• Home
  • Forums
  • Medical Cannabis Cultivation
  • General Indoor Growing
  • Removing Chloramines

Removing Chloramines

  • Thread starter Thread starter Jafo
  • Start date Start date Jul 14, 2009
  • Tagged users Tagged users None

Removing Chloramines

Jafo Jul 14, 2009 40 Replies 13,867 Views
Page 1 of 3 · Replies 1–20 of 41
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Next
1 of 3 Next Last
J

Jafo

Posts
13
Joined
Jul 10, 2009
Jul 14, 2009
#1
Recently looked into whether my water contains chloramines or not, looks like there has been chloramines in the local water for a few years.
One thing I read about cheaply removing them suggested that boiling a kettle removes about 30% of the chloramines, while boiling water continiously for about 20 minutes removes nearly all of the chloramines.
Anybody know how accurate this info is?
 
Quote Reply
I

ismokepot

Guest
Jul 14, 2009
#2
If that's related to Chlorine- it's a gas which will evaporate out of the water over night...... jsut let it sit with no lid.
 
Quote Reply
S

SkyHi

Posts
764
Reactions
5
Joined
Mar 19, 2009
Points
18
Jul 14, 2009
#3
Cloramines do not evaporate, go to local pet shop get aquarium de chlorimine stuff
 
Quote Reply
I

ismokepot

Guest
Jul 14, 2009
#4
Just use an R.O. device and eliminate all these types of issues.....
 
Quote Reply
Z

zoeronerer

Posts
716
Reactions
24
Joined
May 18, 2009
Points
18
Jul 14, 2009
#5
most nutrient systems are designed for water with a high mineral content.....i generally use powdered sea chem it is the cheapest on the market for aquarium products....
 
Quote Reply
H

highroller

Supporter
Premium Member
Posts
395
Reactions
5
Joined
Nov 4, 2008
Points
16
Jul 14, 2009
#6
I was just talking about this with Jack Baybeh...here's a filter that will remove the chloramines. Also has a breakdown on what chloramine actually is for those that don't know.

http://www.home-water-purifiers-and-filters.com/WH-Chloramine-water-filter.php
 
Quote Reply
J

Jafo

Posts
13
Joined
Jul 10, 2009
Jul 14, 2009
#7
Cheers.
I had hoped I could be a cheap skate and get away with boiling water...a suitable scale for my mother plants, cuttings and early veggers...but when I get round to flowering I will need a larger scale production of cleaner water.
Getting sick of showering in water that smells like bleach.
 
Quote Reply
J

Jalisco Kid

Guest
Jul 14, 2009
#8
That's the reason I bought my merlin, I preferred to mix my tap but now I just buy a better micro. JK
 
Quote Reply

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty
Posts
5,290
Reactions
19,039
Joined
Nov 22, 2008
Points
313
Jul 14, 2009
#9
Hey Jafo, I can highly recommend the Hydrologic Tall boy or you can just go to your regular plumbing store and they have numerous water filters that can be used in many applications for a fraction of the hydrostores....
 
Quote Reply
J

Jafo

Posts
13
Joined
Jul 10, 2009
Jul 15, 2009
#10
Yeah, baba G, found in the past that a lot of high street shops have a lot of equipment that can be used for growing for a fraction of the cost of hydro shops. Just need to keep your eyes open.
Thanks to everyone for the feedback, cheers buds.
 
Quote Reply

outwest

Supporter
Premium Gardener
Posts
4,629
Reactions
10,152
Joined
Dec 10, 2011
Points
263
Apr 5, 2012
#11
Here are some affordable solutions. I like the hose filter, they make a double and if you use the pentek filter, it will remove chloramines.

http://www.purewaterproducts.com/gardenhosefilters.htm

outwest
 
Reactions: Alkhemit and mal
Quote Reply

BlueBlood

Posts
52
Reactions
33
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Points
8
Apr 5, 2012
#12
If you neutralize the PH, and then add maybe a capful of regular (unscented) bleach to 5 gallons, it will release the ammonia component into gas and then the chlorine will evaporate afterwards just the same as it normally would.

:)
 
Quote Reply

Chobble

Posts
789
Reactions
842
Joined
Mar 18, 2012
Points
93
Apr 5, 2012
#13
Chloromine can easily be removed via bubling. Get an aquarium bubbler or use your tea bubbler over night.
 
Quote Reply

GreenSpoon

Posts
132
Reactions
24
Joined
Aug 1, 2011
Points
18
Apr 5, 2012
#14
a ganjapharmer told me that 1/4 tbls of Hir Brix Molasses will eliminate chloromine and chlorine in water just add it first and let it settle for a bit

can i leave a link to a little bit more info on this or are hot links a no no?
 
Reactions: Alkhemit
Quote Reply

BlueBlood

Posts
52
Reactions
33
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Points
8
Apr 5, 2012
#15
Chloromine can easily be removed via bubling. Get an aquarium bubbler or use your tea bubbler over night.
Click to expand...
That works for chlorine, I don't think that will work for chloromine. Chloromine is more stable than chlorine. /2cents
 
Reactions: ttystikk
Quote Reply

outwest

Supporter
Premium Gardener
Posts
4,629
Reactions
10,152
Joined
Dec 10, 2011
Points
263
Apr 5, 2012
#16
GreenSpoon said:
a ganjapharmer told me that 1/4 tbls of Hir Brix Molasses will eliminate chloromine and chlorine in water just add it first and let it settle for a bit

can i leave a link to a little bit more info on this or are hot links a no no?
Click to expand...

