Pulling my hair out. Help please.

[bertandernie]

Strain: Autoflower - Strawberry Cough
Medium: Soil with clay pellets. Based in Germany. Soil was from a DIY store and labeled as cannabis soil. Tested Soil PH sitting around 6.0-6.5
Nutrients: Biobizz - starter set
Age: 3 weeks
Pot: Fabric 9L
Watering: 2-3 days
Humidity: 55%-70%
Temp: 22-27 celcius
Light: TS600 Mars hydro (100w). Kept that DLI is around 30.0 for 24 hours.
Lights: I run the lights 24hours.


So, currently pulling out my hair. This is my first grow started with 2 seeds. The other seedling did exactly the same 2 weeks ago. The growth is stunded and now it seems to be dying. This plant was healthy until 4/5 days ago.

Leaves are drooping, yellow and some spots of brown. I thought it may have been watering, but, I've been consciously checking by dipping my finger to the knuckle in the soil. Currently it's little damp, but I would not call it 'wet'.

I thought it may have been nitrogen deficiency, so added some BIO grow from Biobizz to the last watering that was around 2 days ago. Seems to have gotten worse since then.

I am at a loss. Help is really appreciated

 

[ArtistZanner]

I'm' also a newbie, and I'm not going to pretend I know what I'm talking about, but I'm just noticing your soil looks a lot different from what I've seen. Did you mix any perlite into that for aeration?

 

[bertandernie]

I'm' also a newbie, and I'm not going to pretend I know what I'm talking about, but I'm just noticing your soil looks a lot different from what I've seen. Did you mix any perlite into that I tried

I'm' also a newbie, and I'm not going to pretend I know what I'm talking about, but I'm just noticing your soil looks a lot different from what I've seen. Did you mix any perlite into that for aeration?

You are right, it does look different. Where I bought my soil, they didnt sell Perlite, so I added clay pellets. Maybe the soil is the issue.

I have ordered better soil online for the future grows

I am a first time grower too.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

I am at a loss. Help is really appreciated

Starting plants has been the hardest part of growing for me, so you're not alone. I'm also not the best resource, but I'll try. To me, your plant looks hungry, but sometimes yellowing can mean the roots aren't getting enough oxygen because the soil is too wet. The spots on the leaves can indicate that but can also indicate calcium deficiency or disease. The leaves look a little bloated, which could also indicate the soil is too wet. Many growers start their plants in small pots because it's easier to water.

 

[bertandernie]

Starting plants has been the hardest part of growing for me, so you're not alone. I'm also not the best resource, but I'll try. To me, your plant looks hungry, but sometimes yellowing can mean the roots aren't getting enough oxygen because the soil is too wet. The spots on the leaves can indicate that but can also indicate calcium deficiency or disease. The leaves look a little bloated, which could also indicate the soil is too wet. Many growers start their plants in small pots because it's easier to water.

Thanks for your feedback.

I have had that feedback too about starting in a smaller pot, but, I also heard that autoflower should be planted in there final pot as they don't like to be repotted lol.

 

[ArtfulCodger]

Based only on the plant's appearance, I'd guess over-watered (leaf thickness and texture) and under-fed (leaf color). If the Biobizz nutes are organic, it will take time for the nitrogen and phosphorous in them to become plant-available.

 

[amneziaHaze]

Based only on the plant's appearance, I'd guess over-watered (leaf thickness and texture) and under-fed (leaf color). If the Biobizz nutes are organic, it will take time for the nitrogen and phosphorous in them to become plant-available.

you cant expect that much soil to be an underfeed plant? its at max 2weeks old

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

I have had that feedback too about starting in a smaller pot, but, I also heard that autoflower should be planted in there final pot as they don't like to be repotted lol.

I haven't grown many autoflower plants and started them in their final pot. They finished well, but they seemed to grow slowly at first. I've tried photoperiod plants both ways and it didn't seem to matter, except they grew slowly at first, as well. My thinking is there is more room for root growth, and that's the plant's priority when young, thus the slow growth may only be above the soil. I have basically concluded that what many say about autoflower plants being harder to grow is true. Everything needs to be nearly perfect, because there's not much opportunity to recover from mistakes.

 

[ArtfulCodger]

you cant expect that much soil to be an underfeed plant? its at max 2weeks old

I have no idea what's in the soil, and the nutes he said he gave require time to make N available. If the "soil" is an unamended soil-less mix, it could be hungry. Like I said, I'm just reading the plant. Looking at the main stalk width, I wouldn't be surprised if this plant was older than 2 weeks.

 

[bertandernie]

I haven't grown many autoflower plants and started them in their final pot. They finished well, but they seemed to grow slowly at first. I've tried photoperiod plants both ways and it didn't seem to matter, except they grew slowly at first, as well. My thinking is there is more room for root growth, and that's the plant's priority when young, thus the slow growth may only be above the soil. I have basically concluded that what many say about autoflower plants being harder to grow is true. Everything needs to be nearly perfect, because there's not much opportunity to recover from mistakes.

I've bought some photo's and I'll give them a grow.

From my naive point of view, I don't think that I did much wrong. But I guess if Autos are temperamental and my lack of experience, the result speak for themselves.

