Max Frost
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Holly fuck bro on some off your very young they look burnt as if your soil was to strong and on others they look like they need N.
If bb seen them he'll give you the Awnser your looking.
Damn Maxx...always something setting you back bro...but we can win here...is your water from a city supply or private well?....are the Temps at the plant tops or room average?...I've never seen a seed of most any strain that would not grow well from the start with no more than you are using...my first bet would be it is something simple being overlooked...you've touched on both areas...an easy test would be to start 1 bean and use bottled water only...or try it on these and see if they improve any at all....verify your temps at plant tops.....meter calibration....my use of FF products over the years have grown numerous runs with little to no issues...I also think the issue would show instantly if the soil was faulty/hot...not after germ to this size...the reason I ask about the water, is around here, the fluctuation of chlorine/ph is vast sometimes in our city water...seedlings hate that type stuff, but a more mature plant will deal with it a little better sometimes...hang in there...we'll get um green and going...B
I see on some of the plants what resembles K-/+. I'm wondering about the soil and the LK, because in years past I've seen folks really fuck up their plants with the LK. It's just been a while and I honestly don't recall if they looked like *that*, especially the fried ones.
Do you know if your tap water is being treated with chlorine or chloramine? Chlorine can be outgassed over 24hrs, chloramine cannot, it must be 'broken' chemically. I kinda doubt that's the problem, but putting it out there.
Gotta admit, I'm stumped on this one, never seen anything quite like it outside of super-hot conditions where the roots were getting cooked. July, middle of summer, black nursery pots and a woman who had no idea.
Max,
Did you make a slurry out of the FF soil and PH the slurry then the run off ? They look just like mine at the start of my last grow ...... Had to change out the soil on mine ..... Slowed them down a bit, but they bounced back.
Just remember I don't know crap ... :confused:
A bit more info...
pH of my runoff water (of the young veg plants only...not my mature flowering ones) measured at 5.4 !!! :wtf:
WTF is up with THAT??? I'm using Happy Frog soil, right out of the bag for my germs/starts. I pH my water to 6.3 to 6.7 range, always shooting for as close to 6.5 as I can get. (It's just damn near impossible to pH plain water and get it stabilized with no nutes in it, so I use the range when using just plain water). Using pH'd water, and no nutes...how does the pH get so low in the soil? I'm wondering if the Happy Frog is as good as it was years ago when I used to use it. I always liked it for starts back then. Lately though...I'm having allot of probs from it, it seems like. I'm also noticing that it has A LOT more fucking bark in the mix than it used to. Doesn't the wood/bark chips lower the pH? Isn't that pretty acidic?
Does anybody have a recommendation for a better starting mix?
YIKES!!!
okay guys first off let me say I'm using the voice text thing on my phone so if some of the sentences here look very messed up thats the reason so don't mind it another literate I think its a pH fluctuation and it's mainly caused by the bag of soil that was used it could be a factor of the meter being messed up but I'm not really sure about that, seeing as how the new plants look pretty rough and the ones that are in flower for a while are starting to show issues as well there is a chance it could be the meter too. are the plants that you showed in flour transplanted into the same bale of soil that you used for the clones and seeds? are you still have this issue quite a bit before I nailed down that was pH I had a bad string of meters and I saw the exact same issues each time it almost looks like an overlap of different deficiencies but in reality what it comes down to is because the pH is off its okay to the range to take up anything so the plants could show many many effects. as for correcting it I would say your best bet is to flush with higher pH water you can use an incredibly light nutrient mix and pH a bit high but that's a touch risky I really wouldn't like to do that myself, it's better to flush with straight water that's pH fairly high and just continuously flush it in one sitting until the pH gets back into the range that you want that's going to take awhile though so have a lot of water ready
I hope it's possible to understand that using this voice thing cause I noticed mistakes from like the very beginning
Bark is bad, too much acid imo.i was gonna say a bad bag of soil and if they overran the bark it's high acidic now.i can't complain about promix bx or house n garden coco.those r the only 2 media I have put seeds and clones directly into without ever having a problem.botanicare and canna coco both gave me problems at one time or another.hope you get it sorted max, peace.
Hey Max,
I switched over to SUNSHINE ADVANCED MIX #4 did some reading about FF Soil, it seems they started a second plant on the East Coast to save on shipping costs..... One problem is they use pine mulch mixed in and pine is very acidic.
Z...............
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