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My buddy said you can recycle roaches into clear. I would assume charcoal and some strong acid. But imagine turning a bag of roaches into a clear thc gel in a home lab. The clear he made was always good.View attachment 1187865
Evaporated down into some decent looking oil actually that tasted relatively clean. Yield was 1.2g of THC so nothing to write home about but it is slightly funny to get that from just a scissor washing bath.
-Eskander
So this article does more or less that. Clean extract from a fucking ashtray lol...My buddy said you can recycle roaches into clear. I would assume charcoal and some strong acid. But imagine turning a bag of roaches into a clear thc gel in a home lab. The clear he made was always good.
Yeah we never used any Hexane. It was always a quick BHO and then purge. Distill. And then recombine. And the recycling projects tended to create more waste than it was worth. But that guy seems to have a decent system. I personally don't do a lot of lab time. Not for me. I just like recycling. I mean some of my buddies shovel up the trichomes that come off the racks and toss it in the garbage by the pound. It kills me not running it for shatter at least. But it's just so much time and effort to run batches. It's just easier to run premium flowers. It's crazy.So this article does more or less that. Clean extract from a fucking ashtray lol...
Skip down to the bottom on the section labeled "Alcohol/Hexane wash" and read through "Hexane/Saline water wash" as well. I do wonder if it would work just as well with something like refined coconut oil so you wouldn't have to purge it afterwards. Obviously the extract oil would be too thick without being thinned down in something but the basic polar/non-polar interaction should work more or less the same. Might give it a run both ways if I have some terrible output to try and salvage.
-Eskander
That is a project/experiment I have had on the back burner. I have about 0.25lb or more of roaches just for that. I was (and still am) very curious as to how well they can be cleaned up. If there is interest, I wil do exactly that and post the process and results.My buddy said you can recycle roaches into clear. I would assume charcoal and some strong acid. But imagine turning a bag of roaches into a clear thc gel in a home lab. The clear he made was always good.
It's more of a fun project than a money maker. But apparently you can get clear gel.That is a project/experiment I have had on the back burner. I have about 0.25lb or more of roaches just for that. I was (and still am) very curious as to how well they can be cleaned up. If there is interest, I wil do exactly that and post the process and results.
It's more of a fun project than a money maker. But apparently you can get clear gel.
I think you are to the point with roaches where tossing them in a blender with solvent isn't really going to hurt anything. You are going to filter the hell out of it anyway. The hexane saline thing works great but I wouldn't recumbent that approach unless you have a fume hood to work in. You also need to scrub the hexane out with repeated ethanol washes and then a purge chamber so it is a shitload of extra work. Still, if the goal is to get the best thing out of complete garbage it might be fun for shits and giggles.Exactly. I was going to give all the oil to a buddy if he took the time to tear apart all the roaches. I just want to do it to see. I got better shit to consume. LOL
Good idea on the TLC. I have a bit still left to filter and can do exactly that. Looking around a bit, literature is all over the place on canabanoid binding on activated charcoal. Some say up to 50% loss in THC while others seem to indicate less than a percent. Not sure if that comes down to differences in the charcoal, technique or what. Saw one paper that suggested pH might effect the adsorption rate but then didn't have data for it...TLC test the black stuff then the gold stuff. I think you will find that charcoal is not a targeted filter on just the contaminants you don't want. I think you will measure significant cannabinoids lost in the process to the charcoal. And terpenes. I'll wager more than half.
I would use a distillation process like a short path if I was serious about this. That way you are separating based on boiling points which can be highly specific and targeted. If you are just playing around, good job on cleaning that up. Visually looks great.
I was following a guy on youtube that was selling short path and rotovap and other extraction devices when I first started doing this. Can't even remember his name now, but he had hours of video of all these methods. He devoted a lot of time to trying to make activated charcoal work in his process. His results were exactly what I describe - charcoal stripped a significant amount of cannabinoids along with chlorophyll. After months of messing with it, changing things, temps, vacuum, pretty much all the set points, he determined that charcoal is only good for - as you put it - polishing a turd. Has no real place in a proper extraction plan if efficiency is an important factor.Good idea on the TLC. I have a bit still left to filter and can do exactly that. Looking around a bit, literature is all over the place on canabanoid binding on activated charcoal. Some say up to 50% loss in THC while others seem to indicate less than a percent. Not sure if that comes down to differences in the charcoal, technique or what. Saw one paper that suggested pH might effect the adsorption rate but then didn't have data for it...
Terpene loss I'm not hugely concerned with. I tend to think it is minor canabanoids that differentiate effects from strain to strain rather than terpenes. Time (and receptor binding studies) will tell though.
-Eskander
Been thinking of going to short path but I'm not sure my volume of throughput would make it worth the effort. What is the smallest run you would bother with? Offhand, I can't see doing it with less that 100ml of crude. Also, do you distill the terpenes off separately or collect them in the same flask as the THC? Lastly, given your THCV interest, does that and other minor canabanoids distill off with THC?I would use a distillation process like a short path if I was serious about this.
I think I have $1500 in my short path because I use the vacuum and chiller from the rotovap for both systems. So that’s the first hurdle does it make any kind of financial sense? Probably not for this purpose.Been thinking of going to short path but I'm not sure my volume of throughput would make it worth the effort. What is the smallest run you would bother with? Offhand, I can't see doing it with less that 100ml of crude. Also, do you distill the terpenes off separately or collect them in the same flask as the THC? Lastly, given your THCV interest, does that and other minor canabanoids distill off with THC?
-Eskander
Good info. Handy chart for sure. Which short path did you end up with? There are a surprisingly wide range of prices for gear that looks pretty similar...I think I have $1500 in my short path because I use the vacuum and chiller from the rotovap for both systems. So that’s the first hurdle does it make any kind of financial sense? Probably not for this purpose.
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