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I'm getting real close. #3 hits end of week 10 this Thursday. I'll have to check on her later today. The beasts the following week hit the end of their week 10. So the plan is chop #3 in two days? :D exciting!!!!
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I'm getting real close.
#3 hits end of week 10 this Thursday.
I'll have to check on her later today.

The beasts the following week hit the end of their week 10.
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So the plan is chop #3 in two days? :D exciting!!!!
 
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Had a crush on bo derek in high school!
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I'll allow it. :D welcome aboard mate. Hang out a while. I like your groove.
 
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So I'm running 0.9ec, is that too low?

pH dropping quickly. Went to 5.1 overnight. I brought it back to 5.9 gradually and she's heading down pretty quickly again.
 
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So the plan is chop #3 in two days? :D exciting!!!!
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I quoted your post into my bagseed hunting thread. That way I could answer you with pictures I wanted to post there.
 
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So I'm running 0.9ec, is that too low?

pH dropping quickly. Went to 5.1 overnight. I brought it back to 5.9 gradually and she's heading down pretty quickly again.
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if your ph is dropping that means your ec is to low
 
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if your ph is dropping that means your ec is to low
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I'm trying to wrap my thoughts around this. If his pH is dropping but his EC is not... wouldn't his ec drop too as they were feeding heavy? I'm trying to understand this sequence of operations and how they interact with each other. .
 
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Sorry about those toes lnao, my wife works 70 hozrs a week and i watch my schizophrenic older brother daily. I get bored and find weird shit. Hope i didnt offend or piss anyone off.
Im a ways away from harvest but this plant smells like pert shampoo dudes wtf? Lol
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Got 6-7 weeks to go!
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Thays gotta be tough on both of ya. I work 70-80 h a week right now too. I get a sweet soap smell from one of my ladies too. The toes made me throw up my breakfast, no big deal hahaha
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So I'm running 0.9ec, is that too low?

pH dropping quickly. Went to 5.1 overnight. I brought it back to 5.9 gradually and she's heading down pretty quickly again.
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In ad? So she's eating again?
 
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I'm trying to wrap my thoughts around this. If his pH is dropping but his EC is not... wouldn't his ec drop too as they were feeding heavy? I'm trying to understand this sequence of operations and how they interact with each other. .
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so the roots have there own ec
if the nutrient solution is below the root ec it forces the root ec to consume itself...which in turn drops the ph the solution ec has to be equal to or higher than root ec
this technically only happens in water culture as media culture will differ with active microbes as well as cation exchange depending on media
 
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there are other reasons as well such as pythium
along with when you are bubbling solution you are introducing CO2 into the water which transforms to carbolic acid which drops ph
 
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im home!!!! Aweeeeee...
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so the roots have there own ec
if the nutrient solution is below the root ec it forces the root ec to consume itself...which in turn drops the ph the solution ec has to be equal to or higher than root ec
this technically only happens in water culture as media culture will differ with active microbes as well as cation exchange depending on media
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root ec = what plant wants fed?
nutrient solution = my ec?
And if root ec<nutrient solution = -ph drop because
"the root ec it forces the root ec to consume itself."
Why dont we see that as a huge drop in nutrient solution ec?

Ya I'm familiar with the air stones causing flux.
 
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im home!!!! Aweeeeee...

root ec = what plant wants fed?
nutrient solution = my ec?
And if root ec<nutrient solution = -ph drop because
"the root ec it forces the root ec to consume itself."
Why dont we see that as a huge drop in nutrient solution ec?

Ya I'm familiar with the air stones causing flux.
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you wouldnt see a nutrient solution drop if the nutrient solution isnt being consumed
you see think of it as the ec of the solution is to low for the plant to detect it if it is lower then the root ec so the plant consumes itself....starting with lower leaves
ph drops as exudates fill the solution
basically plant shit along with chemicals and sugars and other compounds which drops ph as the plant consumes itself and the exudates dont hold an electrical charge so it isnt picked up on ec meter but never the less it will show on the ph balance
 
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http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1020809400075

on root exudates and ph
 
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http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1020809400075

on root exudates and ph
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This is a great link!
 
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No airstones in the Rez right now. Would be killer to get pythium in the home stretch on both plants. Oof. How should I go about raising the EC just add the mix for 2g of the same solution currently in there or throw some cal mag in?

I'm brewing up some @Capulator tea right meow. I wonder what your thoughts on adding it to the Rez are...? Or should I keep it only on the soil/Coco girls (who are now awake and in their 12/12 cycle)...

Here's a picture of AD. I'll have to scroll back to get the exact day she's at.


EDIT: finally the picture uploaded function can do multiple photos at a time. It's truly a game changer. A decade late game changer but it's here now. Rejoice!

 
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Thays gotta be tough on both of ya. I work 70-80 h a week right now too. I get a sweet soap smell from one of my ladies too. The toes made me throw up my breakfast, no big deal hahaha

In ad? So she's eating again?
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I believe she is :D
 
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http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1020809400075

on root exudates and ph
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Awesome post combo there. I'm gonna read that right now.
 
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Reading but fascinating stuff. So legumes roots have to release excess protons in an attempt to maintain EC balance with the surrounding solution and as such that's gonna drop the pH which can then cause further problems with nutrient uptake? Am I understanding this correctly?
 
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Reading but fascinating stuff. So legumes roots have to release excess protons in an attempt to maintain EC balance with the surrounding solution and as such that's gonna drop the pH which can then cause further problems with nutrient uptake? Am I understanding this correctly?
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The plant exudes stuff to interact with the micro organisms.

It is to attract the specific biology that will release the exact nutrients it needs to live.

It can alter the ph to create a more hospitable environment for those microbes.
 
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No airstones in the Rez right now. Would be killer to get pythium in the home stretch on both plants. Oof. How should I go about raising the EC just add the mix for 2g of the same solution currently in there or throw some cal mag in?

I'm brewing up some @Capulator tea right meow. I wonder what your thoughts on adding it to the Rez are...? Or should I keep it only on the soil/Coco girls (who are now awake and in their 12/12 cycle)...

Here's a picture of AD. I'll have to scroll back to get the exact day she's at.


EDIT: finally the picture uploaded function can do multiple photos at a time. It's truly a game changer. A decade late game changer but it's here now. Rejoice!

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so what day are we on right now?
it looks like you may just cut out ec all together and just run just hydroguard and maybe some sweetner at this point for this week and then just water the next
to me it looks like you are pretty close to harvest...by maybe 2 weeks
which is a good time to start "Flushing"
 
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The plant exudes stuff to interact with the micro organisms.

It is to attract the specific biology that will release the exact nutrients it needs to live.

It can alter the ph to create a more hospitable environment for those microbes.
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and a higer probability of ph drop when nutrients are unavailable
 
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