bongobongo
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Hehe ken :) we all look back and are like "omg how could I have not known". Not it's engrained in our head ;)
yeah, me too brotha!Yelp, It just dawned on me.:banghead: I should have known something was wrong when the plants started flowering mid july :meh:
Thanks Again!Just got some data that white flies are broad/Russet mite carriers, meaning they hitch rides on white flies, Its all about preventive and changing it up on these batards.
I cant find anything about it either wayI recall Met52 ec contains oils and was not to be used with a sticker spreader. But do not take my work for it. Please check the instructions to be safe.
That is good info. I had a lot of leaves turn yellow/burn after spraying met52 and this could be why. I am not concerned with dying fan leaves all that much, more esthetics than anything, but I will remember this for the future!I have done 2 applications of the Nuke Em. Fingers crossed. Also took some pics of the damaged plants and am working on resizing them. Will post them soon. Also read on the Nuke Em web site that you should wash off other treatments before spraying the Nuke Em. From their site:
"Flying Skull realizes that many growers literally face total crop failure because the products on the market are not getting the job done. Nuke em users have been writing us saying that they have rinsed prior insecticides off their plants with water, let them dry, then sprayed Nuke em onto one plant. The growers then waited 24 to 48 hours to look for any toxicity issues. If everything looked good, they sprayed the rest of the plants. The majority of growers said they experienced no acute toxicity issues if they rinsed the plants leaves and stems with water, let the leaves dry, then applied Nuke em.
If at all possible, Flying Skull recommends not spraying Nuke em over top of Pyrethrins or Sulfur to avoid any toxicity issues for inexperienced growers."
Morning brother..yeah,Have you considered giving some breaks between sprays ken? With all these dif products its my feeling a few water only days would help keep the ladies looking more healthy.not that they look bad now, but all these oils and such can actually suffocate them to a degree.just thinking out loud bro, they have been through alot these last few weeks lol.when I have had to use azamax I always gave 5 to 7 days between apps and it did its job on
Sp mites.i know these are different, so just thinking out loud.peace
I ended up only spraying met52 the two times last week. I planned on soil drenching it but before I did I scoped, and scoped, and scoped again and could not find any mites at all so I didn't drench it. It was too costly to use if the inoculation from the spray worked.Morning brother..yeah,
..as a matter of fact I didnt spray anything this morning..I needed a break
But i did some pruning instead. :)
I have been giving them breaks in between sprays and washing them in between also.
Let me find and up date what and when i have sprayed so far ;)
Edit; opps, :p yeah, the breaks were the caps bennies and sea green...lol
I was under the impression that in the soil it inoculates the plant, just slower than the leaf contact will...I have been reading non stop any article and study on any mite and mite treatment I can find so I could likely be confused on that...:shifty:Glad to hear it @SunGrown ! :)
I should look under the scope again..
.but Im going to keep on spaying either way..so., I figure ..why bother?:p
..lol..but that just me....
The Met works on contact only...so if you put it in the soil it only kills bugs in the soil..right?
I think they had time to workI guess if your always rinsing them off you will be good but then your rinsing off the treatments as well.
I ended up only spraying met52 the two times last week. I planned on soil drenching it but before I did I scoped, and scoped, and scoped again and could not find any mites at all so I didn't drench it. It was too costly to use if the inoculation from the spray worked.
I am still scoping daily but I will say 99.9% sure they are all gone. I can not even find eggs now.
I am going to keep scoping daily but I do think those two sprays a couple days apart took care of them. I did spray takedown right before the met but I was already regularly spraying takedown and I think they were immune to it. I am sure the met is what solved the problem for me.
Good report. I would say don't count it out yet, it is highly recommended by knowledgeable folks out there. But yes, not advertised as a russet killer...they are little soft bodied things, so I would assume it will work though.That's encouraging! So far, I have done 2 treatments of the Nuke Em. Just got in from morning inspections. I wish I could say my results are as good as yours with the Met52. I scoped several samples and saw quite a bit of activity still. I know the samples were hit twice as I noted the areas and am positive they were drenched so it can't be that the samples were simply missed. At $140 per gallon, I don't think this will be a keeper in my arsenal. The site says you should do 3 applications in close succession but you should see improvement immediately. In their defense however, I saw nothing on the site nor in the reviews that listed it as treatment for russets. Most of the info is on spider mites and broad mites. I will use up the rest of this gallon for a third treatment and then will start using the Ogbiowar.
I did see my minute pirate bugs still eating the russets. No way they can survive being eaten! Just need a LOT more to get control. Was glad to see that the Nuke Em did not kill the pirates at least.
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