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She was way overwatered I think for a long time. I never gave her a dry period. And i also haven't fed her for a week. She's not doing well. I fed her earlier today at right around those numbers. Didn't run a ton through though. She still felt wet... What...
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She was way overwatered I think for a long time. I never gave her a dry period. And i also haven't fed her for a week. She's not doing well. I fed her earlier today at right around those numbers. Didn't run a ton through though. She still felt wet...

What do you recommend I do for the epsom salt spray? might do that now as I can't sleep?
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2tbs per 32 oz spray bottle and just get loose on them
remember to raise the lights as high as they will go and turn them down as much as possible to mimick cloudyness
then dont turn them back up until you see that most of the leaves have dried
there are some dead ones that need to probably be pulled as well...just pop them off at the stem...the girls will appreciate it
allows them to focus energy on good leaves as opposed to trying to repair bad ones
 
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I'm sure I've said it before but you're a wealth of knowledge bro. Thanks for helping me out.
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no problem...I appreciate the compliment...always here to help
 
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2tbs per 32 oz spray bottle and just get loose on them
remember to raise the lights as high as they will go and turn them down as much as possible to mimick cloudyness
then dont turn them back up until you see that most of the leaves have dried
there are some dead ones that need to probably be pulled as well...just pop them off at the stem...the girls will appreciate it
allows them to focus energy on good leaves as opposed to trying to repair bad ones
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you can also foliar with calmg...on the back of the botanicare bottle it gives you the recipe
I have never done it but the girls do look like they may like some Ca/Mg/N
 
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none of these have been dry yet
I literally water them till runoff everyday

since the nutrient debacle I have been nursing these girls back to health...all the new growth is beautiful
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She was way overwatered I think for a long time. I never gave her a dry period. And i also haven't fed her for a week. She's not doing well. I fed her earlier today at right around those numbers. Didn't run a ton through though. She still felt wet...

What do you recommend I do for the epsom salt spray? might do that now as I can't sleep?
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none of these have been dry yet
I literally water them till runoff everyday

since the nutrient debacle I have been nursing these girls back to health...all the new growth is beautiful
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I don't let my coco dry either. They're looking right again Wish!
 
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Confused as we have been talking wet:dry cycle the whole time.
 
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Confused as we have been talking wet:dry cycle the whole time.
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not for the coco plant
for the organic super soil you want a wet dry cycle
for the coco you need to feed/water every day
same as what @justiceman has stated
I was suggesting to flush good with nutrients and then let it dry some and the roots will explode into the new coco
but after that it is feed at least once a day

the sips method is good because when the nutrients are gone you refill the res
 
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Yup coco is different from soil. Wisher said it perfectly. You have to feed coco every day, and sometimes more than that when they are really exploding. The way to treat soil and coco are different for sure. Give this link a looksy

Coco Root Health Tutorial

When you feed coco at least 1x a day you pull oxygen into it which is great for the roots. When you let coco dry out the nutrients concentrate to high levels and cause pH imbalances and all kinds of phantom deficiencies. Instead when it is fed regularly the nutrients levels stay relativity similar to what you add in every time. I'm not saying it's not possible to get salt build up in coco, but when you feed it often that helps prevent salt build up more than letting it dry out.
 
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none of these have been dry yet
I literally water them till runoff everyday

since the nutrient debacle I have been nursing these girls back to health...all the new growth is beautiful
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There we go!!! Looking better!
 
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Hey @Wisher619 what the hell does leech mean and how are they doing it... Ever see this method???


of a large enough RO filter at the time. It has worked well for me. I just kept my reservoir below 1150 PPM @ .5 conversion and its all good.

One tip - do not pH down this stuff, the hard water micro will drop pH gradually over the next 24 hours, for example I mix up a batch, it is at like 6.2, the next day, its at 5.6-5.8 after running in the system for a while. If I pH downed that to 5.7 before putting it in the system, it ended up as low as 4.8-5.2 by the next day.

