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This is, in my best semi educated opinion, damage due to a severe lack of cal/mag in my spring water. Runs as low as 11 ppm at the faucet. I bumped up the cal/mag right away and have no new issues as of yet but am wondering if I should remove these big old fan leaves that are showing the effects late in their growth.
 
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I leave mine, let the plant use them up at least 50% before I take them off; some people might feel differently? Good luck!
 
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I would remove the top 2, not because they are sligtly damaged but bcuz of light penetration, your plant will love it.
Also removen the leaf thats on the last pic
 
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I know defoil is a touchy subject and I can see logic on both sides. I haven’t removed anything yet, the plants are thirty days old. I love dwc you can almost see the plants growin. Will be goin in with the snippers and clearin out the old stuff. This one really has been reachin for the lights which are two mars600s runnin pretty low at 14 inches this mornin.
 
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I know defoil is a touchy subject and I can see logic on both sides. I haven’t removed anything yet, the plants are thirty days old. I love dwc you can almost see the plants growin. Will be goin in with the snippers and clearin out the old stuff. This one really has been reachin for the lights which are two mars600s runnin pretty low at 14 inches this mornin.
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I wouldn't call this a defoliation I think that's different, these are damaged leaves. My point is you can remove them or not without a great deal of difference at this point but why not let the plant take what it needs from them first
 
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Yeah defoliation is only touchy for those who dont have any expirence with it. I defoliated these 3 plants heavily 4 times during their 8 week veg, also in dwc, waiting now for next week when they will have flowerd 3 weeks to defoliate the shit out of them one last time. Maybe one more defoliation week 6 we see.
 
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Yeah defoliation is only touchy for those who dont have any expirence with it. I defoliated these 3 plants heavily 4 times during their 8 week veg, also in dwc, waiting now for next week when they will have flowerd 3 weeks to defoliate the shit out of them one last time. Maybe one more defoliation week 6 we see.
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same way about 5th week in i give um a cut
 
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Lilolme said:
This is, in my best semi educated opinion, damage due to a severe lack of cal/mag in my spring water. Runs as low as 11 ppm at the faucet. I bumped up the cal/mag right away and have no new issues as of yet but am wondering if I should remove these big old fan leaves that are showing the effects late in their growth. View attachment 930335View attachment 930336View attachment 930337
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Looks like too much nutes. Leaves too dark green. Starting to lock out mag. Thats my opinion anyway. I would lower ec maybe run some fresh water through first.
 
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Runnin 630 ppm this am, have been bumpin it up gradually from the start but have been at the high end of the recommended dosage of cal/mag since the leaf spot issues. Haven’t had any tip burn. This nute batch is only 3 days old but I can easily mix another or pump some out and dilute with straight water. They haven’t been showin the light lime green on the new growth. Bear in mind my pics are taken through the lens of my led glasses so true color is not represented very well. Thanks all for the input.
 
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This was the girls 3 weeks and 3 days ago I should probly back off on the nutes, gonna pump out half and top off with water, today was 5.8 ph at the faucet gonna bump that up to 6.0. 300-400 ppm is my goal.
 
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Lowering the ppm helped a lot, 330 this mornin growth is less dark green and the leaf clawing is improving. Still tryin to figure out how to address my very low ppm spring water in regards to my nute strength. I am using gh trio with cal/mag supplement and sm-90 for the roots.
 
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If your water has very low ppm add cal/mag to get the ppm to 150 -200 ppm then add ferts to the desired ppm. Good luck with your grow
 
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Read on water alkalinity
 
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If your water has very low ppm add cal/mag to get the ppm to 150 -200 ppm then add ferts to the desired ppm. Good luck with your grow
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Thanks, I saw that in some reading also, nobody has seemed to understand or believe that I have such low ppm at my faucet. This is the first time I am learning about how to adjust for it! Even after spending a considerable amount of time on another grow site(420 magazine). The good part is absolutely zero chemicals in my water. Thanks again
 
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The advise has been tremendously helpful, it really amazes me how fast they grow when things are goin good. I have to do something about the little runt, I’m gonna build a bucket dwc and try to get it moved into it and under its own lights
 
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Ur plant looks good and ur welcome. small things make the big differences when growing herb I've found over the years and there is no better way to learn than read and put into practice what u've learned that will apply to ur specific method for growing. Lots of great growers on this site to draw help and info from. I go on most growing sites daily but this is the best imo
 
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Ur plant looks good and ur welcome. small things make the big differences when growing herb I've found over the years and there is no better way to learn than read and put into practice what u've learned that will apply to ur specific method for growing. Lots of great growers on this site to draw help and info from. I go on most growing sites daily but this is the best imo
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I kinda like the challenges, take an all but dead twig and grow it into a monster. Find out whats wrong and make it right quickly. Build a grow from basic household stuff. Keeps my mind active. Get a little interaction with like minded people. Love it
 
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Always good to keep ur mind busy i know all about that. And maybe ease up on ferts a little u have leaf tip curling slightly in one pic it can be signs of too much nitrogen
 
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Backin off the strength the res was 180 ppm this am and will need a couple gallons, I topped it off yesterday she is really gulpin it up now. The air pump for the bucket is supposed to be here today. I bought a vivohome Big ol 6 outlet pump that is louder than a lawnmower so thats goin back. A hygger 10 watt pump is on the way. I have to flip soon its gettin big, soon as I get the runt out gonna start to lst the branches although the weight is doin that fairly well already.
 
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Lilolme said:
This is, in my best semi educated opinion, damage due to a severe lack of cal/mag in my spring water. Runs as low as 11 ppm at the faucet. I bumped up the cal/mag right away and have no new issues as of yet but am wondering if I should remove these big old fan leaves that are showing the effects late in their growth. View attachment 930335View attachment 930336View attachment 930337
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If it's straight up fugly just snip it. A little brown, keep it. I for one don't like peeking in my tent and seeing that one or two bright yellow leaves with residual scarring.

Then again if it's not too bad I'll just let it stay the plant will eventually use it.

Only defol bottom of plant that not getting much if any light.
 
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