 

[RGWD0202]

Strain: Autoflower - Strawberry Cough
Medium: Soil with clay pellets. Based in Germany. Soil was from a DIY store and labeled as cannabis soil. Tested Soil PH sitting around 6.0-6.5
Nutrients: Biobizz - starter set
Age: 3 weeks
Pot: Fabric 9L
Watering: 2-3 days
Humidity: 55%-70%
Temp: 22-27 celcius
Light: TS600 Mars hydro (100w). Kept that DLI is around 30.0 for 24 hours.
Lights: I run the lights 24hours.


So, currently pulling out my hair. This is my first grow started with 2 seeds. The other seedling did exactly the same 2 weeks ago. The growth is stunded and now it seems to be dying. This plant was healthy until 4/5 days ago.

Leaves are drooping, yellow and some spots of brown. I thought it may have been watering, but, I've been consciously checking by dipping my finger to the knuckle in the soil. Currently it's little damp, but I would not call it 'wet'.

I thought it may have been nitrogen deficiency, so added some BIO grow from Biobizz to the last watering that was around 2 days ago. Seems to have gotten worse since then.

I am at a loss. Help is really appreciated

This appears to be over watered. You mention the clay pebbles I’m assuming you are using those as your aeration. At that stage I typically go 5-7 days between watering, the roots are tiny. Instead of sticking your finger in the soil to see when it needs watered, fill your container with soil, before watering weigh the container and make a note of the weight. Water your plant and weigh again. When the container weighs the same as it did when it was dry, water again. You’ll soon be able to pick the containers up and feel when they need watered. There may be more going on, but the watering is by far the most important and the easiest to over or under do.

 

[bertandernie]

I have no idea what's in the soil, and the nutes he said he gave require time to make N available. If the "soil" is an unamended soil-less mix, it could be hungry. Like I said, I'm just reading the plant. Looking at the main stalk width, I wouldn't be surprised if this plant was older than

This appears to be over watered. You mention the clay pebbles I’m assuming you are using those as your aeration. At that stage I typically go 5-7 days between watering, the roots are tiny. Instead of sticking your finger in the soil to see when it needs watered, fill your container with soil, before watering weigh the container and make a note of the weight. Water your plant and weigh again. When the container weighs the same as it did when it was dry, water again. You’ll soon be able to pick the containers up and feel when they need watered. There may be more going on, but the watering is by far the most important and the easiest to over or under do.

Great tip. Thank you

 

[bertandernie]

I ask myself, how would these plants survive in the wild. They are so needy and precious lol.

 

[the rrock]

I ask myself, how do these plants survive in the wild. They are so needy and precious lol.

not really,its a weed that used to grow wild back in the pioneer days. DIY growing requires patience and some folks learn and some just dont have the green thumb

 

[growmie]

I'd get a new medium to grow in and transplant.

Product Translation from German.

Greenworld's peat-free premium potting soil is ideal for various plants such as perennials, shrubs and vegetables as well as for lawns. It consists of a humus mixture with clay minerals that store water and nutrients and aerate the roots. For planting trees and shrubs, the planting hole should be large enough and the soil should be watered well when planting. Regular fertilization after about 2 weeks is recommended. In the case of flower beds, soil improvements or new lawn planting, it is recommended to incorporate 2-3 bags on 1m² and water after planting before the nutrient supply begins after 2 weeks. A drainage layer should be laid for potting and repotting, and regular fertilization is important after planting.

• fertilized mineral
• 100% peat free
• Packaging from min. 80% PCR film
• Contents: 50 L.

 

[amneziaHaze]

I ask myself, how would these plants survive in the wild. They are so needy and precious lol.

Well they usually grow in places that dont rain every day and get overwatered

 

[Captspaulding]

Def over watered.
I would 100% get into a different medium.
Most peat based soils are a
Great start.
Seems you are avoiding that.
No bueno.

 

[bertandernie]

Thanks for all of the support. I really appreciate you taking your time to give feedback.

My root cause analysis:

I think my medium is a problem, plus over-watering. The poor medium is making a slight over-watering a much bigger problem.

I repotted my plant in a small container with dry medium until new medium arrives.

The old medium was slightly damp, but very compact around the roots. Which, I guess is starving them.

I think the stress this autoflower received means it's gonner, but some good lessons learnt, hopefully!

Next Steps:

- New medium
- weight and water technique
- keep my fingers crossed :)

 

[bertandernie]

Well they usually grow in places that dont rain every day and get overwatered

It was a tongue in cheek comment. Bad workmen blame their tools.

 

[growmie]

Thanks for all of the support. I really appreciate you taking your time to give feedback.

My root cause analysis:

I think my medium is a problem, plus over-watering. The poor medium is making a slight over-watering a much bigger problem.

I repotted my plant in a small container with dry medium until new medium arrives.

The old medium was slightly damp, but very compact around the roots. Which, I guess is starving them.

I think the stress this autoflower received means it's gonner, but some good lessons learnt, hopefully!

Next Steps:

- New medium
- weight and water technique
- keep my fingers crossed :)

Consider it a learning experience. The soil retains too much water, your plant will water log and drown. You want the lightest, airy, soil or coco, 60% soil 40% perlite, or a soil specifically made for cannabis plants.

Maybe you can save the plant. After transplanting it, water it, then leave it under a light. Make sure there are holes on the bottom of your cup/pot so water drains. You should be OK, weed is pretty tough. As long as you don't damage the root during transplant you should be OK. Good luck!