MIMedGrower said:

The med dispensaries here were so bad i would never even bother with a rec shop.

Cut early. Best buds already gone to the owner or black market. Even sifted or even blasted first before sold as top shelf medical.

I grow because west michigan dispensary and black market weed sucked. Didnt have this problem before legal in colorado. But according to friends there the store weed sucks pretty bad.

No one should have settled for regulated weed.

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MIMedGrower said:

I think its because the great growers with experience would never pay fees and taxes or have inspectors come in their space. So we get more average hobbiests with day jobs and credit opening the stores.

They get over there head right away.

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canothink5 said:

taken last night
local BM weed

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HiDaze said:

Any idea toward genetics? Indica / Sativa? Your thoughts?

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HiDaze said:

Alright. Some of us live in states that decided to legalize recreational marijuana. Some states have rec laws which are better than others.

Let's take all of the legal mumbo jumbo out of the equation. I want quality buds wherever I buy. Some local "shops" near me have buds completely covered in mold. So badly, I took a small black light into a few "problem" shops and waited til the owner was in front of me. They spouted, "the flower passed our standard testing requirements for resale".

A. That's a load of sh*t
B. How much mold is legal?
C. Under a scope - most the weed I find has trichs which are CLEAR. Not cloudy, absolutely NOT amber. Clear.

So now, I am curious. If you have a jeweler's loop or a proper scope and buy ANY flower from a local REC (no med states please) shop and come across anything which has not matured to the standard harvesting (x%cloudy shown vs x% amber trichs etc) levels OR have found mold within your states, "standard testing requirements"...

I would like to see it. Slap that B under a scope and show me what you find. Let it be known, the problem in the group are not my only focus. Let me see the successes as well.

Pures, Hyrbrids and whatever the hell a recreational shop calls it - let's see it.

As a sidebar - this post comes from a severe level of disappointment from my states, "standards". Granted - YES you can harvest plants before they are mature.

Premature cultivation results in a huge variance of effects. Most strains I see come with completely clear trichs (indica dom).

I understand it's a business and they need to manage their space with a fresh flow of product. Imagine being new to this scene or worse yet a seasoned veteran who dropped out years ago because it wasnt worth the risk to grow.

You walk into a rec shop and some kid is spouting X, Y, and Z about this herb or another and in reality its harvested prematurely or is covered in mold.

Now imagine the number of folks who dont have a God damn clue about weed and what they inhale?

Rant over. Pictures below show "Gelato". An indica dominant strain which has completely clear crystals.

My pics were through a x60k jewlers loop. I am sure they dont show what my eye to the scope can but, trust me. This was harvested for profit and not for quality. Huge thumbs down.

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Restore my faith in some states rec laws or contribute to my disappointment. Just be honest and share what you find ✌

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Beachwalker said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they shake the bud and make the kief, edibles or whatever they're making from it and then they sell it after they shake it, GYO!

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Beachwalker said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they shake the bud and make the kief, edibles or whatever they're making from it and then they sell it after they shake it, GYO!

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MIMedGrower said:

Thats what some did. It happens. Out west they do that and broker the stripped buds to eastern black markets.

Double the profit.

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Terpz719 said:

I worked for a couple of years as a production floater at a midsized vertically integrated cannabis company in CO. They have seven dispensaries, four grows, and a concentrate company. I worked in flower packaging, wholesale, the joint room, and occasionally helped with harvests. To their credit, everything was hand trimmed by their own trim team, that traveled from grow to grow on harvest days. Harvests were on a pretty tight time schedule - chop, wet trim, hang, then on to the next grow. About a week later they were back for the dry trim - rinse and repeat. In our case, an entire flower room was not harvested at once.

I can only speak to what I did and witnessed at that company. I have friends with other companies, and I hear it's very similar. So to specifically address some of your questions, everything that was scheduled to be chopped on a certain day was regardless of what the trichomes looked like. Every harvest included multiple strains that were all over the map in terms of ripeness. It's a big business, with a ton of moving parts, lots of logistics, and lots of money at stake. It is just the way it is. Before I worked in the industry, I thought there were guys in lab coats going around with loupes lovingly checking each plant, but it doesn't work that way. Perhaps it does work that way in smaller boutique grows, but that isn't their business model.

LOL, @Beachwalker you're not too far from the truth. In my experience it wasn't done for greed, but for efficiency. Here is the culprit: https://budsorter.com/bud-sorter-machines/

I've run one of those sorters many times processing 80+ pounds of buds in a shift. The popcorn buds went to the joint room for grinding, and the shake went to the concentrate company for blasting. What kief did come off ended up in the air and or ended up with the shake. I can't tell you how much I hated to break down monster baseball bat sized colas for packaging, but on the plus side I got to play with monster colas all day long!

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Terpz719 said:

I worked for a couple of years as a production floater at a midsized vertically integrated cannabis company in CO. They have seven dispensaries, four grows, and a concentrate company. I worked in flower packaging, wholesale, the joint room, and occasionally helped with harvests. To their credit, everything was hand trimmed by their own trim team, that traveled from grow to grow on harvest days. Harvests were on a pretty tight time schedule - chop, wet trim, hang, then on to the next grow. About a week later they were back for the dry trim - rinse and repeat. In our case, an entire flower room was not harvested at once.

I can only speak to what I did and witnessed at that company. I have friends with other companies, and I hear it's very similar. So to specifically address some of your questions, everything that was scheduled to be chopped on a certain day was regardless of what the trichomes looked like. Every harvest included multiple strains that were all over the map in terms of ripeness. It's a big business, with a ton of moving parts, lots of logistics, and lots of money at stake. It is just the way it is. Before I worked in the industry, I thought there were guys in lab coats going around with loupes lovingly checking each plant, but it doesn't work that way. Perhaps it does work that way in smaller boutique grows, but that isn't their business model.

LOL, @Beachwalker you're not too far from the truth. In my experience it wasn't done for greed, but for efficiency. Here is the culprit: https://budsorter.com/bud-sorter-machines/

I've run one of those sorters many times processing 80+ pounds of buds in a shift. The popcorn buds went to the joint room for grinding, and the shake went to the concentrate company for blasting. What kief did come off ended up in the air and or ended up with the shake. I can't tell you how much I hated to break down monster baseball bat sized colas for packaging, but on the plus side I got to play with monster colas all day long!

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