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Did you use a scope to try to identify russets? Your plants look exactly like my first encounter with the cyclamen mite. I spent weeks chasing what I thought was a zinc deficiency that led to a magnesium and nitrate lockout.
These things will hide on the underside of leaves and in the crevices of new flowering sites. If you've never encountered them before I suggest at least a 50x scope and spend some time researching these things so you know what you are looking for.
Cyclamen/Broads/Russets are all similar, typically when viewing through a scope on the undersides of leaves, you'll see what looks like tons of tiny little hairs, and amongst these hairs you'll see these "round" white to amber abnormalities. These abnormalities tend to be their eggs which is the easiest way to identify them.I have a handheld 60-120x microscope, and I have not been able to locate any sort of mite. I've been searching for the last two weeks underneath and above the leaves, on their petioles, and at the nodes of young and older growth. I don't have personal experience identifying anything besides spider mites and fungus gnats. I haven't heard of cyclamen mite, I'll look into those. Thank you
Cyclamen/Broads/Russets are all similar, typically when viewing through a scope on the undersides of leaves, you'll see what looks like tons of tiny little hairs, and amongst these hairs you'll see these "round" white to amber abnormalities. These abnormalities tend to be their eggs which is the easiest way to identify them.
Broad mites tend to lay singular eggs and will be marked with spots.
Cyclamen mites tend to lay eggs in clusters and should be easier to identify.
I've never encountered russets, and hope I never do, haha.
...and never buy shady clones from a struggling spot in Detroit, most likely the reason they are struggling and you now have cyclamens.
Those are eggs
Does not resemble any proto trichome I've ever seen, and I know a bit as I work with carnivorous plants that utilize them to feed like Sundews. I've shared my opinion, sorry if I've offended you. Hope it works out.I see how my words can be misinterpretted, i'll edit my original post for clarity. I meant the MAC clone is struggling, not the the clone shop. The clone shop is ran by SUBdlc and its called 313 clones..they have built a reputation in California and now in Detroit. Haven't found any complaints yet about mite infestations.
You are sure about eggs then? Did it look like this for you when you dealt with your infestation? I am still dubious, because I cannot find a single mite!
Does not resemble any proto trichome I've ever seen, and I know a bit as I work with carnivorous plants that utilize them to feed like Sundews. I've shared my opinion, sorry if I've offended you. Hope it works out.
Never had those bugs, and my experience was due to uneven temps at the canapy and soil/root level.
I got rid of the mature leaves, raised the container and she recovered great.
To me, cold temps.
Interesting thread I'm not sure what those are in the picture and I'm not in organic grower but I'm going to follow along because I want to see if those are mites, I'm tending to agree with you that they are not, but either way maybe we can find out? -good luck!I'm hesitant to upload microscopic photos for fear it'll distract from what I believe is a nutrient issue in the soil, but here we go...this is the closest thing I can find to what might resemble an egg. Seem like proto-trichromes to me. I'm not very familiar with plant biology, but my gut tells me these are not eggs. This was captured on the underside of the leaf near the central vein of a leaf blade.
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Interesting thread I'm not sure what those are in the picture and I'm not in organic grower but I'm going to follow along because I want to see if those are mites, I'm tending to agree with you that they are not, but either way maybe we can find out? -good luck!
Well I picked up a nice Greenleaf off the floor from just a couple hours ago and put my little microscope to it and I got to change my voteHey Beachwalker, thank you for stopping by! I'd love to draw attention this thread, so we can at the very least settle the mite issue. It wasn't what I was hoping to accomplish when I started this, but it's better than nothing.
I'm still thinking I messed up my soil mix with guano and 600ppm tap water. We'll have to wait and see if we can get any additional opinions on here.
Well I picked up a nice Greenleaf off the floor from just a couple hours ago and put my little microscope to it and I got to change my vote
not saying it is, but at this point I got to go with BMG because the little Proto trichomes i saw didn't look anything like what's in your picture, but those things do look like eggs
Not saying start spraying, let's get some input but I did what I could with my little microscope and it didn't look like your picture, hope I'm wrong! :/
I can't get a picture with my little portable microscope but the picture you just posted looks more like what I saw
but this picture doesn't..
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Jeez I don't know? But I think we can find out!? Lots of top Growers on this site and lots of high-tech equipment too, Way Beyond My Little hand-held microscope
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