Regular vegging vs Aggressive vegging

[Clyde4210]

This may have been answered and is of opinion per person.

When vegging what is considered regular vs aggressive?

 

[SSgrower]

In the sense of time 4 weeks is normal for most of us, I used to go 6 weeks until I wanted more than 1 harvest a year, as to lights ect. someone else can chime in. SS

 

[chemistry]

Unless I'm scrogging, which takes as long as it takes to fill the screen, then four weeks and I'm in flower.

 

[jadins_journey]

4 week veg for seeds
6 week veg for clones from the day cut
I scrog every plant but do it during their flower stretch.

jj

 

[Clyde4210]

In the sense of time 4 weeks is normal for most of us, I used to go 6 weeks until I wanted more than 1 harvest a year, as to lights ect. someone else can chime in. SS

I'm sorry I didn't mean vegging times. I was curious about is there something that determines different veg stages or is it by personal opinion?

 

[Clyde4210]

4 week veg for seeds
6 week veg for clones from the day cut
I scrog every plant but do it during their flower stretch.

jj

Is there a reason why you wait till flowering?

 

[SSgrower]

It's all about size for me, I f can get up about 2 ft. I am ready to flower and stretch another 2 ft. depends on the strain as well. Lot's of variables here to consider. SS

 

[Clyde4210]

It's all about size for me, I f can get up about 2 ft. I am ready to flower and stretch another 2 ft. depends on the strain as well. Lot's of variables here to consider. SS

Ok that makes sense and answered my other question, It would have been can I control vegging.

Thanks.

 

[jadins_journey]

Is there a reason why you wait till flowering?

Like @SSgrower said there are lots of variables. Height is my main obstacle. I don't "wait" to scrog. Training plants during the stretch period of flower helps me maintain a short plant.

jj

 

[hawkman]

aggressive veg to me is your veg time's -- veg time really starts when the plant has 3 sets of "true" fan leaves if you go by this you don't count germination stage (3-5 days) and the Seedling stage (1-2 weeks) -like to give the plant at least 1 mo in veg or if height is a issue go by " tallness" of plant 12 (6-8 inches is the least) inches is a good reference -- BUT veg time is in direct realtion to genetic's being indica or sativa genetics To be safe consider 3-4 weeks FROM seed is a norm (also growing methods also have a relation to veg time)

 

[Moe.Red]

I think it comes down to your grow method. Aggressive with RDWC and CO2 is different from soil in a window sill. To me aggressive means adding as much mass to the plant as quickly as the genetics allow. There are things we can do to optimize.

how are you growing?

 

[MIGrampaUSA]

"Aggressive" is a dangerous term. It seems to suggest that us growers are doing something to force our plants to grow faster and larger. That approach usually backfires because it gives a person the idea that they can force plant growth by over-feeding, etc.

Most of my plants are scrogged and I don't go by "weeks of veg." I go by how full are my nets. Veg time can be as long as 8 weeks in some instances. I live in a legal state that has a 12 plant limit so I tend to grow fewer plants that are larger than many growers will attempt. 4 plants switched to 12/12 at about 20"-24' will easily out produce 8 plants flowered at 12" to 16."

 

[Petrochemical]

This may have been answered and is of opinion per person.

When vegging what is considered regular vs aggressive?

Maybe considered aggressive?
Asking for a friend

 

[Petrochemical]

We may need to open that front door eh? ^^^^&

 

[growsince79]

4 plants switched to 12/12 at about 20"-24' will easily out produce 8 plants flowered at 12" to 16."

I gotta disagree. It totally depends on strain and setup. In my garden 4 plants flipped at 12" easily out produces 2 plants vegged longer. It's not even close...

 

[MIGrampaUSA]

I grow under nets. It works like a charm for me ... It does depend on setup and probably some other factors.

 

[growsince79]

I grow under nets. It works like a charm for me ... It does depend on setup and probably some other factors.

I grow in a 2 x 4 closet. I can veg 4 plants 30 days and get a pound, or I can veg 2 plants 50 days and get a pound, or I can veg 1 plant 70 days and get a pound. For me, the only thing a longer veg does is make more stems, larf, and work. I still haven't broke the 2oz/sqft barrier and I quit trying.

 

[MIGrampaUSA]

I grow in a 2 x 4 closet. I can veg 4 plants 30 days and get a pound, or I can veg 2 plants 50 days and get a pound, or I can veg 1 plant 70 days and get a pound. For me, the only thing a longer veg does is make more stems, larf, and work. I still haven't broke the 2oz/sqft barrier and I quit trying.

Big difference there.

I have a lot more space to utilize and am not concerned about how many crops I can cycle in a years time. I have more than enough buds to wait for harvest. However, since you broke it down that way, I see your point. I'm speaking per plant yield where you're talking about what your space can yield given different plant counts and veg time.

 

[Clyde4210]

I think it comes down to your grow method. Aggressive with RDWC and CO2 is different from soil in a window sill. To me aggressive means adding as much mass to the plant as quickly as the genetics allow. There are things we can do to optimize.

how are you growing?

I'm doing drain to waste hydro using hydroton. I mean aggressive as in a lot of leaves vs what I have now but it is a lot.

I'm asking because I believe I have 5 main colas and I think that's aggressive growth. No I have done nothing to the plant but dial in lights.

 

[Clyde4210]

"Aggressive" is a dangerous term. It seems to suggest that us growers are doing something to force our plants to grow faster and larger. That approach usually backfires because it gives a person the idea that they can force plant growth by over-feeding, etc.

Most of my plants are scrogged and I don't go by "weeks of veg." I go by how full are my nets. Veg time can be as long as 8 weeks in some instances. I live in a legal state that has a 12 plant limit so I tend to grow fewer plants that are larger than many growers will attempt. 4 plants switched to 12/12 at about 20"-24' will easily out produce 8 plants flowered at 12" to 16."

When I said aggressive I meant it's full on veg with lots of leaves vs one starting to veg. It say aggressive on the bottle. I believe I have 5 main colas so I'm trying to figure out if I switch up to a 321 schedule now or wait.