My conclusion, the hard water micro was buffering the alkaline crud in my water, it just doesnot do it ASAP fast like the phosphoric acid.Lothar's recipeLothar's recipe for General Hydroponics 3-part nutrient solution designed for interrupted feedings like ebb-n-flow or drip. Values are given in Millilitres per Gallon. (Nice mix of standards, eh?)

You should leach your system between the veg and the flower cycle or your plants may stretch. This is also designed for a 9 week strain so if you have a 7 week strain only go to 5 weeks then leach. Weeks 5-6 and 7 are the same anyways. Weeks 8 and 9 are plain water for clearing.


Veg



Week-----1-----2



Grow----10----12

Bloom----3-----3

Micro----5-----6





Bloom



Week-----1-----2-----3-----4-----5-----6-----7



Grow---2.5-----3-----3-----4-----4-----4-----4

Bloom---10----12----14----16----16----16----16

Micro----6-----6-----7-----8-----8-----8-----8
 
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This is really what I'm asking?????

You should leach your system between the veg and the flower cycle or your plants may stretch.
 
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Hey @Wisher619 what the hell does leech mean and how are they doing it... Ever see this method???


of a large enough RO filter at the time. It has worked well for me. I just kept my reservoir below 1150 PPM @ .5 conversion and its all good.

One tip - do not pH down this stuff, the hard water micro will drop pH gradually over the next 24 hours, for example I mix up a batch, it is at like 6.2, the next day, its at 5.6-5.8 after running in the system for a while. If I pH downed that to 5.7 before putting it in the system, it ended up as low as 4.8-5.2 by the next day.

My conclusion, the hard water micro was buffering the alkaline crud in my water, it just doesnot do it ASAP fast like the phosphoric acid.Lothar's recipeLothar's recipe for General Hydroponics 3-part nutrient solution designed for interrupted feedings like ebb-n-flow or drip. Values are given in Millilitres per Gallon. (Nice mix of standards, eh?)

You should leach your system between the veg and the flower cycle or your plants may stretch. This is also designed for a 9 week strain so if you have a 7 week strain only go to 5 weeks then leach. Weeks 5-6 and 7 are the same anyways. Weeks 8 and 9 are plain water for clearing.


Veg



Week-----1-----2



Grow----10----12

Bloom----3-----3

Micro----5-----6





Bloom



Week-----1-----2-----3-----4-----5-----6-----7



Grow---2.5-----3-----3-----4-----4-----4-----4

Bloom---10----12----14----16----16----16----16

Micro----6-----6-----7-----8-----8-----8-----8
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leach means to flush
although leach terminology would be used in soil/coco where you leach your media of all nutrients
what he meant in an undercurrent system is flush the system before changeout
 
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This is really what I'm asking?????

You should leach your system between the veg and the flower cycle or your plants may stretch.
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he might also mean to leach the roots of veg nutes when changing to flower
for me I wouldnt do that because you really dont want to disturb the rootzone
 
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he might also mean to leach the roots of veg nutes when changing to flower
for me I wouldnt do that because you really dont want to disturb the rootzone
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Ok... I see...
 
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What do you all think

these "Sexi Mexi's" look more like a NL than a Mexi Landrace sativa

leaves might change but we are already up to 6 nodes of veg
 
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@mandalaman how are the ladies doin?
 
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lookin nice
 
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I say next grow you gotta hydro 1 giant beast :cool:
 
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Well I knew this week was gonna be hard on my plants but it's been freaking really rough. Having 30 mins every morning just wasn't enough plus having to trim a #...
Anyway I'm being attacked by Lil white bugs. I'm gonna guess it's thrips. Poured about 11 ml of azamax in each single bucket.
Coco can suck a dick. With my hydro setup, never a problem! Coco non stop! Bugs! Root alfids. Fruit flies. And now this shit...
No time to baby. They will live or they wont...
 

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