Price Fluctuations Threaten To Drive Marijuana Growers Out Of Business

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A marijuana market saturated with product, falling prices and high taxes have put some Washington pot growers on the brink of closure, industry experts say.


Marijuana growers and processors in the Evergreen state blame state regulators and an excise tax of 25 percent for what they say is a supplier-crushing bottleneck. Regulators failed to anticipate crop cycles or issue production and retail licenses cohesively, which led to a flooded market, roughly a dozen growers and retailers tell GoLocalPDX.

Put simply, there are more Washington growers with more marijuana than the market has demand for, and wholesale prices have dropped to a third of what they were when retailers opened their doors in July.

“We’re in a serious blood bath right now for producers and processors,” said CannaSol owner Jeremy Moberg. He said marijuana growers are selling at below their production cost just to stay afloat. “The house is burning down, there’s a 31,000-pound supply in Washington, that’s ten years of supply,” he said.

Industry watchers say the market mayhem and price wards in Washington are a real warning to Oregon, as the state readies to roll out its own legal pot market later this year.

Falling market

Vancouver, Washington marijuana retailer New Vansterdam was ready for opening day, but at a cost, spokesperson Shon-Leuiss Harris said.

When legal recreational cannabis hit the market, growers were courted with premium prices for their limited product -- between $10 and $14 per gram -- from retail shops that needed stock in order to open, Harris said. Washington growers had expected the average wholesale price would be no less than $6 per gram, or $2,721 a pound.

“There were some pretty laughable prices in July,” Harris said. At one point, New Vansterdam was offered a wholesale price of $21 per gram. Comparatively, current retail sale prices range between $15, on the low end, and $25 per gram.

But, as outdoor crops came to harvest at the same time, the market flooded, giving retailers the ability to negotiate cut-throat prices. Moberg, who said he is sitting on 1,500 pounds of marijuana, said some farmers are selling to other producers, as well as retailers, for as low as $2 per gram. To break even, a grow operation can sell for no less than $3-$4 per gram.

“It started out being a golden ticket to turning into another struggling business industry,” said 3RB grower Rocky Butain. Rather than selling for $7 a gram as he anticipated, he is lucky to get $4 per gram.

“No producer planned their business around $4 a gram,” said Harris, who wouldn’t specify what New Vansterdam, which brings in $1 million per month in gross sales, pays for wholesale marijuana flowers. But, he said he is seeing a trend of prices between $3 and $6.

As of Tuesday, Feb. 3, there were roughly 380 producers and processors (most are both) and 114 of retailers, theWashington State Liquor Control Board’s Brian Smith said. In total, 334 retail licenses will be issued.

Farmers reeling

In roughly a dozen interviews conducted by GoLocalPDX, retailers and growers said that farmers across the state are reeling from overproduction.

“Profit margins went from extremely good to barely worth it,” said Moberg, who has had at least one job inquiry from a worker at a farm that is going out of business.

“There are people throwing in the towel already," he said.

Some farmers are trying to stay alive by offloading their goods to other producers and processors.

Christopher White, a small-level grower at West Coast Herbs, said he gets calls everyday from farmers trying to sell their stock.

“They can’t get rid of it, nobody wants it,” he said.

Power Shifts to Retailers

After initial shortages the economic power has shifted from growers to retailers, and some growers are selling at a loss to establish a place in the market.

“If there is relief in sight, it’s legislative,” said Moberg, who is lobbying for measures in the Washington legislature that would improve market conditions, including lifting city and county moratoriums banning the sale of marijuana, and increase the number of retail outlets.

Smith, of the WSLCB, said growers are upset they aren’t making the money they’d hoped for, but that the market glut is a boon for consumers. He said to be competitive with the black market, retailers need to be able to sell for $12 per gram. But, Harris said to stay in business retailing for that price, wholesale cost would need to be in the ballpark of $1 per gram.

Harris said he has knows growers who are “re-evaluating” the move to commercially farm marijuana.

White, who grew medicinal marijuana prior to getting a recreational permit, said his small operation serves a niche -- powerful boutique pot that retails for $24 a gram -- that does not face the distribution bottleneck larger outdoor operations are facing.

“People are getting weeded out already,” he said. The shop White sells to carries between just four and five growers.

“A lot of people feel stupid for applying for this license,” White said. “Everyone thought recreational was a gold mine and it’s the opposite.”

White said he is happy to sell for $7 a gram, but knows some growers selling for $2.

