[ccgwfish123]

Gals and Guys, I would like to post a few photo's, hope you all can help me figure out what is going on. Really would enjoy the whole plant lookin like the top of the plant. Thanks you all.

 

[Greenjourneyman]

Welcome Mickey Mouse,
The more info you give the better the advise we can give. From the pic you posted there it looks like you are outdoors with a few plants?
The bottomtow plants look like normal growth and plant shedding leaves pattern going on. Over time the plant will store its toxins in lower leaves they gradually turn yellow then brown and fall off.
Not sure what the first picture is, but it may be a byproduct of the outdoor environment.
my suggestion is to google some basic plant biology and botany facts about the life cycle of cannabis.
Don’t stop growing.

 

[Frankster]

Looks like to me some of your bottom leaves aren't getting a lot of light from what it looks like here. Also, I would inspect under the leaves really well and look for any signs of insects or perhaps mold spots.

I would recommend a shot of humic acid, both in the soil and even follar, but go light. I see a fair amount of stretching in the internodes, so light is a possible problem for sure.

Are they bunched up? If that's the case, can they be spread out more or are they in the gound.

 

[ccgwfish123]

I have been watering with pond water, PH is around 6. The ground is clay dug deep enough to add fox farm soil. Added Nectar One Shot granular and the plant starting shooting out beautifully. This all started with round lighter green circles to leaf structure with a solid green back ground. Slowly the leaves turn yellow and drop off. I had leaf hoppers, used oil, soap and baking soda. I guess I will watch it closely. Yes, stretched out the canopy to encourage new growth.

 

[LittleDabbie]

If your onnly source of nutrents is pond water.. I'd suggest you get some better nutrients and prolly stop using pond water, alot of that shit is not beneficial bacteria most of it lacking oxygen will not be benefical for the soil.

Clay is also a shit soil to work with how many gallons of soil did you add to the hole? May not have been enough as they look like they used up there nutrients from that already.

 

[Frankster]

Yea, I agree. Ultimately, you want a living soil, and the only way to get that is excellent oxygenation, and good drainage. at least for the "living soil" type your after.


Solar Panel Powered Water Pump Kit Garden Pool Pond Aquarium Fountain will work for getting good oxygen in your soil, even a filter would help too, but air is mandatory. You could even put these types of pumps with an aeration stone, and make a hybrid DWC anywhere.



I've got several of these solar pumps, both pumps and air stones.


But you would probably need one for each plant. If your not getting excellent drainage, then you need to oxygenate it effectively somehow, and do a hydro hybrid. Keeping your root's below 75f is a real challenge, but it's a must do under these circumstances.

It boils down to maintaining leaf pressures for the most part and fluid dynamics. That's the only way nutrients are absorbed.
If things are going wrong, (low oxygen) there's a break in the chain. Ph, temps, humidity, light, oxygen at roots, and CO2 at leaf, Osmotic concentration (ppm) all are variables in how much metabolism (energy) can be created. ie. How many molecules can be moved.

There are charts for each. As temps deteriorate, it will get worse, if you don't fix your problem.
My guess is that either oxygen or temps are out of line, and one is no longer holding the other above the threshold.
High Humidity, or excessively dry conditions on the other end (leaf end) can complicate/compound the situation even more.

 

[ccgwfish123]

Hi, we do have a bubbler actually two in the pond already. We just need to turn it on. Thank you very much.

 

[chemistry]

Have you tried a splash of Calmag?

 

[Frankster]

Hi, we do have a bubbler actually two in the pond already. We just need to turn it on. Thank you very much.

I think your on the right track here, and do what you can to keep those roots cool. I don't know where you located, but it looks hot, so anything that keeps them cool and well oxygenated. If you've got a pump going to that area, and they are in a really wet area, you could even cover up the bases, (tarp or whatever) if enough oxygen is still getting into the area, and it would help keep them cooler.

Transpiration is the real driver of plant metabolism, so anything to that end is going to increase growth in a very big way. Plants are essentially natures "vacuum cleaners" and everything is moving with "negative pressure" like a straw, drawing water from the roots into the leaf mesophyll allowing photosynthesis, via evaporation of water though the leaf membrane. ie. cooler down below, warmer up above. (I encourage you to read the sticky about transpiration, it's a very good read).

Rain forest actually produce "rain" this way. A single column in a tree can create suctions of 16x atmosphere, that's a lot of energy dynamics. adhesion and cohesion are powerful chemical forces and water is a very amazing molecule,

Trees in the Amazon make their own rain

Scientists uncover why it starts raining in the region several months before it should

www.sciencemag.org

Water is a molecule of fairly negligible mass: 18.01⋅g⋅mol−1. This is less than ammonia, or dioxygen, or dinitrogen, a little more than methane, but still less than ethane, and propane. (yet it's liquid at room tempature) And yet all these other molecules are GASES at room temperature, and have normal boiling points below that of water.

We know, or should know, that as atoms, and molecules get bigger, there should be a greater degree of dispersion forces that operate between particles, yet it seems that the boiling point of water is anomalously high. And so in fact it is.

The difference between water and these other molecules that another intermolecular force operates, and that is hydrogen bonding. Oxygen is electronegative with respect to hydrogen, and tends to polarize electron density towards itself. The result is that we may represent the water molecule as +δH−δ−O−Hδ+, i.e. as a dipole in which charge is strongly separated.

Given the strength of this dipole, and the small size of the water molecule, this interaction between the dipoles of adjacent molecules acts as a potent intermolecular force, it's the very life force of everything on the planet.

 

[Habosabin]

Are you over watering? How often do you water?

 

[ccgwfish123]

Thank you guys I learn so much here, and you all encourage me from not giving up. I do not over water, if anything I under water. I have come to the conclusion it is a PH problem. I have tested the soil from one plant to the plant to it's direct side. The plant showing great growth was planted in Nectar of Gods soil, dug in a huge soil. The plant with issues a smaller hole in clay and mixture of soil organics. I watered both with PH water and pond. Being different strains, one was just a tad but touchier I think. I am going to carry with just PH water and see if I see an improvement. I added One shot by Nectar of the Gods a week ago and the plant showed major top growth. I may have a nute lock out. Friends took a look and said they look great. In my mind if I do not see perfection in the plant I get spooked because I have never finished a grow. Wanting to have a grow for my kids means everything to me Learning as much as I can helps with the Oh No's, I have enjoyed this grow outside, huge benefit, so much promise.
I might just add, don't you all just love the smell of weed. You got to love it. Thank you from my heart and soul guys your the sunshine of my day.