growing so packed and thick she ended pretty much topping herself at a point because of how it was spitting out... And she went into a 2 branch structure from there on... I think I have about 5 clones of her...

The first male I noticed was a really big broad leaf .. GrowIt perfect.. he grabbed to the soil and worked with the mycorrhizae and was able to hold soil conditions longer.. I think sometimes I might have to water a whole day n a half after the others because he was still kickin... Beautiful plant ☘️... Lol but I can't run any males right now so since he popped his nuts first he was goooone...

Now these 2....

They've both been pretty similar the whole time except when I went to do their 2nd topping..
I go with a controversial mainline structure... So it instead of just your first 2 shoots like with a reg mainline... You'd add that second node above it just to add symmetry and start off squared up from the get... But after that where I topped again to create the 8 cola structure... One went limp and decided I wanted to be a bush all the sudden and the other was still racing up up up like it's been doing since I popped him...
It is frustrating but it's been fun...

Probably take the 3 male pots after pulling them and go get a bunch of worms to eat up the roots as they die and try starting up a Lil worm bin... Add the food and additives as I expand past those three : 3 gallon pots.... Nothing professional quality jus a diy for fun and personal.. maybe by and ice chest put those pot plugs in it and top it off with whatever a good bin calls for... N worms for castings later
Fire in Fire out. Crap in Crap out.. get it?
 
MagicNative1

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Lol, ummmmmmmmm... No.!.! No I don't understand 🀣... You replied to the whole feed I wrote about a yr ago on a bag seeds pheno hunt... I can't remember but I think I might have killed off the only female I had growing at the time (maybe) and then the rest just kept coming out males.... But I'd already received my fem seeds from the UK so I quit messin with it and just started running my quality instead of trying to find the femals to those same pheno's I was previously growin.. infact I have some ok strains right now growing and one of those random pheno's if it wasn't a for sure male would have been growing out looking way better just on color and structure than my Bruce Banner x Kali Mist, OG Kush, and a random buy at the dispo was an ice 🍨 Cake clone... And they look nice but nothing like this dude did... And yeah if I could go back through right now without chancing my breeding I'm 90 days from then I absolutely would because I can guarantee bag seed or not that one pheno when I do find it as a fem is probably goin to be bomb as fuuuuuuuuk....
But I mean at some point your going to be putting them into your tent and even if you just cut them down into a thousand pieces like I did a year ago it's kinda the main obvious point that your probably going to be putting stuff in and then taking it out again even if you are successful.......

So. πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ˜Ž
 
DoobieBro462

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Lol, ummmmmmmmm... No.!.! No I don't understand 🀣... You replied to the whole feed I wrote about a yr ago on a bag seeds pheno hunt... I can't remember but I think I might have killed off the only female I had growing at the time (maybe) and then the rest just kept coming out males.... But I'd already received my fem seeds from the UK so I quit messin with it and just started running my quality instead of trying to find the femals to those same pheno's I was previously growin.. infact I have some ok strains right now growing and one of those random pheno's if it wasn't a for sure male would have been growing out looking way better just on color and structure than my Bruce Banner x Kali Mist, OG Kush, and a random buy at the dispo was an ice 🍨 Cake clone... And they look nice but nothing like this dude did... And yeah if I could go back through right now without chancing my breeding I'm 90 days from then I absolutely would because I can guarantee bag seed or not that one pheno when I do find it as a fem is probably goin to be bomb as fuuuuuuuuk....
But I mean at some point your going to be putting them into your tent and even if you just cut them down into a thousand pieces like I did a year ago it's kinda the main obvious point that your probably going to be putting stuff in and then taking it out again even if you are successful.......

So. πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ˜Ž
Lol, ummmmmmmmm... No.!.! No I don't understand 🀣... You replied to the whole feed I wrote about a yr ago on a bag seeds pheno hunt... I can't remember but I think I might have killed off the only female I had growing at the time (maybe) and then the rest just kept coming out males.... But I'd already received my fem seeds from the UK so I quit messin with it and just started running my quality instead of trying to find the femals to those same pheno's I was previously growin.. infact I have some ok strains right now growing and one of those random pheno's if it wasn't a for sure male would have been growing out looking way better just on color and structure than my Bruce Banner x Kali Mist, OG Kush, and a random buy at the dispo was an ice 🍨 Cake clone... And they look nice but nothing like this dude did... And yeah if I could go back through right now without chancing my breeding I'm 90 days from then I absolutely would because I can guarantee bag seed or not that one pheno when I do find it as a fem is probably goin to be bomb as fuuuuuuuuk....
But I mean at some point your going to be putting them into your tent and even if you just cut them down into a thousand pieces like I did a year ago it's kinda the main obvious point that your probably going to be putting stuff in and then taking it out again even if you are successful.......

So. πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ˜Ž
I never had any luck with bag seeds. I tried multiple times to no avail. Like every time I got a seed that was from decent quality bud I would save the seed and try to germinate it.
But they never grew..
 
Buzzzz

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Some males good be gems most ppl just throw away but you could be throwing away your other half of a golden ticket im a breeder so i can see the use for both .fems are nice but not good breeders seed banks use them to keep you from using there genomes they think are special
A great male is much more valuable than a female,they are much harder to find,many won't stay in veg or combine well,along with keeping people from reproducing their stock,fems and autos are also to keep repeat customers .
 

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