Question about lights with bloom/veg switches

Buzzer777 · Mar 2, 2020

I wouldn't buy anything Mars due to their past reputation for POOR CS..Their new lights are better, but they are not using quality components imo. Mars invented the misinformation Hwy! LOL

I run these (there are newer ones out there too.) The 2 flanking the HIGH END Burple with Cree/Oshram diodes (I got that one free for testing it)

Each is 240 watts from the wall and have full dimming capability.

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Buzzer777 · Mar 2, 2020

To add: If you want all purpose spectrums. (veg and flower) I recommend 3000k or 3500K for the spectrum.

ru knuts · Mar 2, 2020

jagslax220 said:
Im with you about LED misinformation. The whole idea behind buying these cheaper lights was that I was going to upgrade, but I didnt think they were THAT inefficent, again, I saw the output on a quantum sensor and its exactly what was advertised.

What about something along the lines of this?

https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-S...9Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

I went with the SP-250, that one was my 2nd choice.

jaguarlax · Mar 2, 2020

Buzzer777 said:
I wouldn't buy anything Mars due to their past reputation for POOR CS..Their new lights are better, but they are not using quality components imo. Mars invented the misinformation Hwy! LOL

I run these (there are newer ones out there too.) The 2 flanking the HIGH END Burple with Cree/Oshram diodes (I got that one free for testing it)

Each is 240 watts from the wall and have full dimming capability.

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I run Cree leds for everything in my saltwater setups. So that makes sense to me

Buzzer777 · Mar 2, 2020

jagslax220 said:
I run Cree leds for everything in my saltwater setups. So that makes sense to me

BTW..The driver you see on the Mars is NOT a quality Meanwell driver, but a knockoff with a built in dimmer that hardly functions (too coarse, just like the Meanwell "A" type driver. The Kingbrites use Meanwell (real deal) and use the "B" type with a 100k pot pre attached to their external leads

jaguarlax · Mar 2, 2020

Buzzer777 said:
To add: If you want all purpose spectrums. (veg and flower) I recommend 3000k or 3500K for the spectrum.

What about adding compact florescent to get a better range? I literally have a storage unit full of shit like that

jaguarlax · Mar 2, 2020

Buzzer777 said:
BTW..The driver you see on the Mars is NOT a quality Meanwell driver, but a knockoff with a built in dimmer that hardly functions (too coarse, just like the Meanwell "a" type driver. The King brites use Meanwell (real deal) and use the "B" type with a 100k pot pre attached to their external leads

thats helpful. I see what you mean now by "misinformation hwy" lol

Buzzer777 · Mar 2, 2020

jagslax220 said:
What about adding compact florescent to get a better range? I literally have a storage unit full of shit like that

I don't think so in flower. There comes a point of no return using CFLs..although I have seen a few that were pretty nice.
Before I forget..The Mars Far reds are crappy Epistars and NOT Cree!

Again..I strongly suggest reading before spending $$ so as not to err again (I did it too, but bought Meizhis (owners of Spyder Farmer) meizhi has good CS and doesn't BS their figures.

jaguarlax · Mar 2, 2020

Buzzer777 said:
I don't think so in flower. There comes a point of no return using CFLs..although I have seen a few that were pretty nice.
Before I forget..The Mars Far reds are crappy Epistars and NOT Cree!

Again..I strongly suggest reading before spending $$ so as not to err again (I did it too, but bought Meizhis (owners of Spyder Farmer) meizhi has good CS and doesn't BS their figures.

Yea, spyder is another that I am reading on now too. I dont really consider these lights an err though, Im having success so far with the few plants I Started. So I figure I can use three 3 boxes to veg, and get a better setup for flower nbd. The issue is more of reading through all this BS and figuring out what actually works before going broke. Thankfully now I have a bit of a head start.

