Problems with some of my ladies

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I've got to get the ph right with a couple good flushes and wash away the excess nitrogen. After both those objectives are complete, they should start growing correctly again.
Sis you lower the light and tilt?
 
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Sis you lower the light and tilt?
I tilted them for 24 hours and raised the lights. I haven't lowered the lights back down yet because some of the plants are still looking sick. One of the plants seemed to bounce back after the first initial flush.
 
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I tilted them for 24 hours and raised the lights. I haven't lowered the lights back down yet because some of the plants are still looking sick. One of the plants seemed to bounce back after the first initial flush.
Yeah they just need time to grow some new roots
 
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Yeah they just need time to grow some new roots
Great. I'm going to flush once or twice more and water without nutes until I see new growth without the dark green color, the claw, and/or nute burn. I want the ladies to recover at optimal performance and then maintain peak performance.
 
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Great. I'm going to flush once or twice more and water without nutes until I see new growth without the dark green color, the claw, and/or nute burn. I want the ladies to recover at optimal performance and then maintain peak performance.
No wait for them to dry well now before watering
 
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It drains ore water from the substrate because of the perched water table being a constant. This helps to conbat over watering (lack of o2) in plants that are not avle to pull enough water dueling recover to ensure good gas exchange
 
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@E9noxis after reading this is will make more sense for you i hope. If not just tag me and ill try to explain it all in a different way

 
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No wait for them to dry well now before watering
I'm only watering m6 other ladies who have minor nitrogen toxicity and the nutrient burned ones because they needed water. The first picture is of one with minor toxicity issues and the second picture is of one of the plants that got much better just after one flush. The third image is of a sativa I believe to be experiencing nutrient toxicity and a soil ph imbalance like some of the others.
 
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I'm only watering m6 other ladies who have minor nitrogen toxicity and the nutrient burned ones because they needed water. The first picture is of one with minor toxicity issues and the second picture is of one of the plants that got much better just after one flush. The third image is of a sativa I believe to be experiencing nutrient toxicity and a soil ph imbalance like some of the others.
Still showing light stress in the last pic. Move that plant into the corner or lower intensity
 
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That maxi bloom is strong, how much did you feed, combined with the FFOF.

What’s you’re humidity at?

Briefly, ime

Crinkled leafs are caused by too much light (trying to fold its self away from the intensity) , and possibly humidity issues as well going on there.
 
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That maxi bloom is strong, how much did you feed, combined with the FFOF.

What’s you’re humidity at?

Briefly, ime

Crinkled leafs are caused by too much light (trying to fold its self away from the intensity) , and possibly humidity issues as well going on there.
I fed them for four weeks straight. First dose was one teaspoon per gallon. Second and third feedings were 1/2 a teaspoon per gallon and the fourth feeding was 3/4 teaspoon per gallon. I fed them once a week. I think my mistake was that I did not give them a break and only use nutes every other feeding. Last grow, I was using Nectar for the Gods. That fertilizer line was much more forgiving and easier for the plants to uptake. Didn't have these issues last grow. Only drawbacks were that the line is very expensive and the plants ate up those nutes in much larger quantities.
RH fluctuates between 60% - 75%.
 
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Great. I'm going to flush once or twice more and water without nutes until I see new growth without the dark green color, the claw, and/or nute burn. I want the ladies to recover at optimal performance and then maintain peak performance.
Not sure that’s a good idea. Flushing for a remedy is very tricky. What ever you do , do it very slowly, start with a report card on the environment and placement of the pots.
 
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Not sure that’s a good idea. Flushing for a remedy is very tricky. What ever you do , do it very slowly, start with a report card on the environment and placement of the pots.
I've got a dehumidifier in there that removes moisture in the room very efficiently. My pots dry out faster because of it. The relative humidity stays between 55% - 65%. The temperatures peak at 85 degrees with the lights on and dip down to 72 degrees when the lights are off. If you don't recommend flushing, how would you handle a nitrogen toxicity in some of the plants? If you don't flush the excess nitrogen out, what is a better option? Letting the plants overdose until they use up all the excess nitrogen? Also, my ph is high too, 7.5 - 8.0. Will vinegar, either white or Apple cider vinegar, bring the ph down safely and keep it down? I was recommended Aluminum Sulfate, but have never used it before and am nervous about it's potential side effects. I have them raised up about an inch off the floor.
 
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That maxi bloom is strong, how much did you feed, combined with the FFOF.

What’s you’re humidity at?

Briefly, ime

Crinkled leafs are caused by too much light (trying to fold its self away from the intensity) , and possibly humidity issues as well going on there.
Humidity is fluctuating between 55% - 65%. I Fed the plants maxigrow for four weeks straight, one feeding per week. I 1st started out with one tsp per gallon. It seemed too strong, so the next 2 feedings, I gave each plant roughly 1/2 a tsp per gallon, giving them 3/4 of a gallon per plant. On the final feeding, I increased maxigro to 3/4 tsp per gallon. I stopped after I saw the issues and have been giving them just ph adjusted water until the plants use up the excess nutes and the problems start to get better. I'm not sure if it's a light intensity problem the problem because the lights I'm using are being run at a little under 50% power. It might be a light intense problem, but I don't think so.
 
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Humidity is fluctuating between 55% - 65%. I Fed the plants maxigrow for four weeks straight, one feeding per week. I 1st started out with one tsp per gallon. It seemed too strong, so the next 2 feedings, I gave each plant roughly 1/2 a tsp per gallon, giving them 3/4 of a gallon per plant. On the final feeding, I increased maxigro to 3/4 tsp per gallon. I stopped after I saw the issues and have been giving them just ph adjusted water until the plants use up the excess nutes and the problems start to get better. I'm not sure if it's a light intensity problem the problem because the lights I'm using are being run at a little under 50% power. It might be a light intense problem, but I don't think so.
Ok, here’s something a little strange to try. Your feeding does not seem to be the problem. Try this position a fan so it blows straight down at the top of the plants, maintain adding calmag. Your plants regardless will end up producing nice buds, but that should help. Lastly if you can measure ppfd make sure it’s about 600 at canopy level.
 
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Ok, here’s something a little strange to try. Your feeding does not seem to be the problem. Try this position a fan so it blows straight down at the top of the plants, maintain adding calmag. Your plants regardless will end up producing nice buds, but that should help. Lastly if you can measure ppfd make sure it’s about 600 at canopy level.
What? Thats nuts bro. 600 ppfd to a stressed plant in veg?

Im ipen to understanding the reasoning behind your advice but i cant see how any of this will help him and not actually severely hurt his grow even more
 
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What? Thats nuts bro. 600 ppfd to a stressed plant in veg?

Im ipen to understanding the reasoning behind your advice but i cant see how any of this will help him and not actually severely hurt his grow even more
Ok, here’s something a little strange to try. Your feeding does not seem to be the problem. Try this position a fan so it blows straight down at the top of the plants, maintain adding calmag. Your plants regardless will end up producing nice buds, but that should help. Lastly if you can measure ppfd make sure it’s about 600 at canopy level.
Those Thai Sativas are actually looking much better. The Tirah Valley kush with the nitrogen toxicity are a different story. I think only patience and time will tell if they're going to recover and how long it's going to take for recovery. I have a gut feeling that they're going to make a comeback, but i could be mistaken. Here's a video of my entire grow.
 

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