MediMary said:

I was just conveying what H & G had told me(both H & G here and over in europe). Multiple people told me it contained benies...

TheBioMaster was the guy saying that it didn't contain any benies...

After biomaster stated that, I hit up Rob at H & G and he continued to tell me there was benies in there..


MY email to him...
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hey brother quick question,

I was on a forum this morning,

There was a conversation that went something like this....


"I understand the difference between bacteria and hormonal, Roots excel is a beneficial bacteria (at least from my understanding)
Its advertised as a beneficial too. Call H & G and talk to rob if you are unsure."

The person responded

"I did, I got the info from Rob. They are not allowed to import H&G's bacteria product (bacto force is what it is called) into the USA which is why they recomend using great white......so you can call and ask if you would like, but I already have."





So who is correct? Is roots excel a beneficial bacteria product or a hormonal product, also why do you guys recommend great white if roots excelurator is a beneficial bacteria??


Thanks brother, just trying to make sure folks are using your products properly and understand the nuances that come along with them, I wasnt sure if this guy was full it, or had actually talked to you.

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robs response back.
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Sorry for the delay getting back with you! Super busy last week and just got home.

I think "Not Allowed" is mighty strong words. Maybe I said that but I'm not sure, let me better explain.

It would take a lot of research in the states before we would be able to import the Bacto Force. That does not mean that we can't import bacterias. Look at the variety of Bacillus bacterias that we would have to deal with importing. It is much easier to just use the beneficial bacteria here in the states. We are working on getting more important H&G products here that are NOT available. The most benefit from importing Bacto Force would be to sell are own products instead of another companies. Also because it has bacteria doesn't mean it can't have natural hormones. That's like saying seaweed extracts are hormone based only when there are many beneficial Macro, Micro, Vitamins and Auxins (natural hormones) which are very beneficial to the plant.

I feel that I should quite discussing the product due to "We Can Not Advertise" what ingredients are not on the bottle. Anybody that's works for the company should keep talk like bacterias to ourselves including me.
Remember! Big Mike told everyone it was "Hormone Based". Bottom line is the recipe is a Van De Zwann family secret and no one knows whats in it. Everyone tries to reverse engineer Roots Excel but the products just don't work the same. I know it has humic acids in it due to that's how he hides the recipe.

I did have one guy say he watched it come to life under a microscope. This older gentlemen was amazed and he felt that whatever it was was in dormancy till it hit the water.

Hope all is well and things are going smoothly, Rob

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My response back...
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Thanks Rob, I understand its a bit of a tricky situation when you have folks telling others misinformation about H & G, which is read by thousands of people.

Obviously both of us want to correct them, but due to the labeling issues its a very tricky situation to a definitive statement about the product due to labeling issues, thats a tough situation for sure.

Thanks for helping me out with the clarification, due to the content of your email, its probably better if I don't post the info online as I wouldn't want to cause you any problems. But I would like folks to use your products properly when paying for them and that was the intention of my email.


best wishes my friend..
thanks for everything

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Robs response back, he asked me not to post this... but at this point I don't give a fuck... H & G needs to get their shit straight....
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Don't post this but I had RE put under Beneficial Biologics microscope. The Beneficial Biologics company had to complement our scientist on the LIFE that was in RE. I saw it come to life with my own eyes, case solved.

Peace, Rob
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