Buzzer777 · Mar 2, 2020

Pretty much anything works well in veg..T5 and T8's as well. When you get to flower..it's a whole different ballgame. You want 40-70 watts per sq ft with the White Lights, from the wall to flower well. I run over 70w per sq ft, but have them dimmed to avoid stress, and hopefully increase longevity..

jaguarlax · Mar 2, 2020

Buzzer777 said:
Pretty much anything works well in veg..T5 and T8's as well. When you get to flower..it's a whole different ballgame. You want 40-70 watts per sq ft with the White Lights, from the wall to flower well. I run over 70w per sq ft, but have them dimmed to avoid stress, and hopefully increase longevity..

Its taken 6 weeks to get an intelligent answer to this question. Most assume a light is just a light so its really hard to know where to start. I have 4 really nice strains that I just germinated, and more seeds on the way, there are quite a few boards like what you suggested on amazon. and I can have them here in a day or so. Thanks a million

NairnM16 · Mar 2, 2020

Use this fro flower you won’t look back

NairnM16 · Mar 2, 2020

NairnM16 · Mar 2, 2020

jagslax220 said:
in addition to the leds?

If you want more light I guess the leds offer more spectrum ontop

jaguarlax · Mar 2, 2020

Buzzer777 said:
BTW..The driver you see on the Mars is NOT a quality Meanwell driver, but a knockoff with a built in dimmer that hardly functions (too coarse, just like the Meanwell "A" type driver. The Kingbrites use Meanwell (real deal) and use the "B" type with a 100k pot pre attached to their external leads

This seems to be one of the least expensive. This is what were talking about right?
https://www.amazon.com/LM301B-Samsu...GN411KPHMN5K&refRID=HAQ7FZ4HGN411KPHMN5K&th=1

MarsHydroLED · Mar 2, 2020

jagslax220 said:
This seems to be one of the least expensive. This is what were talking about right?

Which? Mars or Buzzer's Kingbrite?

Buzzer777 · Mar 2, 2020

I don't know where Mars

jagslax220 said:
This seems to be one of the least expensive. This is what were talking about right?

https://www.amazon.com/LM301B-Samsu...GN411KPHMN5K&refRID=HAQ7FZ4HGN411KPHMN5K&th=1

I don't know where Mars sources their drivers..
But the A type Meanwell is cheaper by a few $$ than the B type with external leads. (the actual Meanwell brand)
The internal adjustments are too coarse for my liking and the range is way less than using a 100ohm pot on the external leads.
I think that I paid $2 for 5x 100k pots..or something in that range.

Buzzer777 · Mar 2, 2020

jagslax220 said:
This seems to be one of the least expensive. This is what were talking about right?

https://www.amazon.com/LM301B-Samsu...GN411KPHMN5K&refRID=HAQ7FZ4HGN411KPHMN5K&th=1

Yes..The one from your link is the Meanwell "A" type..Not to my liking at all..but still a quality driver if you won't use the dimmer too much. I have an A type Meanwell on an older HLG 288 that I never dim, so it is fine. The weak link in the Meanwells is the little cooling fan which always dies at about the time the warranty is over. No biggie, since they are easily replaceable (Ebay has a ton of them)

Edit: That is a new one on me..there doesn't appear to be any dimming adjustment that I can see. There are usually 2 screws (indented) on the meanwell A Chassis.

BrandedForLife · Mar 2, 2020

jagslax220 said:
in addition to the leds?

No. Just that light would work fine

BrandedForLife · Mar 2, 2020

Buzzer777 said:
I wouldn't buy anything Mars due to their past reputation for POOR CS..Their new lights are better, but they are not using quality components imo. Mars invented the misinformation Hwy! LOL

I run these (there are newer ones out there too.) The 2 flanking the HIGH END Burple with Cree/Oshram diodes (I got that one free for testing it)

Each is 240 watts from the wall and have full dimming capability.

Hlg Quantum Board V2 240w Lm301b With Cree 660nm Grow Light Kit For Indoor Plant Grow - Buy Hlg Quantum Board,Quantum Board V2,Lm301b 660nm Product on Alibaba.com

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