I think as long as it's not spam or an image link you're fine.

outwest
 
Quote Reply

GreenSpoon

Posts
132
Reactions
24
Joined
Aug 1, 2011
Points
18
Apr 5, 2012
#17
http://bubbleponics.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-7373.html

here is a discussion on why it works or why this guy thinks it works . . .i use it and dont notice any issues with both my canna coco line in coco and bio bizz line in HP promix / RO707
 
Reactions: BlueBlood
Quote Reply

BlueBlood

Posts
52
Reactions
33
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Points
8
Apr 5, 2012
#18
GreenSpoon said:
http://bubbleponics.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-7373.html

here is a discussion on why it works or why this guy thinks it works . . .i use it and dont notice any issues with both my canna coco line in coco and bio bizz line in HP promix / RO707
Click to expand...

This is good too if you have mycorrhizae and bacteria going :)

Just to bring it over...
"1/ ascorbic acid for chloramines or chlorine; 3 grams in 100 gallons will
treat up to 3PPM.

2/ I found your chlorine test interesting and decided to do the same to
put my arguement that reducing sugars in the molasses would handle the
chlorine and chloramine.

Using a similar test strip that tests for both free and total
chlorine, I found my city water to have 0.5ppm free and 1.5 ppm of
free and total chlorine,respectively. Testing 1 gal and 5 gal of city
water, I added 1/4 teaspoon of molasses to each. The reaction was not
instantaneous but the kinetics were faster than I would have guessed.
The one gallon reaction showed no dectable chlorine of either type
withing 3 minutes. At 5 gallons, I obtained the same result within 20
minutes.

Chlorine levels are regulated a 4 ppm maximum
4 ppm = 4mg/l
Chloramine concentrations are expressed as chlorine equivalents, so one uses the molecular weight of chlorine for calculations.
One molecule of reducing sugar will react with one molecule of chlorine.
Therefore, on a weight basis, one needs 4mg/l *(the molecular weight of the reducing sugar/the molecular weight of chlorine)/ (the decimal fraction of reducing sugar in your molasses)
I’ve seen numbers ranging from 15% to 50% for the percent reducing sugar in molasses
The reducing sugars are going to be a mixture of mono and disaccharides. Molecular weights = 180 and 342, respectively
Chlorine molecular weight =70
Therefore, worst case, one needs 4*(342/70)/.15 =130mg/L molasses
I saw a recipe by Elaine that calls for 1 oz molasses in 5 gallons. That’s 1 part in 640 or 1563 ppm .
So, worse case you have a 12 fold excess.

Run these same numbers for pure glucose (a reducing monosaccharide) and you end up needing 10ppm glucose. When i need dilution water for spraying, I use a 20-30 ppm glucose and let it sit overnight.

I continue to be perplexed by the amount of hand wringing that
goes on over chlorine and chloramine. These both function as
oxidizing agents and, as such, are destroyed by reducing agents.

Cane molasses runs at 15-20% reducing sugar.
Regulations allow a maximum of 4ppm chlorine, expressed as Cl2.
Allowing for the molecular weight difference between Cl2 the
reducing sugars in molasses, you would need 10ppm reducing sugar to
react with the chlorine.
At 15% reducing sugar, you need 66ppm molasses.

I put my molasses in first, give it some time to react and don't
worry."
Click to expand...
 
Reactions: Alkhemit, ttystikk and Chobble
Quote Reply

ttystikk

Posts
6,891
Reactions
8,392
Joined
Jan 4, 2011
Points
313
Apr 5, 2012
#19
so to steal a movie line, 'a spoonful of sugar helps the chloramines go down', or in this case 1/8g of sugar gets rid of chloramines.

It's posted that ascorbic acid gets rid of chloramines, does the closely related citric acid also have the same effect? If so, then my pH down powder with citric acid will do it for me, correct?
 
Quote Reply

BlueBlood

Posts
52
Reactions
33
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Points
8
Apr 5, 2012
#20
Yep. Now that I think about it, I reckon even the nutrients should take care of it well enough.
 
Quote Reply
Page 1 of 3 · Replies 1–20 of 41
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Next
1 of 3 Next Last

Thread info

Replies 40
Views 13,867
Started Jul 14, 2009
Latest post Apr 27, 2012
Starter Jafo
Forum General Indoor Growing

Latest posts

  • 420Captain first grow. How are they doing ?
    • Latest: 420Captain
    • 25 minutes ago
    Grow Diaries
  • D
    Hey everyone, long time grower from Brazil
    • Latest: deividyz
    • 26 minutes ago
    Introduce Yourself
  • SHOW US WHAT YOUR BREEDING!
    • Latest: Afterburner
    • 34 minutes ago
    The Breeders Lab
  • Wtf is happening...please help!
    • Latest: Afterburner
    • 39 minutes ago
    Cannabis Infirmary
  • D
    Help, i thought i was over watering but not sure
    • Latest: dr.thumbgreen
    • 50 minutes ago
    Basic Growing Information
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Medical Cannabis Cultivation
  • General Indoor Growing
  • Removing Chloramines
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2026 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Sign up

  • Home
  • News
  • Forums
    • What's new Featured content New posts New Articles New articles New products Latest activity
  • Social
  • Strains
  • Live
  • Learn
  • Brands
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?