A warning for Oregon

Southern Oregon growers are already producing more marijuana than the legal recreational market will buy, Moberg said. The licensing structure in Colorado, the only other state where marijuana is legal, differs from Washington’s in that it allowed the producers to hold retail licenses, which Washington’s forbids. Stand-alone retailers and producers were only allowed after October, 2014.

In Washington, an excise tax of 25 percent applies between producer and processor, processor and retailer, and retailer to consumer, while Colorado enacted a lesser 15 percent excise tax and a 10 percent sales tax.

Grower and retailer licensing was at the top of a list of recommendations industry experts had for Oregon to avoid challenges Washington is facing. Moberg warns that Oregon’s top concern should be capping production. Meanwhile, the OLCC is hearing from Oregonians around the state as it takes initial steps in developing a marijuana regulation process.


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........:confused::eek:........ At $1 a gram in order to sell at $6....... Shut down recreational and stick to medical, just make Joe Shmoe dealer a legal entity maybe....... 31,000 lbs is gonna take some smokin to get movin, but from what I haveseen in pics, recreational weed ain't any good anyway which is probably why they are sitting on it still.
 
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Meanwhile black market is booming,lol.Also last we heard from @inthegorge she was doing pretty good,almost in the black and everyone on payroll happy.

Everything we produce on our farm is what they call artisan, quality over quantity...
Same with anything farmers grow that stands above the rest , it's called a niche market.
Our meat chickens and eggs are the very best. We cannot meet the demand.
Stand up, stand out, folks do not mind paying for quality..
I will farm on, fish on, let the rest fight it out....
Time for a dump.....
 
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And again at the end of day for us it's about pride in what we produces, pride over profit.
We have many customers for our produce who will go without or wait for us to provide them with quality foods/ mmj, that are way more than some thing to eat ....
Same with MJ, find loyal folks who appreciate what it takes to do it right. Be fair, they will always will come back for more.
Never put quantity over quality and remember $$$ is the root of all evil.
We are not rich in $$$s we are rich in the love we put into everything we do.
Dump complete 10lbs lighter....
 
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It's all the real estate guys that brought money to the table who are complaining..lol
 
Ned Kelly

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So they thought they'd get top shelf prices for their shitty outdoor? Boo-hoo.

The prices they're discussing for OD seem pretty standard, maybe even a little bit high.


hey outdoors does not
= shit . ive grown buds outdoor that r of equal quality to what ive seen here.
 
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let me just say this . Indoor growers have had the pleasure of greater advancements in growing tech ,due to the money involved lights tents ect . bit like the computer to car evolution. if cars had evolved at the same rate as computers , we'd be dirving a car to work deflate it throw it in the bin and buy another to go home for $2.50. still the best smoke i ve ever had all comes from outdoors and the best looking bushes you will ever see outdoors.
 
Muckman420

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there are more chances of FOD when you grow stricly just outside and not in a greenhouse, which will produce cleaner outdoor. when grown inside you can very much change variables in your favor IMPE
 
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regardless, stick to the gold standard, prices fluctuate but if you got it, it sells itself no matter the cost....

outdoor can be great dont get me wrong. but most FIRE happens indoor weather it be greanhouse, tent, room, closet, i had a friend who grew crazy monster plants in a huge snake terarium, with mirrors all over, not that i would try that but my point is with all the time and effort, and love is woth more than a quick buck.
 
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Trouble is the consumer doesn't know sativa from indica and couldn't tell you if they were smoking outdoor or in. Tell me there isn't a grower/slanger.....going back to just out of high school days with that term, that hasn't made up a name for their weed just so some fool who wants to get high on the next big bud craze will buy their herb. People say that weed makes people stupid but the truth of the matter is most consumers were stupid long before they started smoking. So you make it recreational and now you have flooded the market with ignorant consumers who will buy what the clubs are selling, leaving foolish growers grasping at golden pipe dreams of easy money for their okay bud. Let them go out of business it will mean that growers that are worth a damn won't be short changed for the quality of their medicine, makes me warm and fuzzy thinking of the days to come.......skeet skeet.
 
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Simply short sighted business planning. Anyone in this game long enough should be aware of drought in the summer and prices through the roof! I am sure business planning was made on that assumption of high summer prices.,,.and you know what we have been dealing with 3-4 dollars a gram for years in Cali !!!!! We do just fine , time to step up Washington it's major league! Welcome to commercialization!
 
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Electricity is dirt cheap in Washington too. Sure that might factor in some where along the way. It's where a lot of bitcoin farms popped up too.
 
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Outdoors grows make for shitty weed? It wasn't long ago (a few years back) I saw 3200 for OD. ...... lucky? dunno.
 

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